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"Craptoss Shites" is good
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# ¿ Dec 7, 2016 16:55 |
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wicka posted:Ugh I hate Tilke's long straights Tilke straights lead into sharp braking areas and hairpins, not Signes
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# ¿ Dec 11, 2016 01:11 |
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wicka posted:I just don't care. Too often this thread is nothing but complaints about the obvious and inevitable. Take the L and move on
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# ¿ Dec 11, 2016 01:46 |
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I legitimately think the late 90s F1 field was secretly terrible (what if Wendlinger had turned out different, what if Johnny Herbert hadn't gimped his legs, etc etc) but Schumi's accomplishments in his early career at Benetton clearly show his talent level
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# ¿ Dec 14, 2016 18:08 |
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I've said it before too, but Villeneuve is really lucky Schumacher tried to wreck him like a dipshit at Jerez '97, because without that, everyone talks about how Schumacher nearly beat Villeneuve with a far shittier car
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# ¿ Dec 14, 2016 18:09 |
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Theophany posted:Go on then, off-season question: who do you consider the best F1 driver of all time and who do you consider the best racing driver of all time, regardless of discipline? Niki Lauda and Freddie Spencer. If bike racers are not allowed, then Niki Lauda and Mario Andretti.
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# ¿ Dec 14, 2016 18:10 |
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Baron Corbyn posted:The greatest what if is how many times a race weekend Eddie Jordan would bring up Frentzen winning the championship in a Jordan had he managed it in 99. HHF was the Alain Post Driver Of The Year in 1999. Ralf Schumacher was 2nd.
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# ¿ Dec 14, 2016 18:17 |
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Looking for talent in the mid-90s leads down dark roads like "what if Karl Wendlinger hadn't nearly died" and "Olivier Panis was kinda good before his injury right"
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# ¿ Dec 14, 2016 18:25 |
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I like Mika but his performance in 1999 was so bizarre that I once listed it as one of the worst performances by a defending champion in F1 history despite the fact that he actually defended the title. Who the hell melts down against Eddie Irvine and HHF, seriously
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# ¿ Dec 14, 2016 18:28 |
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Mika also disgraced himself with his performance in the 1999 European GP.
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# ¿ Dec 14, 2016 19:34 |
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ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:Which was the race where Schumi was stuck in fifth gear for pretty much the entire thing and still somehow managed to get on the podium? Was it Schumi? I know it was in the late 90s/early 2000s Spain 1994.
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# ¿ Dec 14, 2016 20:08 |
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The Alain Post Analysis of Mika Hakkinen + one of the best helmet designs of all time + almost died and then came back, which was cool + 2000 is a great effort considering that Ferrari and McLaren were close to parity by then - didn't win in forever and then his first two wins were arguably gifted to him - melted down against Eddie Irvine - repeating the fact that he nearly lost a title to Eddie Irvine, who had a worse car
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# ¿ Dec 15, 2016 01:35 |
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Elio de Angelis, as a Simpson M30
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# ¿ Dec 15, 2016 01:45 |
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Wicka you can talk about the perils of nostalgia and rose colored glasses and that poo poo but if there's one thing that's undeniably poo poo about F1 these days it's the goddamn helmet designs
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# ¿ Dec 15, 2016 01:51 |
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Speaking of people who should have amounted to more,
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# ¿ Dec 15, 2016 01:54 |
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not to mention:
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# ¿ Dec 15, 2016 01:56 |
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wicka posted:My god, they are so loving bad. Even the very best current helmets - Button? Massa? I don't even know - are pretty bad compared to the best helmets all-time. My favorite from last season is probably Nico's. Note that the three drivers I've listed have all retired. Bottas has one of the best helmets on the grid and it's like, a boring middling helmet if you drop it in the 80s.
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# ¿ Dec 15, 2016 01:58 |
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You know who had a nice, memorable helmet design before it predictably became trash
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# ¿ Dec 15, 2016 03:48 |
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Minto Took posted:Alonso had a pretty rad helmet this year. this is trash this is a rad helmet
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# ¿ Dec 15, 2016 05:04 |
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Die bitch
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# ¿ Dec 15, 2016 16:59 |
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Mika's "meltdown" was unforced crashes out of the lead at Imola and Monza '99, but the big one that pisses me off is his performance at the Nurburgring, where he loses time in the first stage of the race because of bad pit strategy, cruises around out of the points for most of the race looking like he's given up, and then suddenly giving a poo poo and going faster when people start retiring and he realizes he can actually get points. Murray and Brundle poo poo all over him in the commentary box for that performance, and justifiably so.
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# ¿ Dec 15, 2016 17:50 |
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El Hefe posted:All of these "oh but if X hadn't had some DNFs then he would've been champion" are stupid because crashes, engine blow ups, hosed up pit stops and everything else are all part of racing, it's the person/team who can overcome all of that are the ones who deserve to be champion at the end of the season.
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# ¿ Dec 16, 2016 20:41 |
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I love Kimi and I still don't understand the idea that he had a particularly good year this season.
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# ¿ Dec 17, 2016 00:14 |
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*extremely calm and correct voice* Nigel Mansell was bad
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# ¿ Dec 17, 2016 01:24 |
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AgentJotun posted:Soon liberty will arrive at the correct conclusion, which is more spec parts on the cars and/or huge technical restrictions, like making aero dimensions so strict that there is essentially only one way to build a front wing or whatever. Aero r&d is such a waste of money anyway - does it actually trickle down to road cars at all? This would suck rear end and be bad
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# ¿ Dec 19, 2016 00:55 |
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AgentJotun posted:Thats the way to bring down costs. When Merc realises that the extra 200million they are paying in R&D over the smaller teams is only giving them eight tenths a lap, instead of 2 and a half seconds, they will see its a poo poo return on investment. This is hilarious because when you make the cars more and more equal, minuscule performance improvements actually become even more important, and valuable
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# ¿ Dec 19, 2016 00:56 |
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Human Grand Prix posted:Airton Dare sounds like he's lost it. He had a badass crash at Nashville
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# ¿ Dec 19, 2016 17:00 |
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I might try that. supercross is usually like Rallycross to me where it's really exciting in theory and then all the races suck rear end
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# ¿ Dec 19, 2016 17:20 |
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wicka posted:Jost Capito is on his way out at McLaren. Sounds like he was appointed to be little more than a surrogate for Ron and they don't need both him and Boullier. Toss Crapito.
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# ¿ Dec 19, 2016 17:27 |
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He's no Pastor.
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# ¿ Dec 20, 2016 03:13 |
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wicka posted:Because it's just random. It's entertaining when drivers fail on their own, not when they are the victims of poo poo entirely out of their control. Button's win in Canada, for example, wouldn't have been anywhere near as sweet if Vettel hadn't hosed up under pressure. What if Vettel's engine just lets go there? Takes all the shine off that performance. This is motorsport. Cars blowing up isn't random, it's down to how much risk the builder and drivers make. It's removing a variable from the sport.
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# ¿ Dec 20, 2016 16:55 |
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wicka posted:It's random and it's bad and I legit STILL can't understand why every god drat month we have a new conversation about how something terrible from 80s F1 is actually good and needs to be brought back. Can we just start a separate thread for F1 nostalgia? It is not random, as evidenced by the fact that some cars from some makers blew up a lot and some blew up less often.
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# ¿ Dec 20, 2016 17:15 |
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wicka posted:Not to mention the fact that increased unreliability benefits literally zero people within F1, so it's not something anyone sane would ever pursue or attempt to implement. It benefits you, the loyal viewer.
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# ¿ Dec 20, 2016 17:16 |
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Project Five?
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# ¿ Dec 20, 2016 21:54 |
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iospace posted:Nah, Massa and Lewis collide, resulting in this: Die die die
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# ¿ Dec 21, 2016 18:18 |
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iospace posted:But imagine the meltdowns if Frogboy wins Imagine if he has a fatal accident. I'm imagining it.
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# ¿ Dec 21, 2016 21:28 |
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the fact that Le Mans has basically no conventional narrative is why it's great
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# ¿ Dec 22, 2016 00:03 |
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wicka posted:Andrei Tarkovsky's Le Mans it's honestly more like Robert Altman's Le Mans
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# ¿ Dec 22, 2016 00:11 |
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it was mind games
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# ¿ Dec 22, 2016 17:35 |
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# ¿ May 13, 2024 05:43 |
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Joke team.
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# ¿ Dec 22, 2016 19:53 |