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Alain Post posted:Does this mean Michael Schumacher used to rely on Jos Verstappen and JJ Letho to set up his cars at Benetton I had a chuckle at this one.
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The FW16 was superior to the B194 by a long shot.
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Theophany posted:ETA: oh yeah, and the illegal poo poo Benneton were running. I need some proof here comrade.
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Upon further review I have concluded that the Benetton must have relied on Verstappen, Lehto, and Johnny Herbert to set up the car. That's probably why it was so difficult to drive.
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1500quidporsche posted:Incidentally if you do casually run into 1986 Osella driver Allen Berg do not ask him in a joking tone "What was it like being lapped by Prost?" he will not find it funny. Lighten up there big Al.
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Alain Post posted:*adjusts numbers* Hulk is our generation's Jarno Trulli? He's this generation's Marc Surer.
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I'm trying to figure out who had the most points finishes without a win or podium using the old top 6 system.
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Alain Post posted:It is illegal and highly risky to post things like Poois Shamilton, Sebshitstain Vesmell, Pooderia Ferrari, ShitClaren, or Nico Fraudberg in this thread. Please do not post any of those things or anything like that. I would use "Shitbastian", personally.
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simplefish posted:Does anyone here like Clive James' dry humour? Yes.
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El Hefe posted:I was watching the 1994 Japanese GP yesterday and you can't fault him for spinning out imho, it was loving drenched. Yeah Katayama spun off as well.
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Dec 8, 2016 17:19
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As did Noda, Alboreto, and several others.
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I think Noda might have been decent had he'd been given a proper shot.
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Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:Rosberg has a sense of humor? He retired after winning the Championship, forever trolling Hamilton.
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El Hefe posted:They've been showing the 1982 season here because Rosberg won I guess, and drat what a tragic season. The '82 ground effect cars finally looked "right", as opposed to weird or downright ugly.
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You Am I posted:And the ground effects on some of the cars were that crazy that some teams didn't run nose wings The ones they did run were pretty rudimentary too. The Renault's were very simple.
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The front wings? On low downforce circuits they weren't needed usually, but it depended on the car.
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Dec 9, 2016 01:04
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They are putting a chicane on the Mistral Straight at Paul Ricard : /.
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I was always of the opinion Honda should have sought a low key partner.
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1500quidporsche posted:He was great in the 80s but by the late 90s there was like a 1 in 3 chance every race that he was going to confuse a Minardi crashing out with a championship contender. He was also doing this in the 1980s.
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El Hefe posted:Jesus I'm watching Silverstone 2003 and on the grid there's Alonso but also.... Verstappen. Verstappen was atrocious that year. Thankfully it spelt the end of his career.
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Yeah these most recent turbo cars have been the most difficult to drive in quite some time. 2008 was the very end of the aero era, if anything the 2008 cars were much easier to drive.
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I can't speak for anything Pre-1980 but in the Modern Era Prost. Schumacher is obviously amazing but I believe his competition in his latter championships was simply not as strong.
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wicka posted:Prost and Andretti. I considered AJ Foyt for the latter but it's hard to go with him when he never even ran an F1 race (outside of the the 500 way back when) and Andretti is an F1 champion. Andretti's later career was much better, I think. CART Foyt was pretty lousy from what I've seen, although that might be due to equipment.
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wicka posted:I doubt many people who watched F1 during his reign will rate him that highly solely because of sour grapes and the extent to which Ferrari favored him as a #1 driver. I do. He was obviously the best until he retired.
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Dec 13, 2016 22:16
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The '96 Ferrari was even worse and he managed to put it on Pole 4 times and win 3 races. To put it in to perspective, Irvine retired like 7 or 8 times in a row.
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freeranger posted:In a world of What If's, who would have been considered the worse champion. Irvine or Massa? Irvine.
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From 1995 to 2000 there really wasn't anybody who could touch Michael on skill alone. The guy who should have been his main rival died.
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1500quidporsche posted:That Berger won a race in the twilight of his career after missing two races in a Benetton is all you need to know about the depth of skill in the late 90s field Let's throw 1996 in here as well. Old/Older dudes from the 80s golden era were still very competitive.
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The HHF thing is more surprising because it was a smallish British team with engines made in a shed in Shizuoka.
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Alain Post posted:Looking for talent in the mid-90s leads down dark roads like "what if Karl Wendlinger hadn't nearly died" and "Olivier Panis was kinda good before his injury right" JC Bouillion vanishing off the face of the earth after 1995.
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iospace posted:Ask Lewis. That's not comparable. It would be like Lewis Melting down to Ricciardo and Sergio Perez.
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You really don't see cars getting stuck in gear very much anymore.
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HHF should have amounted to more, I thought.
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I like Aguri Suzuki's.
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Bellof had a good one.
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I like the minimalist helmets of Laffite and Arnoux.
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Alain Post posted:Speaking of people who should have amounted to more, Say what you will, he was the first guy (and early Raikkonen) in a while that could match Micheal.
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Captain Cancer posted:Long time reader, never contribute; but the nostalgia about helmet designs takes me back to my misspent youth of designing car liveries and helmets, first on paper, then in GP2edit (or whatever other Grand Prix 2 editors were around in the early days). It was an obsession. Spent hours designing a new team / helmet (Marlboro or B&H usually being the title sponsor), do the first race (Interlagos) then repeat. Andrea had a great helmet.
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