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Agreed, op
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You could say that The Godfather is like a steak and The Godfather 2 is like a chicken fried steak.
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yeah there's nothing thematically in the godfather part 2 that's not already implicit in godfather part 1. it's nice to be able to call someone a "fredo," but the flashback structure feels arbitrary and unmotivated and so ends up hindering it, where godfather part 1 was long and epic but has a straightforward and powerful throughline overall coppola's worst film from the 1970s
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I like them both equally, honestly. I found Michael Corleone's slow turn from do gooder war hero to murderous mob boss as probably one of the most fascinating portrayals of a character's change in a movie ever. Also the main theme owned so hard even Slash did a cover of it : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3oi174RAiI
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Skoll posted:I found Michael Corleone's slow turn from do gooder war hero to murderous mob boss as probably one of the most fascinating portrayals of a character's change in a movie ever. yeah i loved godfather part 1
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Dec 1, 2016 21:01
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my dad agrees with you
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Dec 1, 2016 21:30
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get that OUT of my face posted:my dad agrees with you your dad is a smart man
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Dec 1, 2016 23:41
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i'm worried at some point i might actually watch "the godfather epic" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Godfather_Saga
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Greatest Living Man posted:i'm worried at some point i might actually watch "the godfather epic" It's up on HBOGo/Now if you have that. Or at least it was. I've been meaning to check it out.
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Dec 1, 2016 23:45
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I watched it but I had to break it up into like 3 chunks which kind of defeats its own purpose Would rather just watch the originals in order.
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Dec 1, 2016 23:49
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do they have the opposite of the godfather saga for out 1
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godfather part ii is a trite, overlong bore that ramps up everything in the original without ever adding anything meaningful to it. we already knew michael went to a dark, paranoid place that shut out his family by the end of the first one, we didn't need four goddamn hours of him continuing to do so with no variation well, really more like two hours because some of it is taken up with vito's backstory, which is tedious myth-building horseshit that actually gives us an origin for "an offer he can't refuse" and a lame callback to his love of oranges. everything that made vito an interesting, human character in the original was stripped out by this nonsense. it's like every awful sequel trope gathered together in a single movie and i will never ever understand the love for it
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Dec 2, 2016 00:59
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I havent watched the Godfather or the Godfather 2
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wow what a shock a poster with an anime schoolgirl avatar has lovely taste in media
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The real star of the films is that delicious looking treat Connie gives Don Altobello at the Opera House in Part III. Don't care if it is laced with strychnine, wanna take a big ol' bite out of that thing. In all fairness, I have to concede Sethsez actually makes some reasonable points on the necessity of Part II, it doesn't really add much and some of the mystique of the original is lost in the process. Still love it though, Michael owning that senator and making chumps of the Senate Committee owns, as does the stone cold way he closes the door on Kay when Connie sneaks her in to see the kids.
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Even when Godfather 2 isn't as focused or great as the first one, it doesn't mean it's utter dumpster fire kill it from orbit garbage. It's still a good movie and it's nice to watch both.
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Dec 2, 2016 12:26
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Agreed OP. I also think The Terminator is better than Terminator 2.
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In part 2, Anthony becomes more like his father to the point where Kay becomes afraid of her own child and has an abortion rather than give Michael another son. then in part 3 he's a fat opera singer
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Well What Now posted:wow what a shock a poster with an anime schoolgirl avatar has lovely taste in media Tbf, maybe he just hasnt seen in yet.
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*It.
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I don't like De Niro and those sequel parts with him are meh
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Vegetable posted:I don't like De Niro and those sequel parts with him are meh huh
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What is it the big guy says? Leave the gun, take the cannoli? That was a good line.
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Wow, some real hot takes about The Godfather II ITT, I suppose you all know better than coppola. Well wheres your winery?
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Jaws is better than Jaws 2 and Jaws 4, sorry, it had to be said. E, I have not seen godfather 2 so I won't comment
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I enjoyed the one with podracing.
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I hate olive oil. It's greasy unlike your hand, which is smooth.
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I actually just bought the Godfather restoration blu rays so I am going through the movies for the first time in maybe a decade. I am finding I really enjoyed Part 2, maybe more than Part 1. I can't really pinpoint why exactly. I thought the flashbacks to Vito were actually quite good and well done. I am going to watch Part 3 for the first time ever tonight.
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CortezFantastic posted:I actually just bought the Godfather restoration blu rays so I am going through the movies for the first time in maybe a decade. I am finding I really enjoyed Part 2, maybe more than Part 1. I can't really pinpoint why exactly. I thought the flashbacks to Vito were actually quite good and well done. Man are you gonna be disappointed.
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A White Guy posted:Man are you gonna be disappointed. uhh there was a lot going on in this movie First, cousins wanting to gently caress. Or hosed? Just really strange. You have a 30 something Andy Garcia playing a character who is supposed to be like early 20s I guess, who seduces his 16 year old cousin, despite everyone else wanting to gently caress him apparently. We have Michael who is overcome with guilt so he is just throwing money at anything, despite him being cold as ice in part 2. I felt like it was never explained why people wanted him dead. Zasa was the only one that had a reason but he was killed off pretty quickly. So it was the other dons? I guess for the power or real estate? But the family didn't seem to be active at all during the entire movie until the end, when Vincent is now the don for some reason and orders a bunch of kills. We didn't see any action from the Corleone family outside of Vincent doing deeds beforehand. Beautiful shots in this movie though.
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Yeah, it's a total mess, but it definitely has its moments. Compared to 1&2, it's a steaming pile of crap, but it's still above and beyond the quality of movie produced during its time period. I particularly like the assassination scene. An opera climaxing in an unjust execution as a horribly corrupt man of god is put down with a pen. I guess the point of 3 is to redeem Michael as a character(I mean, the plot point).
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In the vein of this thread I'm gonna say it I think Casino is better than Goodfellas.
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Can't give Godfather III too much flack considering Coppola made it mainly to clear the massive debt Zoetrope Studios had at the time.
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that death scene though https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyaDlIirJnw&t=15s
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I liked the Helicopter assassination scene. I always felt like giving loving Voyager the credit for being the first to use a helicopter assassination scene is like giving Hitler credit for improving animal rights in Germany.
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The Rain People is better than any of the Godfathers.
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A White Guy posted:I liked the Helicopter assassination scene. I always felt like giving loving Voyager the credit for being the first to use a helicopter assassination scene is like giving Hitler credit for improving animal rights in Germany. Yeah that may be the best scene in the entire trilogy, action wise at least.
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The lake house office is cooler than vito's office. they are both great offices, though. top notch.
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I just watched 1 and 2 for the first time in awhile and: agreed OP. Now what should I watch (or re-watch) for more gangster goodness? Keep in mind I'm watching GoodFellas literally right now.
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