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Kylo Ren is a great villain, not because he is great, but because it's surprisingly down to earth to have the bad guy just be a lovely rear end in a top hat with anger management problems who rebelled against his rebel parents way too hard. I love Hannibal Lector and Darth Vader as much as the next person, but I also like it when a bad guy isn't as romanticized and put on a pedestal.
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Dec 2, 2016 23:34
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I hate Kylo Ren so far. The movie pretty much only stated that reason he went to the dark side was because he had daddy issues. I thought it was silly for him to wear a mask when there was no reason for him to wear one. Makes me wonder if he did it to somewhat emulate his grand daddy Vader, which would also be dumb as hell. He struggled to beat Finn in a saber duel despite Finn not able to use the force or have experience in saber dueling. On the bright side, he is a better villain than Darth Maul, who was just a hitman. I really hope they expand better on the motivations of Kylo Ren and his master next movie.
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Dec 3, 2016 01:02
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ijii posted:He struggled to beat Finn in a saber duel despite Finn not able to use the force or have experience in saber dueling. That bugged me too, until I realized that he struggled to beat Finn after being shot in the torso by a gun that's usually instadeath. Finn probably also had a reasonable understanding of saber-like combat, as stormtroopers were trained and equipped with electric batons that could stop lightsabers. Edit: which would provide for a nice excuse to make him a more capable combatant in the next film, after he's healed.
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Dec 3, 2016 02:26
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I was surprised the new Star Wars movie was fun despite being directed by JJ Abrams
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ijii posted:Makes me wonder if he did it to somewhat emulate his grand daddy Vader, which would also be dumb as hell How can you possibly not realize this is the literal entire point of his character? Be honest, you were on your phone throughout the entire movie, weren't you?
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Dec 3, 2016 02:37
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Symbolic Butt posted:I was surprised the new Star Wars movie was fun despite being directed by JJ Abrams Why? He had already made a fun Star Wars movie in 2009 called Star Trek.
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:its not a very good movie but Philip Seymour Hoffman in Mission Impossible 3 is pretty great Yeah, though that's pretty much entirely the performance.
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Dec 3, 2016 02:40
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I really like the idea of Kylo Ren, because the main villain being an angsty little poo poo with daddy issues playacting as his famous villain grandfather could make a pretty interesting character study in the right hands. I'm just not sure the people making these films can actually do the idea justice.
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Dec 3, 2016 02:45
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Well What Now posted:I really like the idea of Kylo Ren, because the main villain being an angsty little poo poo with daddy issues playacting as his famous villain grandfather could make a pretty interesting character study in the right hands. Rian Johnson is a much better director than JJ, so I have hope for the next one. The third one is going to be poo poo, though.
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GonSmithe posted:Rian Johnson is a much better director than JJ, so I have hope for the next one. Dude hell yeah he is. I was like "wuh" when I heard the announcement and then thought about Looper again and it made perfect sense. He's a very good choice to make a new Star Wars picture.
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wizard on a water slide posted:Dude hell yeah he is. I was like "wuh" when I heard the announcement and then thought about Looper again and it made perfect sense. He's a very good choice to make a new Star Wars picture. Not to go off topic, but Looper loving owned hardcore.
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wizard on a water slide posted:Dude hell yeah he is. I was like "wuh" when I heard the announcement and then thought about Looper again and it made perfect sense. He's a very good choice to make a new Star Wars picture. the dude who did jurassic world is on the slate for the one after that tho so it's probably gonna be fuckin dire
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Dec 3, 2016 05:58
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They're just trying to accurately recreate the feel of the original trilogy. They're gonna nail it.
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Dec 3, 2016 06:04
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Interstellar guy apparently really loves his daughter but doesn't seem too concerned over his son.
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i reckon you could probably cut about an hour out of interstellar and probably not lose anything important
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Rian Johnson is a very cool nice man. I really wanted to say "Congrats on Star Wars!" but it was so fresh, I wasn't sure if it was going to pan out. So loving glad it is though.
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Larry Parrish posted:I thought Interstellar was good. It's ok for the characters to be strange with each other because none of them have any common ground until the very end when what's her name and Surfer Bro are the last two survivors from their time period theres an hour and a half of good movie in interstellar and about 45 minutes of nazi poo poo but the line about how love is quantifiable is purestrain nolan
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Nolan is sterile as poo poo, but i wouldn't say JJ Abrams has the same problems. JJ Abrams movies just play it safe and end up a flashy dazzling kind of boring for it, and the lens flare thing is a real problem. Nolan is a less quirky wes anderson auteur/autist with no feel for character but he makes interesting ideas into movies and he manages to secure pretty obscene budgets to do it with, so i'm happy enough with how it turns out usually, since he paid his dues with Batman and got lucky with heath ledger it seems like he can string producers and audiences along for whatever he wants to do so I kinda envy him to be honest.
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jurassic world was the WORST i don't think chris pratt smiled in the entire movie
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At least it was marginally better than the Dino mercenary idea that was originally pitched.
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Dec 3, 2016 20:18
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Nolan is pretty dreary, but JJA's entire shtick is to pad his work with references with little to no original ideas. TFA showed that it wasn't all Lindelof; JJA just doesn't seem to know another way to make movies. At least the first (and perhaps second) season if Alias was great.
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Dec 3, 2016 20:58
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Add Spielberg to this list of directors that are just really good chemists and mix all the right ingredients to create a successful if utterly forgettable blockbuster
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A Doomed Purloiner posted:Why? He had already made a fun Star Wars movie in 2009 called Star Trek. meh I liked Star Wars way better
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Dec 3, 2016 23:45
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Inception is like a parlor trick turned into a 2+hr movie.
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Nolan and Abrams stuff has soul, but it's def not like, really tasty soul with a medley of flavour. Like Nolan's soul is a murky glass building full of 2000s angst, and Abrams' soul is whiz-bang have-you-seen-my-father 80's nostalgia.
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idk how to dfeine soul or humanity or we in a movie but theyre pretty boring.
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DC Murderverse posted:Ironically, The Dark Knight is hilarious. People really tend to forget that Bruce Wayne almost exclusively communicates to Alfred and Lucius in gentle dad-humour, and that his relationship to Harvey Dent is largely based on spite (ruining his date with Rachel, throwing a fundraiser to highlight his own wealth). Then you have Batman Begins, where he fights literal ninjas for two hours, and the Dark Knight Rises, where the Batman '66 finale is reenacted to dramatic effect.
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Trebek posted:Add Spielberg to this list of directors that are just really good chemists and mix all the right ingredients to create a successful if utterly forgettable blockbuster I have no idea what happens in ET anymore and I seriously doubt that it is more entertaining to watch than Mac and Me. The only Spielberg movie I actively like and watched more than once is Jaws. That movie was cool to 12-year-old me and is way better now that I'm an adult. And Jurassic Park was pretty good.
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N. Senada posted:I have no idea what happens in ET anymore and I seriously doubt that it is more entertaining to watch than Mac and Me. idk man I think Indiana Jones, Schindler's List, Jurassic Park, Saving Private Ryan all hold up still I also like Minority Report and Catch Me If You Can but idk if they deserve to be on the same "classics" list
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I didn't see any Indiana Jones until the 4th movie one came out. I have since watched the first and it was fun but I don't have any nostalgia for it. I liked that Indy was an rear end in a top hat in it thou. And those other movies were enjoyable and good (Schindler's List being probably a legit classic). I guess what I'm really saying is that I do not like ET.
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I never really watched Raiders until the fourth one came out (I think I only watched 2 and 3), and it became one of my all time favorites. It's great to see in the theater if you ever get the chance.
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Snak posted:Kylo Ren is a great villain, not because he is great, but because it's surprisingly down to earth to have the bad guy just be a lovely rear end in a top hat with anger management problems who rebelled against his rebel parents way too hard. The fact that Kylo puts Vader on a pedestal and wants to be him is pretty great. "Hitler was really cool, you guys!"
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Kylo Ren captures the zeitgeist in an incredible way. I can point back 30 years from now at that villain and go 'there was a lot of young men who were emotional pieces of poo poo that idolized literal fascists just like this literal bastard Klyo Ren'.
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Dec 6, 2016 12:29
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And they all posted on the internet
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Skoll posted:The problem with TFA, besides JJ Abrams involvement, is it tried too hard to be A New Hope... Which given JJ Abrams involvement I guess was to be expected. He made a lovely low effort unfun rip off of Wrath of Khan so I guess Star Wars needed its turn. At least he didn't go for the Empire Strikes Back rehash. It borrows stuff from all three. The room with the lightsaber is the crappy TFA equivalent of the place on Dagobah where Luke had that vision, the mission to disable the Starkiller's defenses is the uninteresting TFA version of Endor. Han's death is Obi Wan's death plus Vader's reveal as Anakin in Empire. N. Senada posted:Kylo Ren captures the zeitgeist in an incredible way. I can point back 30 years from now at that villain and go 'there was a lot of young men who were emotional pieces of poo poo that idolized literal fascists just like this literal bastard Klyo Ren'. Kylo is good at being the kind of villain he is but it's hard to take him seriously as a threat. Same for the not-Empire.
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My hope for the new trilogy is that Finn is your neutral balancing point and Kylo swings to the light, while Rey swings to the dark side. It would be neat to see each one struggling to deal with the opposite. Rey is supposed to be good but her anger near the end is the temptation of the dark, whereas Kylo is supposed to be good but he struggled with the light during the meeting with his father. I'd like the second film to be both swinging to their 'wrong' side and the third is Kylo and Finn saving Rey from Snoke. I think hat would be fun and neat.
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super sweet best pal posted:Kylo is good at being the kind of villain he is but it's hard to take him seriously as a threat. Same for the not-Empire. I feel the same way about men's rights activists. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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super sweet best pal posted:Kylo is good at being the kind of villain he is but it's hard to take him seriously as a threat. Same for the not-Empire. The Empire was scary because it was an efficient, fascist machine. It was an establishment. It was Nazi Germany. The New Order is scary because they are clueless zealots. The don't know how to build an empire, only how to destroy. They are ISIS.
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