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a lot of them are actually really good. Triumph of the Will is obviously the best and most well known example but i also particularly like Der Ewige Jude as another example of a film that is simultaneously propaganda and film-verité. :-]
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OP, if you like Nazi Propaganda you should check out 300. Thank me later.
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I.N.R.I posted:a lot of them are actually really good. Triumph of the Will is obviously the best and most well known example but i also particularly like Der Ewige Jude as another example of a film that is simultaneously propaganda and film-verité. :-] It's always inspiring to see ideologically pure works of art
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discount cathouse posted:OP, if you like Nazi Propaganda you should check out 300. 300 came out in 2007... Wrong century, much?
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discount cathouse posted:OP, if you like Nazi Propaganda you should check out 300. how come ? In Training posted:It's always inspiring to see ideologically pure works of art agreed. many of these films are technical masterpieces also. but i personally appreciate their message more than their cinematography
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Birth of a Nation is more KKK propaganda than Nazi but I can see why it was groundbreaking compared to the stuff at the time.
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I.N.R.I posted:how come ? And what message is that?
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GonSmithe posted:And what message is that? Strength, pride, and good moral character
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If you really want to talk about batshit crazy Nazi film projects the conversation really begins and ends with Kolberg. It was a mega-huge project, one of the largest productions in the history of film up to that point. It was a period piece about the Napoleonic Wars with a MASSIVE goddamned cast. SOmething like 150,000 extras were involved in the key battle scenes. Even crazier, since this was a state supported project they used about 50,000 members of the military to fill out those numbers. At one point a key scene takes place in the snow. Not wanting to wait for winter they trucked in a few thousand truckloads of salt. Oh yeah, people died filming the battle scenes. Some explosive charges hosed up or something and some extras got toasted. This was a movie battle with actual casualties. The best part? Filming stated in 1943 and finished in 1944. You know, when the Soviets were busy grinding the Wehrmacht into a fine red paste. I wonder if there is anything better they could have done with about 5 infantry divisions worth of military personnel? It was released right at the end of the war and only ever got a very limited release. The whole thing is peak mental nazi bullshit front to end.
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Cyrano4747 posted:If you really want to talk about batshit crazy Nazi film projects the conversation really begins and ends with Kolberg. It was a mega-huge project, one of the largest productions in the history of film up to that point. It was a period piece about the Napoleonic Wars with a MASSIVE goddamned cast. SOmething like 150,000 extras were involved in the key battle scenes. Even crazier, since this was a state supported project they used about 50,000 members of the military to fill out those numbers. This owns both because that movie sounds crazy and cause Nazis died.
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# ? Dec 2, 2016 17:42 |
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you can argue that the Nolan Batmans are this
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# ? Dec 2, 2016 18:26 |
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Let's discuss Nazi procreation films, such as Ilsa, She Wolf of the SS.
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HORMELCHILI posted:you can argue that the Nolan Batmans are this The Nazis wouldnt ever use a such degenerate technique as shakycam action. they're much better than that.
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FactsAreUseless posted:Let's discuss Nazi procreation films, such as Ilsa, She Wolf of the SS. The Night Porter is dope
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FactsAreUseless posted:Let's discuss Nazi procreation films, such as Ilsa, She Wolf of the SS. The Reader is really bad
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FactsAreUseless posted:Let's discuss Nazi procreation films, such as Ilsa, She Wolf of the SS. I unironically wish Rob Zombie made a full movie of the Werewolf Women of SS grindhouse trailer. With Nicholas Cage as Fu Manchu!
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discount cathouse posted:The Reader is really bad
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# ? Dec 2, 2016 22:12 |
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Cyrano4747 posted:If you really want to talk about batshit crazy Nazi film projects the conversation really begins and ends with Kolberg. It was a mega-huge project, one of the largest productions in the history of film up to that point. It was a period piece about the Napoleonic Wars with a MASSIVE goddamned cast. SOmething like 150,000 extras were involved in the key battle scenes. Even crazier, since this was a state supported project they used about 50,000 members of the military to fill out those numbers. I don't think that kind of thing is mental or bullshit. I think it's a supreme technical accomplishment, though my heart goes out to the people who died on set.
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Goebbel's didn't care much for overt propaganda. In his opinion films that were just generally entertaining and appealed to a wide audience but reinforced the values the Nazis thought were important were far better propaganda than a film that just out and out tells you who is bad and who is good and why you should care or some poo poo like that. He preferred narrative films like Hitler Junge Quex (1933, d.p. Konstantin Irmen-Tschet) and Jud Süß (1940, d.p. Bruno Mondi). He particularly liked Jud Süß because it was basically your standard costume drama except the villain was really Jewish so it reinfoced anti-semitism without explicitly coming out and saying "Hey Jews are bad, alright.". I don't think he like Riefenstahl much because she had a vagina but also because he thought her films were too on the nose and obviously Nazi. I mean Triumph of the Will is about 3 hours of dudes in uniforms having a parade occasionally interrupted by Hitler. It's pretty boring.
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FreudianSlippers posted:Goebbel's didn't care much for overt propaganda. In his opinion films that were just generally entertaining and appealed to a wide audience but reinforced the values the Nazis thought were important were far better propaganda than a film that just out and out tells you who is bad and who is good and why you should care or some poo poo like that. He preferred narrative films like Hitler Junge Quex (1933, d.p. Konstantin Irmen-Tschet) and Jud Süß (1940, d.p. Bruno Mondi). He particularly liked Jud Süß because it was basically your standard costume drama except the villain was really Jewish so it reinfoced anti-semitism without explicitly coming out and saying "Hey Jews are bad, alright.". I don't think he like Riefenstahl much because she had a vagina but also because he thought her films were too on the nose and obviously Nazi. I mean Triumph of the Will is about 3 hours of dudes in uniforms having a parade occasionally interrupted by Hitler. It's pretty boring. I don't have a particularly high opinion of Goebbels and his love for subliminal propaganda seems to me to reflect exactly what he supposedly despises, by which I mean the perceived machiavellianism of the Jewish race
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I.N.R.I posted:I don't have a particularly high opinion of Goebbels hell, same
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HORMELCHILI posted:you can argue that the Nolan Batmans are this Yeah, I remember when Hitler dressed as a bat and when Winston Churchill said"Why so serious?" gently caress off troll (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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FreudianSlippers posted:I don't think he like Riefenstahl much because she had a vagina
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