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What is it with all the people defending The World is Not Enough? That film was loving garbage, Denise Richards sucked all the charisma out of the film
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MikeCrotch posted:What is it with all the people defending The World is Not Enough? That film was loving garbage, Denise Richards sucked all the charisma out of the film Your red text is one of the few I've seen to make me belly laugh. I'm actually interested in the recipe now as well!
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Jan 16, 2017 15:16
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TWINE is an okay film overall and unless you have a specific hate for Denise Richards, she's largely forgettable, especially since Electra's way more interesting. It could just be most of the thread hasn't it seen since 1999 or so and forgot the awful bits like the ending pun. Things I can't forget? That poor girl getting ripped apart by dogs in Moonraker. Yeesh.
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Jan 16, 2017 23:18
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Turbinosamente posted:Things I can't forget? That poor girl getting ripped apart by dogs in Moonraker. Yeesh. I'm watching Moonraker for the first time tomorrow, and now I know to look forward to this.
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Jan 16, 2017 23:35
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Turbinosamente posted:TWINE is an okay film overall and unless you have a specific hate for Denise Richards, she's largely forgettable, especially since Electra's way more interesting. It could just be most of the thread hasn't it seen since 1999 or so and forgot the awful bits like the ending pun. The main theme song is pr cool, I think
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Jan 16, 2017 23:55
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egon_beeblebrox posted:I'm watching Moonraker for the first time tomorrow, and now I know to look forward to this. Don't get your hopes up too high as it's mostly implied (it's the 70s can't have too much gore and violence in a bond film yet) but it's a little chilling the way the camera pans up as the dogs catch up and pounce on her while the church bells start tolling in the background. Edit: mis-remembered some details in the spoiler but still remembered the gist of it. Turbinosamente fucked around with this message at 01:13 on Jan 17, 2017 |
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Jan 17, 2017 01:09
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VideoGames posted:Your red text is one of the few I've seen to make me belly laugh. I'm actually interested in the recipe now as well! You can find the recipe in the same place as the Wallace and Gromit slashfiction and the Beanie Baby thread. none of them exist and were made up by the UKMT redtext bomber
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Jan 17, 2017 16:56
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sean10mm posted:On the other hand they try to do the Mission: Impossible mask disguise for real instead of just using 2 actors, and it just makes Yaphet Koto look like he has influenza. Not that it really matters all that much in that movie, but that was a leftover from the book, and in typical Fleming fashion, he has a medical condition which is some problem with his heart that fucks with his circulation
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Jan 18, 2017 02:51
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MikeCrotch posted:You can find the recipe in the same place as the Wallace and Gromit slashfiction and the Beanie Baby thread. Oh  Well that is a bummer. Bollocknese sounds really meaty.
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Jan 18, 2017 09:19
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VideoGames posted:Oh Be the change you want to see. Earn your own spaghetti related red text!
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Jan 18, 2017 14:18
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MikeCrotch posted:You can find the recipe in the same place as the Wallace and Gromit slashfiction and the Beanie Baby thread. I got some crazy red text involving Honda cars once, a thing I'm pretty sure I never talked about. 
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Jan 19, 2017 16:55
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Moonraker was dumb as hell and I love it for it.
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Jan 19, 2017 22:24
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Going back to campy Bond takes, has anyone else seen the MST3K episode 'Operation: Kid Brother'? For an apparent spoof(?), it has a lot of early Bond regulars in it. Also Neil Connery.
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Jan 26, 2017 11:32
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A yup I have seen MST3K'd Operation Kid Brother. It's slightly above average for a 1960s spy film it's put together pretty well. No worse than real spoofs like Derek Flint and thankfully not incomprehensible like Castle of Fu Manchu or Modesty Blaise. Though I prefer the riffs of Danger Death Day so that take my top spot for the spy movies done by MST3K. Operation Kid Brother does have the best I can't believe it's not Bond opening theme song though.
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Jan 26, 2017 23:56
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Modesty Blaise was a great comic strip, so the weak film adaptation sort of hurt. If they wanted to keep the mood of Bond alive long enough to work on a reboot, I say bring back Modesty (but with way better writers). Or do a re-release of Operation Kid Brother, since that movie is a bit of a hoot. Danger Death Ray is also a bit better than Agent from HARM, another MST3K spy flick, in that Bart Fargo actually did stuff. Edit: Holy crap, I never realized that Ennio Morricone was the composer both Operation Kid Brother AND Danger Diabolik! That explains the totally awesome music. 
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Jan 27, 2017 12:24
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Oh man would a proper Modesty Blaise film be great, but I'd be a little afraid that if they did one now we'd wind up with some sort of gritty realistic Jason Bourne super serious action film with spies in it. Even Bond himself has had all of the humor drained out, though I suppose you can't really reproduce the carefree feel of a 60s eurospy trash film nowadays. The Man from U.N.C.L.E. remake tried something like this and it was okayish: it still got kinda dark in a couple places and real mean spirited near the end with the villain's death.
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Jan 28, 2017 00:46
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Man from U.N.C.L.E. was also hurt by a movie trailer that felt longer than normal. Another thing to consider with a modern Modesty adaptation: the last movie made the mistake of making her and Willie love interests. They were never that in the comics, so keeping the original state of the relationship (professional/platonic) would help keep the movie from being like all the others. Oh, and they would need to cast someone who is not built like a whippet.
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Jan 28, 2017 00:57
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Artsygrrl posted:Man from U.N.C.L.E. was also hurt by a movie trailer that felt longer than normal. Another thing to consider with a modern Modesty adaptation: the last movie made the mistake of making her and Willie love interests. They were never that in the comics, so keeping the original state of the relationship (professional/platonic) would help keep the movie from being like all the others. Gemma Arterton please. Now we just need a young Michael Caine-looking type to play Willie. Vincent Van Goatse fucked around with this message at 01:18 on Jan 30, 2017 |
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Jan 30, 2017 01:16
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Unless you can think of any underused English actors, I am leaning towards hiring a relative unknown. He would need to be able to handle knife throwing and stunt work, though.
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Jan 30, 2017 02:15
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Watched The Living Daylights last night again and it always saddens me a bit that Dalton only got two shots. He's so impressive in that film. Really the only fault I find in that film is when it gets slower and more confusing in the Afghanistan section but that part ends with the great airbase battle and plane fight stuntwork so it's worth it. Also, that Bond car 
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Jan 30, 2017 03:29
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Octopussy is better than A View to A Kill and Live and Let Die and arguably Moonraker if only because of General Gogol's plotline and the theme song I agree. It's one of the best three Roger Moore films, even if he's dressed as a clown. At least it makes some sort of sense given the plot and there's a lot of good stuff in it. Plus, Louis Jourdan really is a good Bond villain. Problem is, that's probably where the Moore films should have left off. Colostomy Bag posted:For the Live and Let Die fans, Clifton James, the lovable Cajun Sheriff Pepper is still alive at 95 years old. Holy poo poo, that's pretty awesome. Turbinosamente posted:Don't get your hopes up too high as it's mostly implied (it's the 70s can't have too much gore and violence in a bond film yet) but it's a little chilling the way the camera pans up as the dogs catch up and pounce on her while the church bells start tolling in the background. It's a chilling and kinda awesome scene, really. It's a good example of how evil Drax is..and in fact it's the only subtle moment in the drat film. Before and after is just pure madness from hovercraft boats to random locations to finally Bond as Star Wars and punnage ahoy. Not that I hate Moonraker, but the tone of the whole affair is 'we're doing this because of Star Wars, ignore the underwritten bad guy and oh here's an unrealistic space fight.' It didn't do anybody any favors, even if it gave us all a second Jaws film and a nice way to write him off from the series. Shinjobi posted:Moonraker was dumb as hell and I love it for it. This. Artsygrrl posted:Going back to campy Bond takes, has anyone else seen the MST3K episode 'Operation: Kid Brother'? For an apparent spoof(?), it has a lot of early Bond regulars in it. It's basically 'Neil Connery and everybody from Thunderball,' once again proving that Thunderball is inexplicably one of the most redone Bond films ever despite being boring as sin. Turbinosamente posted:A yup I have seen MST3K'd Operation Kid Brother. It's slightly above average for a 1960s spy film it's put together pretty well. No worse than real spoofs like Derek Flint and thankfully not incomprehensible like Castle of Fu Manchu or Modesty Blaise. Though I prefer the riffs of Danger Death Day so that take my top spot for the spy movies done by MST3K. 1) Nothing compares to Danger Death Ray's cheap bathtub special effects. 2) "I KNOW!" *musical sting* Artsygrrl posted:Modesty Blaise was a great comic strip, so the weak film adaptation sort of hurt. If they wanted to keep the mood of Bond alive long enough to work on a reboot, I say bring back Modesty (but with way better writers). Oh god this. That reminds me, I need to get the Blaise novels and comic strip books. I managed to get a few but those were quite interesting for what they were. Turbinosamente posted:Oh man would a proper Modesty Blaise film be great, but I'd be a little afraid that if they did one now we'd wind up with some sort of gritty realistic Jason Bourne super serious action film with spies in it. Even Bond himself has had all of the humor drained out, though I suppose you can't really reproduce the carefree feel of a 60s eurospy trash film nowadays. The Man from U.N.C.L.E. remake tried something like this and it was okayish: it still got kinda dark in a couple places and real mean spirited near the end with the villain's death. Does anybody have any recommends for '60s Eurospy films? I'm all ears, even if we have to make a new thread for it. I know the Superargo films count even if they err a bit on the Diabolik side of things, but I do dig '60s superspy cheese. Lobok posted:Watched The Living Daylights last night again and it always saddens me a bit that Dalton only got two shots. He's so impressive in that film. Really the only fault I find in that film is when it gets slower and more confusing in the Afghanistan section but that part ends with the great airbase battle and plane fight stuntwork so it's worth it. Nothing beats the Cello Snow scene. I still love that.
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Mar 16, 2017 10:10
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roger moores by far the worst bond, including lazenby and dalton, most of his movies are total dreck aand he himself is boring as sin
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Mar 17, 2017 18:39
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The Spy Who Loved Me is one of my absolute favorite Bond movies, and For Your Eyes Only isn't half bad. All the other Moore films are bad, though. Moonraker and The Man With The Golden Gun outright suck- I especially can't forgive TMWTGG for building up Christopher Lee's character before wasting him in an incredibly anticlimactic climax, and for having one of the coolest car stunts ever caught on film: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trJocyjCBzo and spoiling it with what may be the most out-of-place slide whistle ever.
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Mar 17, 2017 19:48
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This is a Good Thread Upon somewhat recent rewatches, Casino Royale was worse than I remember it, and Quantum of Solace was better than I remember. The one scene in Royale I still don't understand to this day, where after Bond is recovered from his ball scratching session and is offered a drink by Mathis, two random(?) MI6(?) agents zap Mathis and get Bond back? wat I also still don't get why Eva Green offed herself at the end - something about some boyfriend she has/had that, in spite of the time and travel spent with Bond, she still felt strongly enough to sacrifice herself unnecessarily for? And over what, a briefcase of cash? While the main story in Quantum is an underwhelming way of bringing forth what could be a very serious issue of privatization of a nation's water supply, I still really enjoyed how they set up what had great potential as a Spectre-esque organization in Quantum. Setting up Mr. White, the agent in the beginning that said something about having eyes everywhere, and the theater scene of all the Quantum members all was done quite well in building up something that could have been great. Of course all of that was put aside in Skyfall, and then lazily and shittily lumped together under the Spectre umbrella later. Spectre was wholly disappointing, and in typical Bond movie fashion, they bring in a modern issue like government surveillance, but then fail to do anything with it. Governments spying on its citizens are bad, so we're going to have Spectre with all its power and criminal reach.... seek the same power of surveillance?
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Mar 17, 2017 19:59
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Lumpy the Cook posted:The Spy Who Loved Me is one of my absolute favorite Bond movies, and For Your Eyes Only isn't half bad. every time i see that stunt my butt clenches a little, it's so drat good. bbut yeah id agree with both of those being good movies, along wth maybe octopussy if i'm in the right mood. otherwise yeah, nothing else is even close to good. part of the problem is with the scripts and direction playng up the stupid we're so fuckin goofy and camp stuff but part of its that roger moore has no charisma, he just acts smug and bored all the time. imo even the dalton years or the bad brosnan movies do better bond
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Mar 17, 2017 20:38
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A View To A Kill is bad but I've always had a soft spot for it because 1. Duran Duran FTW 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEWAkJuz7Eo 3. Zorin's plan (flood Silicon Valley and kill everyone within) is easily the wisest., noblest and most justifiable plan a Bond villain has ever had
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Mar 17, 2017 20:42
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Skyfall was beautifully shot but incredibly boring. Getting to make a joke about the third act being Home Alone was kinda fun tho.
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Mar 17, 2017 23:18
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metallicaeg posted:I also still don't get why Eva Green offed herself at the end - something about some boyfriend she has/had that, in spite of the time and travel spent with Bond, she still felt strongly enough to sacrifice herself unnecessarily for? And over what, a briefcase of cash? She didn't sacrifice herself unnecessarily, at least not in her mind. She lets herself die because she thinks that she won't be able to escape and she doesn't want her death to be a failure on Bond's part. She loves Bond. But she also loved her boyfriend, and her boyfriend being held hostage by Quantum is why she had to betray Bond and the government. In Quantum Bond eventually learns that her boyfriend was a Quantum agent himself so the whole thing was a honey pot operation so she really did die for nothing. When Bond catches up to him at the end of the movie, he's pulling the same poo poo on a Canadian woman and Bond very much wants to kill him.
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Mar 17, 2017 23:39
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metallicaeg posted:This is a Good Thread QoS is the best of the modern Bond flicks. The stunts are great, the players are great (Olga!), it's tight and well shot without too much fluff.
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Mar 17, 2017 23:38
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:QoS is the best of the modern Bond flicks. The stunts are great, the players are great (Olga!), it's tight and well shot without too much fluff. QoS has the worst editing of any modern Bond film.
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Mar 17, 2017 23:43
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Skwirl posted:QoS has the worst editing of any modern Bond film. Interesting, because I remember the action scenes in that one far better than any of the others, even though it uses a bit of Bourne-era shakey cam at times.
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Mar 18, 2017 00:02
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:Interesting, because I remember the action scenes in that one far better than any of the others, even though it uses a bit of Bourne-era shakey cam at times. The opening car chase is a bit of a mess, and supposedly there was a whole car in the chase they excised or something like that?
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Quantum of Solace's cinematography made me wanna hurl. It's probably my least liked Bond movie that isn't Die Another Day
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Mar 18, 2017 00:11
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QoS is definitely an example of rapid-fire editing used to overload the senses, and sound editing/mixing to ground the experience. But it's one of the best examples of that category of action. The rooftop chase has an incredible amount of cuts, and yet it manages to somehow keep coherence while being incredibly fast-paced and thrilling, juxtaposing the chase with scenes of public sport and slow, everyday life, and syncing power notes in the score to specific actions. It's not usually my cup of tea, and when done wrong this kind of scene can be unbearable, but I rather like it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89aTFgtsXX0 Another example of mixing that allows the user to breath is after the boat chase when the final boat flips and everything goes mute on the track. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIfNTzQaKoo The last minute of the flight chase absolutely floored me at the time, and makes action scenes in Skyfall and Spectre look not only ridiculous, but tedious. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14PMgikQ6oo And QoS even outdoes the Bourne movies at their own game with cqb, keeping it short and brutal, and focusing the camera on the objects involved in the fight, and emphasizing the ruthless qualities of the Bond character that Casino Royale reintroduced. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7kFoR4m1Y0
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Turbinosamente posted:Oh man would a proper Modesty Blaise film be great, but I'd be a little afraid that if they did one now we'd wind up with some sort of gritty realistic Jason Bourne super serious action film with spies in it. Even Bond himself has had all of the humor drained out, though I suppose you can't really reproduce the carefree feel of a 60s eurospy trash film nowadays. The Man from U.N.C.L.E. remake tried something like this and it was okayish: it still got kinda dark in a couple places and real mean spirited near the end with the villain's death. the guy ritchie man from uncle was really really good in no small part because a nazi getting burned alive is played for comedy
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Mar 30, 2017 05:46
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So shoot me. I like Diamonds are Forever. Besides the moon buggy scene and probably a bunch of other ones that I find convenient to forget. Granted, not the greatest by any stretch of anyone's imagination. Guess I have a soft spot for old school Vegas.
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70s urban America is a perfect aesthetic, a really cool mix of sleaze and suave
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Apr 1, 2017 02:21
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Also the Bond girl was fine as hell.
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Apr 1, 2017 03:35
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Colostomy Bag posted:So shoot me. I like Diamonds are Forever. Besides the moon buggy scene and probably a bunch of other ones that I find convenient to forget. There's nothing wrong with liking Diamonds are Forever.
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Skwirl posted:QoS has the worst editing of any modern Bond film. How modern is "modern"? Tomorrow Never Dies has some real editing problems with it, but that was twenty years ago. Meanwhile, this is worth a watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t10mNXtfdUw
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