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vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011
Die Another Day and Spectre are both garbage and Spectre even did it's damnedest to retroactively ruin the good Daniel Craig movies too which was unforgivable imo.

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vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

Turbinosamente posted:

Wait why was Spectre poo poo? I never got around to seeing it because I am the only person on Earth who doesn't really like Daniel Craig all that much and didn't like Casino Royale '07. (The book was waaaaay better).

It's not that it's necessarily completely bad but it's a dramatic change of tone from the other Daniel Craig movies. It's much more like a silly Roger Moore movie, where most of the plot is advanced through crazy coincidences and Bond is back to having superpowers and everything works out for him. At one point he shoots down a helicopter with a pistol with like two bullets.

I dunno I only saw Spectre once but I was rolling my eyes the entire way through because the plot was nonsense, none of the characters' actions and choices made any sense, and things just continually worked out for Bond anyway like magic. Like "Bond has two minutes to search this ten storey abandoned building for a prisoner before the building explodes, and he finds the prisoner after twenty seconds" kind of nonsense. And to top it all off they retconned the previous three Craig movies to make Christoph Waltz's character responsible for everything in them while also being James Bond's brother from childhood for some reason. It was really stupid. I really like liking movies and I hated Spectre.

The absolute best part of the movie is literally the first shot, as there's some really incredible cinematography during a long continuous shot of Bond just walking through a Day of the Dead parade and onto a rooftop. That was amazing and I thought I was in for a real treat if that was going to set the tone for the movie and then the whole thing was downhill from there and I ended up really disappointed. My wife too, she loves DCraig Bond movies and she hated Spectre.

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

Drink-Mix Man posted:

Maybe I'm just fansplaining here, but I always took that "author of all your pain" stuff to be interpreted as Bloefeldt aggrandizing, taking credit for a bunch of loosely connected stuff he was only partly involved in. He's an egotistical little twerp and control freak that wants badly for everyone to believe he's practically omnipotent.

Nah cause there's that megadumb scene at the ski lodge where Q puts that octopus ring on his magic laptop device and it pulls up the DNA of all the characters from the other Craig movies (or something equally stupid, that part was hard to follow since they didn't actually bother to explain what technomagic you're supposed to be watching), thereby proving that Blofeld and his dumb octopus organization were somehow involved in everything else. And since he's Chief Bozo of the octopus, as proven by the dumb scene in Rome where he's the chairman of the board and everyone is scared of him, he's the guy who decided to gently caress with Bond... somehow.

I get the urge to justify it, but it's pretty clear the filmmakers wanted Blofeld to be seen as the actual guy responsible for everything else.

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