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BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK



bitterandtwisted posted:

It's the least like a Moore Bond film, and that's why I like it. It has very little wackiness, few (any?) gadgets, a fairly grounded plot and Moore straight up murders a guy by kicking his car off a cliff and doesn't even make a funny quip about it.
It also has a car chase with a Critroen 2cv

I was really impressed with FYEO when I first saw it, being sort of sour on Moore myself. It's a really good Bond film, Carole Bouquet has a wicked hot stare, and there's even a mountain assault scene. I'd agree that it's the best Moore bond film, if not the most iconic which is The Spy Who Loved Me. Nobody Does It Better can't really be beaten in terms of themesongs.

BeanpolePeckerwood fucked around with this message at 21:24 on Dec 11, 2016

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BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK



Turbinosamente posted:

I always wondered why they suddenly felt the need to reboot the franchise/character after 40 years and do this sort of character development. Is there more to it then the Bond producers chasing after current movie trends again? (Avengers!, multiple films!, Overarching plot!)

They tried a serious reboot with Lazenby, too, but it was a sour relationship even if the movie was good, so they went back to spectacle Bond.

BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK



Andorra posted:

That wasn't a reboot though. It was just another story about James Bond that happened to star a different person than the other ones. They ground the movies immediately following the most outlandish ones, but none of them said "You know all those other Bond movies? Yeah, those don't count. Check out how Bond really gets going!"


If you say so.

BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK



Speleothing posted:

A lotta people ranking Skyfall highly, when I thought it was really really lovely. Classic bad "villain wanted to be caught" plot-point. Bullshit callbacks to older, better movies lathered on too thick. And a complete failure to acknowledge that the villain achieved all his goals and won.

It had nice cinematography but yeah, it's poo poo-tier bond, even compared to the relatively spare movie that preceded it. I think Skyfall is regarded well more for its accessibility among the masses.

BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK



Homework Explainer posted:

goldfinger sucked

skyfall was beautiful but sucked

quantum is in the top five bond movies and is number two if folded in with casino royale for one mega-movie (behind from russia with love)

I'm with this, though I'd put OHMSS > FRWL > Casino/Quantum double feature

BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK



Saint Freak posted:

I watched Moonraker a couple months back and apparently I had misremembered the scene with Jaws meeting his girlfriend. Like, in my mind he smiles revealing his metal teeth and she smiles revealing big braces and that's the joke; they both have mouths of metal. Except that doesn't happen because she does not have braces.

Anyway I googled it and apparently there's tons of people out there that remember that and/or believe that there is an alternate universe version of the movie that exists where she does have braces and have gone to insane lengths examining every shot that woman is in frame-by-frame to find proof of it and it's a massive rabbit hole of crazy people.








edit: for the record I don't believe I am from an alternate universe I just think I have a dumb brain and they missed an easy joke.

second edit: also the best Moore is The Spy Who Loved Me

I remember her having braces, too.


Isn't this another case of VHS copies having different master footage than what was eventually put on the DVD version?

BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK



Drink-Mix Man posted:

I remember it that way too! I saw that movie like five times when I was a teenager.

You know how, like, people will mix up all the letters in a word but as long as the first and last one are correct people still read it like normal? Maybe it's the same thing. The joke was so obvious, so THERE so our minds filled in the blank subconsciously and saw it the "correct" way.

Maybe when Jaws flashed his choppers I was like "thar be choppers" and then Dolly flashed her big buck teeth and I was like "thar be choppers" and somewhere across the years my mind transposed "choppers" with "braces" because I don't know if people even HAVE braces in Scandinavia and then some goon started perpetuating a lie about there being braces and everyone was too preoccupied to care whether it was true or not


Anyways. It's weird.

BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK



baby, you're the best montage i've seen

BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK



Turbinosamente posted:

TWINE is an okay film overall and unless you have a specific hate for Denise Richards, she's largely forgettable, especially since Electra's way more interesting. It could just be most of the thread hasn't it seen since 1999 or so and forgot the awful bits like the ending pun.

Things I can't forget? That poor girl getting ripped apart by dogs in Moonraker. Yeesh.

The main theme song is pr cool, I think

BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK



metallicaeg posted:

This is a Good Thread

Upon somewhat recent rewatches, Casino Royale was worse than I remember it, and Quantum of Solace was better than I remember. The one scene in Royale I still don't understand to this day, where after Bond is recovered from his ball scratching session and is offered a drink by Mathis, two random(?) MI6(?) agents zap Mathis and get Bond back? wat I also still don't get why Eva Green offed herself at the end - something about some boyfriend she has/had that, in spite of the time and travel spent with Bond, she still felt strongly enough to sacrifice herself unnecessarily for? And over what, a briefcase of cash?

While the main story in Quantum is an underwhelming way of bringing forth what could be a very serious issue of privatization of a nation's water supply, I still really enjoyed how they set up what had great potential as a Spectre-esque organization in Quantum. Setting up Mr. White, the agent in the beginning that said something about having eyes everywhere, and the theater scene of all the Quantum members all was done quite well in building up something that could have been great. Of course all of that was put aside in Skyfall, and then lazily and shittily lumped together under the Spectre umbrella later.

Spectre was wholly disappointing, and in typical Bond movie fashion, they bring in a modern issue like government surveillance, but then fail to do anything with it. Governments spying on its citizens are bad, so we're going to have Spectre with all its power and criminal reach.... seek the same power of surveillance?

QoS is the best of the modern Bond flicks. The stunts are great, the players are great (Olga!), it's tight and well shot without too much fluff.

BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK



Skwirl posted:

QoS has the worst editing of any modern Bond film.

Interesting, because I remember the action scenes in that one far better than any of the others, even though it uses a bit of Bourne-era shakey cam at times.

BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK



QoS is definitely an example of rapid-fire editing used to overload the senses, and sound editing/mixing to ground the experience. But it's one of the best examples of that category of action. The rooftop chase has an incredible amount of cuts, and yet it manages to somehow keep coherence while being incredibly fast-paced and thrilling, juxtaposing the chase with scenes of public sport and slow, everyday life, and syncing power notes in the score to specific actions.

It's not usually my cup of tea, and when done wrong this kind of scene can be unbearable, but I rather like it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89aTFgtsXX0


Another example of mixing that allows the user to breath is after the boat chase when the final boat flips and everything goes mute on the track.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIfNTzQaKoo

The last minute of the flight chase absolutely floored me at the time, and makes action scenes in Skyfall and Spectre look not only ridiculous, but tedious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14PMgikQ6oo

And QoS even outdoes the Bourne movies at their own game with cqb, keeping it short and brutal, and focusing the camera on the objects involved in the fight, and emphasizing the ruthless qualities of the Bond character that Casino Royale reintroduced.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7kFoR4m1Y0

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BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK



OH poo poo!

The Spy Who Lol'd Me.

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