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idk i feel like "quick open this random rear end file in literally any editor and look at and maybe edit the contents" isnt that weird of a workflow
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if you disable plugin update checking in notepad++ it starts faster in my experience.
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Bloody posted:idk i feel like "quick open this random rear end file in literally any editor and look at and maybe edit the contents" isnt that weird of a workflow Yeah, I usually already have vs code open so this doesn't take any time at all. Maybe your workflow is bad?
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akadajet posted:Yeah, I usually already have vs code open so this doesn't take any time at all. Maybe your workflow is bad? it sounds like your computer owns you, man
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Jan 9, 2017 17:44
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I've never found any text editor that can open enormous (GB+) files as fast as editpad lite (5.4 from circa 2005) and I still keep it installed for just this reason no syntax highlighting though
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Jan 9, 2017 20:21
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COACHS SPORT BAR posted:I've never found any text editor that can open enormous (GB+) files as fast as editpad lite (5.4 from circa 2005) and I still keep it installed for just this reason what about the various XEDIT replicas: SEDIT/KEdit/THE
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Jan 10, 2017 20:54
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COACHS SPORT BAR posted:I've never found any text editor that can open enormous (GB+) files as fast as editpad lite (5.4 from circa 2005) and I still keep it installed for just this reason UltraEdit can do that too
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Jan 10, 2017 21:19
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Perplx posted:UltraEdit can do that too They have this at work. It's all weird and hosed up.
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Jan 10, 2017 22:08
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Sublime because it is super fast and just works. Atom is a piece of poo poo. You have to jump through hoops to get it to work behind a corporate firewall that MITM's SSL connections. And I have crashed it before while editing a big .cpp file because it couldn't keep up with syntax highlighting. It literally choked trying to color my text.
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Jan 10, 2017 22:18
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i assumed people recommending atom were joking because atom is a joke
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Jan 10, 2017 22:20
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COACHS SPORT BAR posted:I've never found any text editor that can open enormous (GB+) files as fast as editpad lite (5.4 from circa 2005) and I still keep it installed for just this reason https://www.emeditor.com/ 248 gb !!!!
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Jan 10, 2017 22:22
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Nalin posted:a corporate firewall that MITM's SSL connections how the gently caress is this even allowed to work
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Jan 10, 2017 22:29
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did i already say i use clion? because i do
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Jan 10, 2017 22:31
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There Will Be Penalty posted:how the gently caress is this even allowed to work that happens here, I literally can't use npm, atom, vscode, sublime, apt-get, pip, anything that calls out to a remote server via SSL. it's great!
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Jan 10, 2017 22:32
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our enterprise proxy is a hosed up piece of poo poo but ive had great success with using fiddler to tunnel poorly designed applications thru it
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Jan 10, 2017 22:33
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COOL CORN posted:that happens here, I literally can't use npm, atom, vscode, sublime, apt-get, pip, anything that calls out to a remote server via SSL. this is a bit for me to wrap my head around here `export https_proxy=http://yourfirewall:yourportnumber/` doesn't work? (or https://)
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Jan 10, 2017 22:39
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doesnt include any credentials, 0/10, would not auth
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Jan 10, 2017 22:42
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Bloody posted:doesnt include any credentials, 0/10, would not auth urls can contain credentials if the proxy supports basic authentication so http:// or https://yourusername:yourpassword@yourfirewall:yourportnumber/ might or might not work but then you'd be storing your credentials in the environment
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my corporate proxy requires login yet https_proxy=http://proxy:port/ works without specifying credentials in the proxy url so stuff might be allowed by ip address i guess
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Jan 10, 2017 22:48
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There Will Be Penalty posted:urls can contain credentials if the proxy supports basic authentication so http:// or https://yourusername:yourpassword@yourfirewall:yourportnumber/ might or might not work but then you'd be storing your credentials in the environment this frequently breaks for me due to a variety of encoding problems ive encountered for sticking the domain server in with the username (which i have found required when it does work). variants of http://DOMAIN\user:pass@proxy:port have needed DOMAIN\user, DOMAIN/user, DOMAIN\\user, DOMAIN\/user, DOMAIN%5cuser, basically its all a clusterfuck. CNTLM and fiddler are much simpler, gently caress it
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Jan 10, 2017 22:51
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oh no blimp issue posted:did i already say i use clion? i don't get ides that support only one or two languages because multiple-language ides (and editors) are a thing
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There Will Be Penalty posted:how the gently caress is this even allowed to work Firewall MITM's all SSL connections. Every PC is imaged with the firewall's SSL cert trusted in the certificate store. Therefore, any application which relies on the internal certificate store of the OS work just fine. It's only apps like Firefox and Atom which have their own internal certificate store which have issues. While Firefox provides an easy way to add new certificates, until just a few weeks ago Node used a statically compiled, manually updated, hardcoded list of certificate authorities, which means you have to make multiple custom configuration files in different places to disable all SSL checking for Atom as there is no way to just add a new certificate.
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Jan 10, 2017 22:52
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got it
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Jan 10, 2017 22:55
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what about anything using certificate pinning
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eschaton posted:what about anything using certificate pinning I checked github (the only HPKP website that I know of) on my work VPN and it looks like it doesn't scan it. So it probably ignores anything that uses HPKP, which isn't really many websites at all. Not even microsoft.com uses HPKP. And besides, it is already scanning the SSL traffic. Couldn't it just, you know, remove the public key pins in the request header before sending it to the client?
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COACHS SPORT BAR posted:I've never found any text editor that can open enormous (GB+) files as fast as editpad lite (5.4 from circa 2005) and I still keep it installed for just this reason Can you give an example of a text file containing gigabytes of data? I'm curious
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Boiled Water posted:Can you give an example of a text file containing gigabytes of data? I'm curious Really? lol
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I have a ~12gb flat file right here with data we extract every week from the system of record (a Teradata warehouse). We extract it to a flat file using fast export and then load it into our local application for processing.
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it is weird, considering their audience, how many editors can't deal with huge files, don't work flexibly with encodings, don't have a hex mode, etc it is not like it is such a complex problem space that it'd be difficult to cover such cases
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Boiled Water posted:Can you give an example of a text file containing gigabytes of data? I'm curious a SYSOUT log taken from a z system of our product running for ~5 mins with some diagnostic trace turned on
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Boiled Water posted:Can you give an example of a text file containing gigabytes of data? I'm curious p. much any log for a system which handles millions of transactions a day, and likely many that do thousands of sufficient complexity very specifically also stuff like actually working with the binary transaction/recovery logs of some certain systems was best done by using a tool to explode them into text and then using a bunch of unix tools to work ones way through the text. scale happens very quickly when it happens basically, and while one likes to imagine there'll be "specialized" tools to deal with that stuff, the tools will invariably be worse than a good text editor
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:it is weird, considering their audience, how many editors can't deal with huge files, don't work flexibly with encodings, don't have a hex mode, etc well I mean I think most people doing actual jobs find the editor that does what they need and stick with it. i used to use bbedit and now I use sublime. I don't need to keep on switching it up. 90% of the other text editors out there are just dumb sperg forks and vanity projects that no one will ever use for serious work *cough* atom
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I don't think huge files is a trivial feature. At that point you have to memory map the file and only load in chunks at a time. Syntax highlighting would be a no-go. You would have to restrict features of modern editors like multi-cursor editing and searching to just the loaded chunk. Any plugin APIs would have to have features to understand what portion of the file you have loaded. It's just a big mess.
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Boiled Water posted:Can you give an example of a text file containing gigabytes of data? I'm curious sure thing buddy say for example, a list of the first trillion prime numbers
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any log file on a server that is in production for any purpose ever in the history of the internet
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Nalin posted:I don't think huge files is a trivial feature. At that point you have to memory map the file and only load in chunks at a time. Syntax highlighting would be a no-go. You would have to restrict features of modern editors like multi-cursor editing and searching to just the loaded chunk. Any plugin APIs would have to have features to understand what portion of the file you have loaded. It's just a big mess. the guy behind Xi editor did a very nice talk that covered this issue: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SKtQgFBRUvQ
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