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Do you believe the Democratic Party lost this election, big time? Do you think they kind of suck in lots of ways? Do you want them to do better? Congrats! it is now your job to make that happen. Don't worry, though - you aren't alone! Lots of us are trying to do exactly the same thing, and we're here to help. Make sure to join the Discord channel, that's where most of the discussion is happening nowadays. So how do I get involved? Your first step will be joining a local party organization. That can be pretty hard, depending on where you are! Ask us for help if you need it. If you can't find any hard details, send me a PM and I'll try to hook you up. Or if you dont have PMs, email me at glyphgryph@gmail.com with a subject line that starts with CSPAM. I've contacted a decent number of party reps the last few weeks, and I am confident at this point that if you can give me an address I can find you an in. I was gonna post like a whole bunch of info here, but honestly it seems like direct contact with local members is the absolute best way to get the ball rolling. If you're in a deep red area, you might actually have to start you own local group - we can help with that too! Hopefully. You can also get involved with activist affiliate orgs like the DSA or whatever your local popular movements are. What should I post here? Chilling and telling jokes and socializing with other people that are also trying to get involved. Ask about how to get involved, either in the party itself or in advocacy groups that help Democrats be less poo poo and get elected and do meaningful stuff. Tell people about upcoming meetings and events and opportunities. Post stories of meetings you've attended and other stuff you've done. Share your ambitious projects. Work on organizing. What should I not post here? Anything, if you're not involved, planning on getting involved, or trying to help people get involved. No extended arguments please. Democratic threads tend to devolve, let's try to avoid that! If you disagree with someone, that's fine, but try to remember the point is to convince people they want to be involved, not to drive them out, so stay specific and don't draw it out. Mods: Feel free to probate me if I fight with anyone in this thread, because I am incorrigible fuckwit sometimes If you would like to volunteer to handle connecting people with the party in your region, please let me know! The following people are handling requests to their associated region. If you want quicker regional responses, consider PMing them instead of me since I'll just be passing your request along to them anyway. ARIZONA - Dr. Arbitrary MICHIGAN - mrfreeze TEXAS - Syndlig Everywhere Else - GlyphGryph Collaboration is encouraged. Here is our current DPP member list by region: ARIZONA Dr. Arbitrary ZeeToo CALIFORNIA ChickenOfTomorrow (North Bay (Sonoma, Marin, Napa)) Lemming (Alameda County) Vox Nihili (Almeda County) ALL-PRO SEXMAN (San Diego) Instant Sunrise (Orange County) COLORADO Ace of Baes DELAWARE Arkhams Razor GEORGIA Serf (Candler County) Ferdinand the Bull (Fulton county) Sojenus (Dekalb county) ILLINOIS Oracle KENTUCKY pathetic little tramp (Jefferson County Louisville) Tewdrig (Jefferson County Louisville) Zberan Madowinty Former Everything MASSACHUSSETS GlyphGryph MICHIGAN mrfreeze (District 13) NEW HAMPSHIRE OhFunny NEW YORK Mukaikubo (Western NY) KimotaBoom (Onondaga County) SOUTH CAROLINA zeal TENNESSEE Gene Hackman Fan (Claiborne) TEXAS Syndlig mastajake (Dallas) WASHINGTON HorseRenoir (Seattle) Wraith of J.O.I. (Seattle, Ballard) WYOMING AbDomen (Albany County) Agean90 (Laramie County) GlyphGryph has issued a correction as of 22:09 on Feb 9, 2017 |
# ¿ Dec 5, 2016 21:56 |
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Syndlig posted:Are you going to update the glyphgryph.com website any time soon, btw? It doesn't look like it's changed since the 17th. Yeah, I think I will, but I gotta figure out what to actually do with it. At first, it was for the DNC information, but that fight seems about as won as it can be for the moment. Then it was about posting meeting updates, but that proved impossible to stay on top of, and it feels like it would be better to trust people to post "upcomings" for their local stuff here in the thread to remind people than to put it on a third party site. So I would love to turn it into a useful tool, but I'm not yet sure what that would actually involve at this point. Suggestions welcome!
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# ¿ Dec 5, 2016 22:32 |
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Yeah. Thats fine, i will include my email in the op too. Its glyphgryph@gmail, start the subject line with CSPAM
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# ¿ Dec 6, 2016 00:15 |
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Suggestion for younger posters (high school age): Lots of local government committees tend to have open student slots in advisory committees. This seems like it might be a good way to get your foot in the door of local government and a good opportunity to start networking, esp. if your local Democratic party is weak. I don't know that for sure, of course, I'm just going by appearances. Someone who is still in high school needs to join and tell us what it's like!
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# ¿ Dec 7, 2016 04:36 |
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Venom Snake posted:I'll be at a meeting of the Florida Baword County dems tomorrow to discuss rebuilding Glad the meeting is back on!
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# ¿ Dec 7, 2016 18:23 |
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Former Everything posted:A quick note regarding the Kentucky Democratic Party: Send me an e-mail.
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# ¿ Dec 8, 2016 20:40 |
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That's a good idea - if not for the site, at least for the OP! I'd be happy to have people take over regional investigations. Especially from Florida, since like half of my requests so far have been for there. If nothing else, do you have an e-mail I can use to send people your way when they come looking after Texas info? quote:Also could be useful is a resource that shows the meeting times/locations of state and county parties, either as some sort of searchable database or as State > County page links? While this would be great, that's a pretty massive undertaking that I have nowhere near enough time to manage. Certainly something I would like to see the national party do, though.
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# ¿ Dec 8, 2016 21:15 |
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mrfreeze posted:Yeah you can point any Michigan folks my way. I'm still learning where all the battle lines are in my local party, But I can at least make sure they know where their meetings are! The majority of people who contact me don't have PMs, so if you could send me an email address it would be much appreciated.
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# ¿ Dec 8, 2016 22:03 |
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Syndlig posted:Got back from the Williamson County Democrat Party meeting about an hour ago; it was pretty cool, actually. The meeting itself was incredibly boring (it's primarily business stuff) but I was able to meet more of the county party members, and made my interest in being precinct chair semi-official. I also met a fellow goon who read my posts and decided to show up, and who expressed interest in being the precinct chair for his precinct, so I feel pretty fuckin' stoked about that.
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# ¿ Dec 9, 2016 05:53 |
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If you are bouncing around a lot you might be better of joining a more focused butg geographically distributed advocacy group than getting involved with the Dems directly
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# ¿ Dec 9, 2016 17:34 |
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So, this may be really stupid but... Edit: Nevermind, it was. Had floated the idea of doing policy proposal exercises and maybe working towards a cohesive guide for discussing policy but... this isn't the thread for it. Ignore the responses below. Sorry. GlyphGryph has issued a correction as of 02:47 on Dec 10, 2016 |
# ¿ Dec 9, 2016 19:46 |
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Barracuda Bang! posted:I don't mean to pick apart each of the crude proposals here. I'm kind of trying to illustrate the thought that each of these could have a thread of their own, and maybe we could keep this thread to doing what the title implies -- cracking open the Democratic Party to get a shot at actual participation. That's a big enough task on its own, and for a page or two, this thread took it seriously. Yeah, in hindsight it was as stupid an idea (for this thread) as I thought it would be. Better to keep a careful focus on Participation here. If anyone is still interested, feel free to start another thread policy discussion, but probably better to stick to "what do I need to do" and "things I have done" specifically here. Any policy discussion done here should be in the form of "I'm going to bring this up at my next meeting and would like feedback" rather than the thread itself generating discussion topics just for the hell of it. GlyphGryph has issued a correction as of 02:48 on Dec 10, 2016 |
# ¿ Dec 10, 2016 02:45 |
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We need to start appealing more to the neolithic block, and stop worrying so much about those drat monoliberals.
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# ¿ Dec 10, 2016 05:19 |
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Ace of Baes posted:Got about 6 people so far willing to help me throw a coup of the local DNC. Radical. For easier collaboration, I have decided there is at least one more on topic thing I would like to do in this thread : let me know if you want your state or region added to the OP so people can see at a glance if there are any fellow revolutionaries in the area to man the barricades with
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# ¿ Dec 10, 2016 21:30 |
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As a New England person who frequently moves between states I wonder how much cross state politica there is. Seems like we are all close enough to be working together, anyway
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# ¿ Dec 10, 2016 23:07 |
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Okay, I think OP is up to date with membership so far, double check your status though!
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# ¿ Dec 11, 2016 19:14 |
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ZeeToo posted:I'm in touch with Dr. Arbitrary now, thanks to this thread, and he's helping me get involved with my local set-up. Make sure to post updates about what you do, my enthusiasm is increased with every other person I see getting involved!
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# ¿ Dec 11, 2016 22:11 |
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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:I sent in a volunteer application to the San Diego Dems so I guess maybe I'll be getting involved possibly. This is not the way to get involved in the actual party stuff. Go to meetings and email and call people to find out what is happening and how to make your voice heard If you just want to be free labour thats fine to but you should still get to know people so you end up doing free labour for the right person anyway so still also do the other stuff
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# ¿ Dec 12, 2016 04:20 |
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Dont worry too much about it. Despite my organizing and enthusiasm i still havent gotten to a single meeting myself because my wife is still recovering from surgery and i need to care for the baby. Just get there in person when you can and dont procrastinate because who knows when a family member us gonna get themselves seriously injured apparently.
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# ¿ Dec 12, 2016 13:38 |
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How about instead of making thousands of websites someone just uses an easy platform all the local sites can use so they dont have to do their own IT, they just have to update info. Get them out of the 90s into the early 2000s
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# ¿ Dec 13, 2016 00:33 |
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Like, provide it as a service where part of the service package is pestering peopl to keep the drat thing up to date
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# ¿ Dec 13, 2016 00:38 |
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I don't know much about Clairborne - anything you could tell us about the people, the area, the demographic makeup, the cultural centers, that would be a good place to start. Still, any advice I could offer would mostly be hypothetical, so make sure to keep us informed of how things actually go. It sounds like what you're going to be trying to do here is form a sort of Democratic affiliate organization based around community organizing and empowerment, which is great! From a general perspective, here's a few pieces of advice: - Obviously, contact local Democratic party leadership and find out more information about how things are working there. - Consider doing some non-partisan advocacy to help local causes - this is a great way to get things moving. It can be done in collaboration with other groups like Churches or Freemasons or Veteran's associations, which gives you some organizing connections, and it can also be a great source of connecting with potential supporters. Basically, start by spending your time helping others in the name of your organization, and use that to build your membership. - Figure out how you plan on funding your "free" stuff. Getting some enthusiastic volunteers to make it themselves and provide is the best option, but of course that requires you to have already acquired enthusiastic volunteers! And also means you risk outstripping your suppliers if you grow too quickly or haphazardly. - Have stuff written down to refer to, about what your goals are, what you want to be. Refer to it often and make sure you don't drift too much without doing so - but don't be afraid of drift if it's in a more productive direction, just be sure to codify it if that happens.
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# ¿ Dec 14, 2016 17:34 |
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HorseRenoir posted:Here's something that's been floating around that might be of interest for this thread. Some former congressional staffers wrote a paper on how to resist Trump based on the political strategies of the Tea Party: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DzOz3Y6D8g_MNXHNMJYAz1b41_cn535aU5UsN7Lj8X8/ How can a guide spend so many words without really touching on the single most effective strategy of the tea party, without which every single thing they've proposed here falls apart? I mean, geeze, come on. There needs to be a concerted effort to challenge incumbents in safe seats during the primary, and to actually beat them. The tea party didn't succeed by begging their already elected politicians to heed their words the way this seems to ask us to do - they won by replacing enough of them to establish a power base of their own (that was basically employed to keep an eye on the others and make sure they stayed in line) and scare the rest into line lest the same happen to them. It feels like nothing they've described in this document matters without that crucial piece of leverage.
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# ¿ Dec 15, 2016 17:54 |
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Some history on political organizations for light reading: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_Party_(1960s%E2%80%931980s) quote:The Patriot Party was an American socialist organization of the late 1960s and early 1970s that organized poor, rural whites in the Appalachian South and Pacific Northwest. The party was formed after a split with the Young Patriots Organization. The YPO's membership was drawn from street gangs of Appalachian whites in the Uptown neighborhood of Chicago, Illinois; it became politicized after working with the Young Lords, an ethnic Puerto Rican gang; and the African-American Black Panther Party. These people split off from the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Patriots_Organization quote:The Young Patriots Organization was an American left-wing organization of the 1960s and 1970s. Growing out of an Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) project called Jobs Or Income Now (JOIN), its first leaders included Doug "Youngblood" Blakey, the son of Peggy Terry; Jack "Junebug" Boykin; Bobby Joe Mcginnis; William "Preacherman" Fesperman; and Hy Thurman. Originating in the Uptown neighborhood of Chicago, the organization was designed to support young, white migrants from the Appalachia region. However membership was open to all races. [1] With Fred Hampton of the Black Panther Party, José "Cha-Cha" Jiménez of the Young Lords Organization, and Katiri LaRouge of the Native American Housing Committee, the Young Patriots Organization helped to form the Rainbow Coalition (unrelated to Jesse Jackson's later Rainbow/PUSH Coalition). The group's early interactions with the Black Panthers are shown in the 1969 documentary American Revolution 2. I've actually just purchased the book that talks about them (Hillbilly Nationalists, Urban Race Rebels and Black Power: Community Organizing in Radical Times) and am looking forward to devouring it. GlyphGryph has issued a correction as of 19:32 on Dec 16, 2016 |
# ¿ Dec 16, 2016 19:17 |
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I'm going a little crazy not being able to go to any meetings or poo poo this month, I want to be out there doing poo poo. Gotta find other ways to get involved. Unfortunately, I really gotta to some actual work right now, so if one of you guys can put together the info for someone from Alpine County, CA it would be super appreciated.
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# ¿ Dec 16, 2016 19:31 |
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I'll try the Facebook, thanks. I've been thinking that what I should do, personally, is join some sort of group or platform where I can do... writing, I guess? Get the word out, start helping organize and energize beyond the confines of a dead gay comedy forum, maybe start working on some local social good programs like soup kitchens and stuff if I can find a way to make that politically relevant.
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# ¿ Dec 16, 2016 20:14 |
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HorseRenoir posted:Probably the best thing we can be doing in the short term is calling Dem party members and getting them to support Ellison, cutting the legs off of Perez's run early. Everything we're doing in this thread is for naught if we can't get a DNC chair that recognizes the value of building strong local grassroots support for the party. Reminder, this exists: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1S7w8tvS0NWA3AX8JdFjZLLAW7f_S4hp2T3416ttjBtg/edit#gid=0 Contacts list for who you should be contacting.
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# ¿ Dec 16, 2016 20:45 |
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You've said your pieces, I think this is a good place to drop it. If you want to have a more in depth discussion about it, see the Dem Thread. You both seem to agree supporting Ellison is the right course of action, even if you're reasons differ - try to stay results oriented and not end up quibbling over motivations. GlyphGryph has issued a correction as of 21:13 on Dec 16, 2016 |
# ¿ Dec 16, 2016 21:09 |
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Abrasive Obelisk posted:So what do we do when we contact? Ask to speak with the DNC official? These should be the contacts for the DNC officials. If it's not the person on the list, ask to speak with them and if you can't, pass a message. Then ask them if they are supporting Ellison, and if they aren't already ask them to do it. I'm not much of a persuasion person, so anyone with better advice can feel free to provide it.
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# ¿ Dec 16, 2016 21:12 |
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Trabisnikof posted:So to be clear, it is ok to organize for Ellison in this thread but not any other DNC candidate? If you want to suggest people do things to support Perez, that is okay. Go ahead. If you want to make a (preferably single) post about why Perez is good and people should support him, that's mostly fine too. Getting into an extended back and forth over which one of them is better is not - we have a thread for that. Refine your arguments there, condense them to a single post, and add your call to action here if you feel you must. But don't argue over stupid bullshit, and note that you are not the only one I quoted in that response. Provide the information you think is best and useful, provide more if people request, and then stop instead of risking drowning out more relevant information. From the OP: quote:If you disagree with someone, that's fine, but try to remember the point is to convince people they want to be involved, not to drive them out, so stay specific and don't draw it out. If you're not posting as part of an attempt to get people more involved and getting them to act, don't post. At least not here. GlyphGryph has issued a correction as of 21:23 on Dec 16, 2016 |
# ¿ Dec 16, 2016 21:16 |
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:Had a good talk with the chair of the Arizona Party. Her priority is 50 state strategy. She's receptive to Keith Ellison and says she's talked to him one on one. Her real issue is finding out what that actually translates to in reality. What is Keith Ellison's actual plan. Skype, GoToMeeting, Facebook, Discord. I'd definitely allow for both a software and phone-based call in method. I think the both Skype and GoToMeeting allow phones to call in to as well as software, so I'd suggest those.
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# ¿ Dec 18, 2016 02:36 |
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Grey Fox posted:Crossposting from the Dem thread: Use it as an opportunity to hook up with other people with similar concerns. Take note of who asks good questions, and approach them afterwards and talk about how something must be done, especially if Beyer turns out to be neoliberal scum. Because then you need to start getting involved in primarying the guy ASAP.
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# ¿ Dec 21, 2016 03:51 |
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Race Realists posted:looking on the OP, and i dont see any mississippi/north carolina/new orleans/tennessee goons listed There's more goons involved than have asked to be added to the OP, I've been contacted by someone in North Carolina at least.
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# ¿ Dec 21, 2016 03:52 |
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Hello everyone! I hope you enjoyed your Christmas, celebrated or not - but remember that come January, politics is going to be getting back active! December is kind of a dead month, but regular party meetings resume in many places, and the DNC election is coming up so it's a good time to get involved and a better time to stay involved. If anyone has joined or attended meetings for any Democratic affiliated but not technically Democratic organizations, feel free to talk about them here and what it was like. -- For those of you in MA, I'd like to organize an in person meetup where we can't rant against things like entrenched politics, Hillary Clinton, and spinelessness in the face of the oncoming Republican Terror among "friends". It would be happening... late January, early February, probably somewhere that serves alcohol. -- Finally, anyone who still needs info, or who I missed on getting back to or whatever, please ping me again so I can figure out what's going on. GlyphGryph has issued a correction as of 21:19 on Dec 26, 2016 |
# ¿ Dec 26, 2016 21:15 |
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Next local Democatic Town Committee meeting is planned for "mid-January". Really would prefer a bit more information than that, guys! Also going to be attending my first town meeting on January 9th. Unless I decide to go to the local DSA meeting instead I guess, since I feel like I should at least check them out even if I don't think I'll join them. For anyone interested: quote:Monday, January 9, 2017 Beyond them having some vague association with Mass Alliance, I don't really have any idea what they actually do though GlyphGryph has issued a correction as of 21:19 on Dec 28, 2016 |
# ¿ Dec 28, 2016 19:14 |
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Apparently Keith has asked that people NOT contact DNC members. So, uh - stop doing that, I guess!
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# ¿ Dec 28, 2016 21:11 |
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Zikan posted:better delete my post from your website lol Literally doing it now, haha. Although I'm pretty sure no one is ever going to look at it again.
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# ¿ Dec 28, 2016 21:39 |
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Grondoth posted:Why From what I understand it's a combination of "they got the message" and "you motherfuckers are gonna ruin this for me by sending lovely harassment to the folks whose votes I need".
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# ¿ Dec 28, 2016 22:35 |
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https://keithfordnc.org/howyoucanhelp Its been added as a note to that page on his site, at least it also comes with suggestions for other things you SHOULD be doing so its good to post anyway, thanks for prompting me too
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# ¿ Dec 28, 2016 22:58 |
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Massachussets residents: My local party group has recommended getting involved in the Progressive Mass movement. That seems like a pretty good idea to me, but I don't know much about them. Is anyone familiar with them? They are apparently growing quite quickly but still need help setting up new chapters and stuff. At the very least these "legislative scorecards" seem pretty cool. http://www.progressivemass.com/189thscorecard-senate http://www.progressivemass.com/189thscorecard-house GlyphGryph has issued a correction as of 19:12 on Dec 30, 2016 |
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