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Appearntly a ton of stuff was cut from this game's plot. And another part was turned into a movie.
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Rarity posted:I want to know more about Noctis's home kingdom. How lovely must your country be if you send your prince on a diplomatic trip to another country in a broken down car with just one bodyguard, a chef and the Official Snapchat Host and without even a debit card to get some extra money out? Is it one of those fake countries like Sealand or Luxembourg? It just got the poo poo kicked out of it in a war, they are super broke right now. From what I can tell these were the steps. Noctis Kingdom loses war badly, but manages to secure peace treaty. Part of treaties terms are that Noctis has to marry into one of the Empire's vassal states. While the final meeting about the treaty is about to happen Noct is sent to Tenebreae the vassal state to get ready for his wedding there. Noct's car breaks down on the way. Also fun fact. Regis is latin for "of the King" so King Regis is "King of the King." MonsterEnvy fucked around with this message at 09:30 on Dec 13, 2016 |
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Dec 13, 2016 09:23
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Regalingualius posted:That's weird, though: the impression I got from that lore painting at the start was that Nifelheim was still very actively at war with the protagonists' country, King King the King's barrier was the only thing keeping them out, and Noctis was being sent to marry the princess of some neighboring third party kingdom. Not that they'd already gotten their asses whooped even with the barrier. The Barrier is keeping them out of the capital. But it was the only thing keeping them safe according to the lore thing at the start. Appearntly they were getting crushed everywhere else. But now the Empire is agreeing to peace. The kingdoms coffers are likely all being spent on helping the rest of the kingdom recover. Also yes this game was rushed out the door. The events of the Movie Kingsglaive were going to be in the game originally but were cut.
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Dec 13, 2016 20:59
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Appearntly they got almost 3 years of actually working on it.
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Dec 13, 2016 21:19
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The marriage is still a good deal in the future. Noct is more or less heading there ahead of time from what I can tell. They are not in a super big hurry.
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Dec 14, 2016 21:25
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Fedule posted:Oh boy! It sure is fun to go through all that without having seen Kingsglaive. We met the villain of Kingsglaive very very briefly at the start of the game with the King. He had like maybe one or two lines.
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Jan 5, 2017 01:06
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JT Jag posted:I always interpreted that the ones that are called "Imperial Soldiers" are people and the ones that are called "Magitek Soldiers" and are several levels higher than the other enemies are robots Nope they are both robots.
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Jan 5, 2017 01:36
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Just to tell you that Radio that was interrupted was saying that Ravus. (Luna's brother and vaguely menacing guy.) Was being executed for what happened with Leviathan. Aka a guy built up as a notable villain is being killed offscreen.
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Feb 6, 2018 21:18
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Also Kingsglaive cannibalizing the game is a massive issue.
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Feb 6, 2018 21:30
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Bethamphetamine posted:Since you're heading into the empire, I'll be helpful and give you a refresher on the key players. Don't worry, there are no spoilers here. This is from a cutscene in chapter 3. Remember how important it was to be introduced to some of these characters in chapter 3? I think the first guy is maybe not dead. But I also don't think we ever seen him again. I know we don't see Who the gently caress are you/Verstael again in the main game despite supplementary material stating. He is Prompto's dad. Which is later only elaborated on in DLC released much later.
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So to make everything clear. The Emprie was making soldiers powered by Daemons. Offscreen the Imperial capital has now been overwhelmed by Daemons and everyone there is now ether dead or locked inside their house hoping they won't get killed by Daemons. Meaning that the Empire was pretty much destroyed off screen. They are no longer even guarding the MacGuffin Crystal or anything anymore, it's just filled with Daemons. Ravus the brother in law who is commander of the Imperial forces. He has met with you a few times and sort of fought you once. He hated you and seemed to be planned to be the rival. As he also apparently had his own agenda and plan to take over. He also has one of the Swords you need. Appearntly he changed his mind about disliking you and his evil plans off screen and has decided to help you instead, so he plans to give you the sword in the capital. Also it appears he is taking the fall for Levithan destroying that town and the Empire has sentenced him to death.
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So everything with Gladio and Ignis was added later. In the original you just find Ravus's corpse with no information how he died.
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Mar 8, 2018 22:31
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Also I think you skipped the entire chunk of the game were you play as Noct and find Ravus's body and the Sword. And were you fight that Empereor Deamon. (Were Noct kills him.) And the only clue in the original game that that daemon was the Emperor is that after you kill it, you hear a speech from the Emperor.
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Mar 8, 2018 22:42
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goatface posted:I don't think he was that demon, I think he was just possessing it. Probably. But it's kind of amazing what the Noctis section is like. He gets stalked by the Emperor Daemon and has to fight it off repeatedly, until he finds Ravus's corpse and gets his dads sword. After which he fights and kills the Emperor Daemon which rants about how it got the crystal and was great and stuff. MonsterEnvy fucked around with this message at 03:04 on Mar 9, 2018 |
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Mar 9, 2018 03:01
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Sydin posted:Ardyn just sort of casually tossing some printer paper on top the dead guy we never even really got to know while the dramatic music swells may potentially be the funniest thing in the game so far.  His role in the actual game. Kind of small and pathetic. Gamerofthegame posted:you know I do indeed like Ardyn's voice. Of the characters in this game he has always been fairly entertaining.
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Mar 9, 2018 04:22
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Momomo posted:I'm pretty sure at some point they also mention that the soldiers you've been fighting were manufactured people or something, don't they? It was essentially the weakest attempt to take away any morality in killing them by the dozens. Well I think we knew that MT Troopers were manufactured People with Daemons shoved in them.
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Mar 9, 2018 20:51
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Nihilarian posted:You can accidentally skip the part where you murder emporer daemon dude? Are you for real? And the part were you find Ravus's corpse and get the sword.
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Mar 10, 2018 22:48
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The main issue I have with the game is that a ton of stuff in game was turned into a movie instead. Like the Empires Top General who kills the king. Dies in the movie, as well Ravus losing his arm trying to take the power of the Kings for himself.
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Mar 11, 2018 22:07
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I mixed up events. You don't kill the Emperor as Noctis alone. You just killed the Emperor as the last fight you had.
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Mar 12, 2018 21:06
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But it's so random in the game that Prompto pops in and says. "Yo I am actually an artificial human of the same type as the Magitek Troopers."
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Mar 12, 2018 22:09
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Bruceski posted:More like he pops in and says "want to know what's going on? Buy the DLC!" Yeah but this was in the game far before the DLC came out.
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Mar 12, 2018 22:32
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But yeah there are two events in this episode that would have been major events in most other games. But here are pretty much footnotes that are not even elaborated on. First Prompto being revealed as a clone, robot thing. Second. The Battle with the Emperor and his death.
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Mar 13, 2018 03:01
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quote:Most men are born; but some are created for a special purpose—and Prompto is one such man. Artificially generated from the genes of mad scientist Verstael Besithia, he was initially intended to serve as a test subject for the empire's magitek experiments. The unstable scientist's plans wet awry, however, when a Lucian spy operating on a hot tip absconded with baby Prompto and entrusted him to a foster family in Insomnia. It's kind of amazing that this really important thing about Prompto was revealed in a guidebook or something and never brought up in the main game until the DLC. On Verstael you may remember him as the guy that sounds like Emperor Palatine from Star Wars who showed up a grand total of one time with the rest of the empire leaders.  He shows up in early FFXV trailers so I assume he was originally planned to be more important rather then a guy who shows up once then never again. The guy who Gladio and Ignis are wearing the armor of, Glauca fared similarly poorly. Showing up several times in promotional material for FFXV as a scary Darth Vaderish dude. But then he got removed from the game and only shows up once in the opening of this game (out of armor) and in the movie were he kills the king and is killed in the climax. (Or he may have survived and turned into a Daemon it's not clear.) Edit oh I missed it. Glauca also killed Luna's mother and Gladio's father too. More reason for characters in the game to have beef with him, yet he is a killed in an unrelated side event in a movie. MonsterEnvy fucked around with this message at 08:13 on Mar 14, 2018 |
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Danaru posted:I swear to god my brain refuses to take in any of the story. Didn't Prompto get replaced by a Snatcher at some point? I legit thought for a minute that Prompto scanning his barcode was outing himself as a Snatcher, followed by the party all agreeing that Snatcher-Prompto was cooler than regular Prompto. I know it's not the case because that'd actually be interesting, something this storyline refuses to be. Ardyn pretended to be him at one point and tossed him off a train.
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goatface posted:If we found him hanging there with broken legs and half his face hosed up with road rash because hitting the ground at speed loving sucks, that would be cool. No he would be in much worse shape. He fell off a cliff at high speed.
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And so Ravus's zombie is put down and Noctis gets trapped in a crystal.
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Sydin posted:So maybe I just wasn't paying attention but did we get any sense of what Noctis actually learned or improved in the 10 years he was floating in the crystal? Like is he smarter now somehow, or stronger? Because when he got attacked by demons after landing at the resort place he was just kinda swinging around his dinky sword like he was before. What exactly has he gained that will help him fulfill his destiny? Well he has the insta kill ring. But the part that taught the players how to use it was skipped by the game.
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Mar 28, 2018 04:03
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Fun fact one of the first things revealed about this games troubles was that Ardyn's final form ended up getting cut shortly before release. He was supposed to have a transformation.
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Apr 20, 2018 22:05
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I can only assume that that final scene in that strange space area was were Ardyn was going to take on his true Daemon Form and you would have had the final boss fight. But yeah it kind of shocks me that of all things to get cut from the the game, the actual final boss fight was one of them. Because of this Ardyn is the only Final Fantasy boss that does not have a second form or phase.
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The Skeleton King posted:Berseria's plot starts off pretty decent but gradually becomes shittier over time, in true long-as-gently caress-rpg fashion. I disagree pretty heavily with this view. Other then the sibling thing, but that does not happen in that game.
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FeyerbrandX posted:Wait, Gollum was an elf? I thought he was a hobbit? It's actually Emperor Iedolas. I not L
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Apr 23, 2018 23:07
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Bruceski posted:Oh, I assumed it was a capitalization screwup. My mistake. Not a big deal, like no one remembered the dudes name. He was just the Emperor or that guy that turned into a Demon and acted crazy.
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Apr 23, 2018 23:48
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There is an Episode Ardyn coming.
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Jun 5, 2018 01:52
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topiKal posted:Nah we decided we would be done after completing whatever DLC is already out whenever we finished it. Also I'm not paying any more money for this game, I already feel bad enough about buying that stupid season pass. So why are you ignoring the Ignis DLC?
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Jul 25, 2018 01:51
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Yeah it must have just not downloaded. You own it, but it did not auto download.
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Kase moch posted:As much fun as it has been to watch your suffering, it's time to put this dog down. Everyone here knows Ignis' DLC will add nothing to the story and only prolong our misery. You can change the ending
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