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Lodin posted:What was the last thing they made? The first Star Citizen trailer and that god awful Roman Gears of War for the Bone? Ryse. That game was so boring and repetetive i could barely make it through the first level, and i enjoyed The Order.
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Fame Douglas posted:Seems like they are going down on the quick! Not quick, they were on fire well over a year ago in a similar situation. I am absolutely amazed they're not dead already. Strategic Tea posted:The video games industry. Long hours, low relative pay, no job security, absurd conditions but hey at least the boss will never expect you to ~adult~ The pay is actually not all that bad but the rest is true.
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spank my snatch posted:
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Prettz posted:if they believed in the company and what it does and wanted to see it succeeded? Even though I've never worked in the game industry I can safely say that even if the company succeeds (it won't), the people who voluntarily worked without pay won't get any of the rewards.
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Dec 14, 2016 00:37
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Blazing Ownager posted:The pay is actually not all that bad but the rest is true. Relative to other programmers.
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Dec 14, 2016 00:44
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Beyond pretty graphics and sometimes fun physics, crytek has never put out a good game. It's no wonder they have no money.
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clone on the phone posted:Beyond pretty graphics and sometimes fun physics, crytek has never put out a good game. It's no wonder they have no money.
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I'm glad that cool dev moved to id Software He's like the John Carmack of modern rendering
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you mean the company that makes game engines that no one licenses is going out of business holy poo poo
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clone on the phone posted:Beyond pretty graphics and sometimes fun physics, crytek has never put out a good game. It's no wonder they have no money. Crysis was the best Predator game ever made.
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i dont give a gently caress who knows it: i loved far cry 2
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Dec 14, 2016 13:06
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Pretty sure their big thing at one point was licensing out the engine. Then everyone just kept using Unreal or went with Unity so no money from that front besides bloody Star Citizen. This list of all the games is pretty pathetic and telling. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_CryEngine_games Also lol, Sonic Boom runs on CryEngine 4. Surprised a WiiU could even handle that.
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OMGVBFLOL posted:i dont give a gently caress who knows it: i loved far cry 2 That's one horrible game, you have really bad taste. Hope you get malaria for this opinion and are all out of pills!
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Dec 14, 2016 14:24
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I thought Crysis was really drat cool before the aliens arrived. It was pretty much a deforestation simulator for me, but at the time that was really fuckin' cool
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Crysis really was a revolutionary game IMO, similar to Half-Life. They tried implementing so many interesting new concepts and managed to make some of them work well. Unfortunately they saw the COD money and tried to emulate it in Crysis 2 and beyond and failed. I honestly don't know if great single-player FPS games are viable anymore, it takes years to make and the revenue only comes from the initial sales. Compare that to COD where you release a new $60 game every year by basically copying last years version, making some tweaks, and having a great marketing team. The only way I see a single-player FPS like Half-Life 3 being viable is if Valve decides to make it as a marketing tool so people like Valve more and buy their other games. Another possibility is charging $100+ for a great single-player FPS. I know I would be willing to pay $100+ for Half-Life 3, a company just needs to grow some balls and test the market with a $100+ game.
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I am absolutely not okay with raising the floor on new releases to $100 usd
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go crytek me a river
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myDad posted:I'm glad that cool dev moved to id Software What does id do these days? Where they involved with Doom 2016? Carmack is all Occulus and rockets now iirc.
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qkkl posted:I honestly don't know if great single-player FPS games are viable anymore, it takes years to make and the revenue only comes from the initial sales. Compare that to COD where you release a new $60 game every year by basically copying last years version, making some tweaks, and having a great marketing team. The only way I see a single-player FPS like Half-Life 3 being viable is if Valve decides to make it as a marketing tool so people like Valve more and buy their other games. Another possibility is charging $100+ for a great single-player FPS. I know I would be willing to pay $100+ for Half-Life 3, a company just needs to grow some balls and test the market with a $100+ game. my man have you heard of the game called Doom that came out this year?
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I think bethesda has more or less totally absorbed id but yeah iirc id still makes them quake con has been total poo poo since they got bought though
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If my company had failed to pay me for more than two weeks I'd be contacting a goddamn lawyer because it's a massive red flag that poo poo is about to hit the wall. If you don't act first, everyone else will be suing them and you'll never see your money. If you're first to smack them upside the head with a lawyer and threaten to make a huge amount of noise, they'll pay you what they owe just to shut you up and stop you rocking the boat. Poor old gaming programmers are getting punched in the face with some 'just world' fallacy - "Oh, if I do the right thing and keep working really, really hard, things will certainly work out. And I'm sure the company will not only pay me everything they owe me, but maybe throw in something extra, too! They'll certainly appreciate everything I'm doing and all my sacrifices." Someone once called it "meat and veg morality" and it will get you hosed so hard in this world. The poor programmers will still be believing in the value of sacrifice and hard work and loyalty while the execs stuff duffel bags full of cash into their half million dollar luxury cars and laugh all the way home. Megillah Gorilla fucked around with this message at 15:14 on Dec 14, 2016 |
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lol if you have loyalty to a company that doesn't pay you
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LordArgh posted:lol if you have loyalty to a company that doesn't pay you Haha this for real. "I believe in their vision." *Adds anatomically correct mesh and texture to watch_dogs2 npc_fe_citizens vagina.*
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basic hitler posted:quake con has been total poo poo since they got bought though This. The vendor rooms used to be cool showcases of VIA with super overclocked poo poo and new tech. Also in mesquite which is lol.
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i still have the t-shirt i got from playing the left 4 dead demo in 2007, which i used as a pillow in the byoc between meeting up with friends in a nearby seedy motel room to hit a bong and drink stolen beer. That was almost 10 years ago gently caress.
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Lodin posted:Pretty sure their big thing at one point was licensing out the engine. Then everyone just kept using Unreal or went with Unity so no money from that front besides bloody Star Citizen.
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LordArgh posted:lol if you have loyalty to a company that doesn't pay you lol if you have loyalty to a company that DOES pay you. Regardless of how much you do over and above the requirements of the job, a company will dump your rear end in a heartbeat if the bean counters say it's of benefit to the company. Don't get me wrong, integrity and work ethic are GOOD things. While you are working for a company, putting in a good effort over the time you are employed and doing the best job you can is laudable, and what you should be doing. However, "loyalty" is completely irrelevant bullshit, which is something you'll hopefully learn the first time you hear the phrase "nothing personal, it's just business" after having put in months/years of unpaid overtime.
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qkkl posted:. I know I would be willing to pay $100+ for Half-Life 3, a company just needs to grow some balls and test the market with a $100+ game. Die (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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qkkl if you're some loving activision or EA executive testing the waters with your brilliant idea i just want you to know i will see the earth beneath your office razed and salted before I ever pay $100 for a video game.
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also, horse armor proves that DLC will never take off
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Fame Douglas posted:That's one horrible game, you have really bad taste. Hope you get malaria for this opinion and are all out of pills! the setting and enemy AI were so cool that it just completely overrode everything else. I loved the dingy, rusty African failed state setting. It was a huge gamble in an era when literally every other FPS was trying to be Saving Private Ryan: The Game. And the way the enemies fanned out into cover and flanked you felt really authentic and unnerving; it made stealth its own reward. The fire effects and action-movie battlefield surgery were cool as hell too. I get that it took way too many gambles with gameplay and style to have broad appeal, but idgaf because i liked all the weird poo poo they did on topic tho: lmao at continuing to show up for work after even one paycheck doesn't show up
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basic hitler posted:qkkl if you're some loving activision or EA executive testing the waters with your brilliant idea i just want you to know i will see the earth beneath your office razed and salted before I ever pay $100 for a video game. I would be ok paying $100 for games that were truly premium products. Unfortunately what would actually happen it would just be $100 for Bethesda level writing or the next Babby's First game by Blizzard, so I'm not a fan of the idea.
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Let me tell you why I was moved to tears by the artistry and plot of Shadow of the Colossus *has unchecked and rampant mental illness
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Blazing Ownager posted:The pay is actually not all that bad but the rest is true. In my experience it depends on wther you're a graphics artist or programmer, programmers get way more..
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spank my snatch posted:
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Gaben should just go the Wu-tang route and make Half-life 3 but put it up for auction to the highest bidder so Shkrelli can buy it. Imagine all those nerd tears.
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I'd like to note that I just played through crysis for the first time in years just a few months ago, and not only does it still hold up great, it still looks absolutely loving gorgeous. The grass and leaf textures are a bit lower res than in recent games, but otherwise it still looks fantastic. Considerably better than far cry 3.
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Hi, I just wanted to say that this is a hell of a good thread title and an interesting thread. Also if your paycheck is late by more than a day, steal everything that isn't nailed down, and if you're lucky enough to steal a hammer steal the nailed down stuff too.
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clone on the phone posted:Beyond pretty graphics and sometimes fun physics, crytek has never put out a good game. It's no wonder they have no money. FarCry and Crysis were fun when you were skulking around islands having jungle gunfights with soldiers. The problem is that during the planning meetings, when that one guy stood up and said "WE NEED MUTANTS AND ALIENS THAT KILL YOU INSTANTLY AND TAKE 9000 ROUNDS TO DIE", they actually listened to him instead of throwing pens at him and telling him to go away.
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I had forgotten about the mutants in far cry and that part of the game is maybe the least fun ive ever had in a video game.
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