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That was fun. Issues with pacing, but Star Wars was never well written, so nobody in their right mind should be complaining. Especially after the other prequels.Palpek posted:Also they killed a sea of stormtroopers. I actually started feeling bad for them, rebels are a bunch of maniacs. Does a stormtrooper armor do anything? They were getting killed with a stick here. Some of the stormtroopers who got whooped with the stick were visibly moving afterward. Probably realized they just got taken to school by a blind guy and were waiting for him to leave so they could escape with their lives.
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The blind guy I can understand because he was set up to be this kung fu master who could probably channel force into those hits but the protagonist wasn't really and she too was owning them with a club. I thought those helmets would be at least protecting against basic stuff like that but it's like they're wearing nothing at all.
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Palpek posted:The blind guy I can understand because he was set up to be this kung fu master who could probably channel force into those hits but the protagonist wasn't really and she too was owning them with a club. I thought those helmets would be at least protecting against basic stuff like that but it's like they're wearing nothing at all. Stupid sexy stormtroopers.
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Tenzarin posted:I dont get why people are mad about the darth vader puns? Tell me about it, its perfectly in character. Some people just hate fun. Palpek posted:The blind guy I can understand because he was set up to be this kung fu master who could probably channel force into those hits but the protagonist wasn't really and she too was owning them with a club. I thought those helmets would be at least protecting against basic stuff like that but it's like they're wearing nothing at all. They're considerably more alive than if they took the beating unarmored, I reckon.
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Rogue One is a good movie and definitely better than The Force Awakens.
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Empress Brosephine posted:my problem was with darth vaders walk. he was slow and menacing iirc in the ot now he walks like he's 20 He just walks like a regular dude in the opening of A New Hope
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honestly stormtrooper armor being lovely makes perfect sense with what we know about the empire imo it's probably mass-produced garbage (like tie fighters, which are strictly inferior to the fighters the alliance uses) because the empire is about soulless industrial militarism, and it's important for them to look intimidating and project power even if they're inept and lovely soldiers because the empire is fascist (so the look means more than the functionality)
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Just got back in from seeing it and it was ok. Like, yeah, it's a film set in the star wars universe doing Star Warry things, but it just didn't seem to have the gravity it was trying to have with the tragic main characters that i really didn't give a poo poo about. It was obvious it was trying to play up the doomed heroes who's sole act is what allows the galaxy to be saved thing, but it's like we didn't really have enough time to get to know the characters to really care when they bit it. In fact, that's the major problem, other than blind non-jedi and the sassy android the others are just bland, almost interchangeable, cogs used to move the plot along. All the film has really done is put me in the mood to go back and play Halo: Reach. It's basically the same plot with different McGuffins but with enough badass setpieces to make me give a gently caress about the characters as they die off one by one. In fact, the bloody trailer evokes more tragedy than Rogue One did https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_04E6IkcUQ CGI Tarkin/Leia were also quite jarring. I thought Disney made Tron, did they have the B team in to do the human animation or something? Their movements and animation were like something out of Star Wars Rebels. Kin fucked around with this message at 01:18 on Dec 23, 2016 |
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The score was a major weakpoint. You can make me care about just about anything with a good score.
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i kept falling asleep during it i was in and put during most of it maybe ill try to see it again but idk it was pretty boring
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You might have diabetes, and be in need of an insulin shot.
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actually i had some bloodwork done not too long ago so i think i would know if that was the case.
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Shbobdb posted:The score was a major weakpoint. You can make me care about just about anything with a good score. I wonder if that's a big part of why people give the characters a big "meh". Star Wars movies typically have a fantastic score, this was mediocre.
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Tenzarin posted:I dont get why people are mad about the darth vader puns? Seriously. Vader is Super McCoolguy Edgelord Supreme. He is literally a character a 12 year old boy would create when asked or inspired to make just the coolest and most badass character ever. Of course he's gonna make some loving puns. He's so drat cool, you guys! Yorkshire Tea posted:Stupid sexy stormtroopers.  Halo: Reach guy is right btw.
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what's the odds that the people saying 'pfft, these characters are so flat who cares about the film ending' would be posting 'wow, way to kill absolutely everyone and waste all that time on characters who would just die anyway'
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Milky Moor posted:what's the odds that the people saying 'pfft, these characters are so flat who cares about the film ending' would be posting 'wow, way to kill absolutely everyone and waste all that time on characters who would just die anyway' Very low. Most people can like tragic hero stories as long as they have good characters. Sarcastic robot = was funny and emotive, got a lot of laughs out of the audience = was sad when he died. Not-Han Solo = Generic Broody McBrood man, = not sad at either of his deaths. Generic white female daughter protagonist = Cared so little for her i don't remember her name = not even forced 'romancy shots' with her and Not-Han Solo could make me sad for her dying. The pilot = So generic a character that i can't remember if they even gave him a name. = Plugged in a cable and died. Yawn. The Blind-Not Jedi = was pretty badass and showed a fair bit of character = his home was destroyed, his Blind (get it, he's blind) faith guided him, his death was sad. Mr Blaster = again, a character defined by his one thing, he shot a gun and had a thing on his back = his death was only sad because he was Not-Jedi's friend. I can't even remember if there were any other 'main' characters who are even worth remembering. Kin fucked around with this message at 16:42 on Dec 23, 2016 |
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I can't wait to see this movie so it can help me fall asleep on a long distance flight a few months from now, like The Force Awakens did.
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I liked the climax where she pushed a button.
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I thought not jedi was mr blasters brother
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I kinda want to see the movie all the shots from the trailer that weren't in the film were from
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Kin posted:Very low. Most people can like tragic hero stories as long as they have good characters. It's actually very high, if Halo Reach is your cultural touchstone for tragic scifi, lmao
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I liked the couple of body horror scenes in the movie: Vader's decapitated body in the tank and the mind-reading penis monster. They were shot in a way that I didn't expect Star Wars to use. The paranoid extremist rebel leader was also cool with his oxygen mask: on one hand they were invoking Vader's breathing early and on the other it was creepy in itself and I was getting some Blue Velvet vibes from it.
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Palpek posted:I was getting some Blue Velvet vibes from it. I turned to my wife the first time Guerrero huffed some air and whispered "Baby wants to fuuuck" and ruined the scene for her and maybe my marriage. I gave in to the dark side 
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Palpek posted:I liked the couple of body horror scenes in the movie: Vader's decapitated body in the tank and the mind-reading penis monster. They were shot in a way that I didn't expect Star Wars to use. The paranoid extremist rebel leader was also cool with his oxygen mask: on one hand they were invoking Vader's breathing early and on the other it was creepy in itself and I was getting some Blue Velvet vibes from it. Speaking of, before the camera focused on him in the cell, did anyone else mistake the pilot's black goggles for giant skull holes? I was expecting everyone to huddle to get his attention, he turns his head and looks braindead, and everyone freaking out.
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got any sevens posted:Blue velvet has darth vader? Lynch was tapped as a potential director for Empire IIRC
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Fabricated posted:Apparently stormtroopers can kill people so long as they skip using their rifles and just clumsily throw or accidentally drop grenades. They should've used this critical battle data in the rest of the movies. Canonically one of them actually said that in basic training and they had him taken out behind the shed and shot for defeatism unbecoming a representative of the Empire. I'm not joking, this literally happened in the EU. (okay not literally it was actually "why don't we have the giant walkers kneel down so the rebels can't fly landspeeders between their legs" but still though)
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Improbable Lobster posted:It's actually very high, if Halo Reach is your cultural touchstone for tragic scifi, lmao A bar Rogue One didn't even reach.
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Kin posted:A bar Rogue One didn't even reach. Press X to pay your respects
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Improbable Lobster posted:Press X to pay your respects Press square to make a new Star Wars film.
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How did 3cpo and r2-d2 get on the ship at the end? Didn't they watch all the x-wings take off?
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Tenzarin posted:How did 3cpo and r2-d2 get on the ship at the end? Didn't they watch all the x-wings take off? They watched the X-Wings take off but not the bigger ships. Presumably they were brought on with Leia.
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Improbable Lobster posted:They watched the X-Wings take off but not the bigger ships. Presumably they were brought on with Leia. Yea but the ships all got to the place at the same time. A transport went down and got them then boarded the battle fleet? At that point why would they go back for 2 droids?
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Tenzarin posted:How did 3cpo and r2-d2 get on the ship at the end? Didn't they watch all the x-wings take off? The fleet got halfway to the target and then Leia said "Aw, poo poo, I knew I was forgetting something," so they had to turn around and get the droids.
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Only the last third of the movie was any good. Most of it was jumping around from place to place for no reason. CGI Tarkin was creepy. The Spanish/Latino guy was uninteresting, and I didn't believe his "I've done bad things in the name of the Rebellion" bullshit. Didn't really believe any of the main characters motivations. Except Donnie Yen. He was the most interesting character. Woulda liked to see him disappear like Obi-wan. Felt like a Marvel movie just like the other one except less polished. Would have been better on drugs. barkbell fucked around with this message at 00:24 on Dec 26, 2016 |
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Saw it for the second time. Tarkin looks much better in IMAX 3D as opposed to Real 3D.
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Improbable Lobster posted:Lynch was tapped as a potential director for Empire IIRC Yeah it's interesting, way Lynch describes it he was never actually interested in directing it but met with Lucas anyways because he admired him https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJQ4vCu-S0U
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Saw it for the second time tonight. First viewing I was entertained and enjoyed it as much as, possibly more than TFA. Mainly because of the third/final act. Second viewing its flaws definitely are more glaring and detract a lot from the movie. Lackluster score (seriously when the two star destroyers crash into each other is one of the most exciting and satisfying moments of the entire movie and the music that accompanies it is a limp rendition of the forgettable Rogue One theme.) Mostly uninteresting characters with arcs and motivations that were either weak or nonexistent. Overall a competent movie that will go down in history as absolutely no one's most or least favorite Star Wars movie.
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KyloWinter posted:The Spanish/Latino guy was uninteresting, and I didn't believe his "I've done bad things in the name of the Rebellion" bullshit. We're introduced to his character just as he does one of these bad things in the name of the rebellion by murdering that guy he just screwed over. Then you have him taking secret assassination orders later. It's right there in the film clear as day.
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ApexAftermath posted:We're introduced to his character just as he does one of these bad things in the name of the rebellion by murdering that guy he just screwed over. Then you have him taking secret assassination orders later. It's right there in the film clear as day. When I saw it again, he pauses after he kills the guy too. Making it believable that he came to terms with it there. The guy was yelling the plans that there was a pilot that knew what is and how to maybe stop the death star, that guy was gonna die to someone.
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