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GobiasIndustries posted:I feel like it'll be way easier and more enjoyable for Sessions to focus on his true calling, which is being a massive racist. You know who likes to smoke weed? Black people. You know who Jeff Sessions really doesn't like? Black people. An atom of weed on the body of a minority will be cause for a lynching, provided the police leave enough of a body to string up.
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hey america a fascist is taking power america: yawn who cares hey they might ban weed again america: oh my god it can't be true, this is devastating
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Dec 17, 2016 07:30
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idk whatll happen with weed but lmao at people yammering on about the "optics" of the gop fighting against States Rights and shutting down the weed stores. absolutely nothing matters to GOP voters other than aggressively attacking minorities and making liberals sad. Milo just needs to post a youtube video about how smoking weed illegally is cool and only cucks + sjws want to legalize weed and boom, any republican pothead resistance is gone and nobody has a problem with any of it.
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Yinlock posted:hey america a fascist is taking power this but genuinely happening, because that's what's loving happening
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slouch posted:idk whatll happen with weed but lmao at people yammering on about the "optics" of the gop fighting against States Rights and shutting down the weed stores. absolutely nothing matters to GOP voters other than aggressively attacking minorities and making liberals sad. Milo just needs to post a youtube video about how smoking weed illegally is cool and only cucks + sjws want to legalize weed and boom, any republican pothead resistance is gone and nobody has a problem with any of it. It would lose them Colorado, legalization is super popular here because; In February 2015, the state of Colorado reported that tax collection figures for 2014, the first year of legal commercial sales, reached a total of $44 million from recreational marijuana with a further $32 million collected from fees on the industry and pre-existing taxes on medical marijuana.[57] These sales and excise tax figures do not include the corporate and personal income taxes generated by businesses and employees working in the state's marijuana industry.[58] The state Department of Revenue reported that official sales of recreational and medical marijuana from dispensaries reached over $996 million in 2015; a $297 million increase from the $699 million sold in 2014. The 2015 sales alone generated $135 million of tax revenue, $35 million of which are being used for the Education Center construction projects. Colorado is also unique because it's not a 50/50 swing state, it's 1/3rd dem, 1/3rd gop, 1/3rd indepdent, and a lot of the republicans and independents tend to skew libertarian.
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Dec 17, 2016 12:18
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zen death robot posted:Sessions thought the KKK was alright until he found out they smoked pot. exactly, here's the thing: the trump administration picking a fight with legal weed would be one of the worst decisions they could make, right? therefore they are going to do it edit: if you are counting on jeff sessions not to be an idiot then i have this deed to a tower at 57th and 5th in NYC to sell you...
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Dec 17, 2016 20:20
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No it won't. I would have thought Trump's election would have shattered an illusions of competence people still had for the Democratic party. They'll just continue to ignore it and otherwise throw roadblocks in the way. Sort of like after legal marijuana passed in MA, the first thing the Democratically-controlled state house did was do everything within their power to delay implementation and up the "legal age limit" for smoking as high as possible.
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Dec 17, 2016 21:03
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Yeah as stupid as it would be for the Republicans most Dems want it illegal too so there is going to be opposition to seizing the moment. They might pull it off, but betting on Dem competence is risky business.
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Dec 17, 2016 23:37
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The ballot measure explicitly said "21" so the very first thing they did was amend it to be 25. They also delayed making selling legal to 2018, so for now, it's legal to smoke and possess marijuana in Massachusetts, but not to purchase it. Edit 2: Never mind, that article was poorly written. They haven't increased the tax, they're only threatening to, and the 12.5% figure is combining sales tax and excise tax. Xenoveritas has issued a correction as of 23:44 on Dec 17, 2016 |
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Dec 17, 2016 23:38
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I admit I'm always puzzled just how severe opposition to legalization has been in the legislature. I mean if this policy is so popular grass-roots campaigns are able to build themselves up and get people voting yes you'd think there would be some incentive for our representatives to put up their own initiatives to a vote but somehow that just isn't happening. How can there be such a disconnect between what people want and their elected government is willing to do? There's hardly even any organized opposition to speak of, almost no real money is being put up against legalization
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Dec 17, 2016 23:51
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The democratic administration just pushed through rescheduling hemp oil to schedule 1 nationally, and a great many democrats are saying they would be willing to work with Trump on shared interests. There is no way the Democrats are going to criticize Trump or Sessions if they kick the drug war into a higher gear
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Dec 17, 2016 23:54
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can someone connected please tell Mr. Sessions that weed is cool, that it gets you high and makes you feel good?
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Dec 17, 2016 23:56
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Squalid posted:I admit I'm always puzzled just how severe opposition to legalization has been in the legislature. I mean if this policy is so popular grass-roots campaigns are able to build themselves up and get people voting yes you'd think there would be some incentive for our representatives to put up their own initiatives to a vote but somehow that just isn't happening. How can there be such a disconnect between what people want and their elected government is willing to do? There's hardly even any organized opposition to speak of, almost no real money is being put up against legalization Hatred of black people and the left wing overwhelming all other concerns. Same as it ever was.
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Dec 17, 2016 23:57
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Squalid posted:I admit I'm always puzzled just how severe opposition to legalization has been in the legislature. I mean if this policy is so popular grass-roots campaigns are able to build themselves up and get people voting yes you'd think there would be some incentive for our representatives to put up their own initiatives to a vote but somehow that just isn't happening. How can there be such a disconnect between what people want and their elected government is willing to do? There's hardly even any organized opposition to speak of, almost no real money is being put up against legalization What are you talking about, the most money in Massachusetts was spent on advertising for ... well, charter schools, actually (at $26.8 million). Legal marijuana only had $4.9 million spent on it while the oppose side spent a whopping ... $158,000. (Also from that article, Question 1 had a total of $50 spent against it and $1.1 million for. Final results for that question? 61% against, 39% for. Probably because Question 1 was "gently caress the city of Revere, I wanna build a casino.")
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Dec 18, 2016 00:00
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GlyphGryph posted:The democratic administration just pushed through rescheduling hemp oil to schedule 1 nationally, and a great many democrats are saying they would be willing to work with Trump on shared interests. It's not really the Obama administration, the DEA has its own regulatory powers.
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Dec 18, 2016 00:09
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Democrats could run on "Literally Trump But Legal Weed" in 2020 and win
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:Democrats could run on "Literally Trump But Legal Weed" in 2020 and win They probably wont though, they dont want to win THAT bad
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Dec 18, 2016 00:34
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I literally do not understand why the legislature/politicians are so against legalization but GlyphGryph's answer of "gently caress black people and the left wing" seems like a pretty good explanation so gently caress the Democrats. I wish the DSA was an actual political party.
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Dec 18, 2016 02:17
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Politicians are old and there's a huge age divide with opinions on weed. Also the law enforcement and prison guard unions are pretty influential. Governor Dayton in MN just flat out said he'd defer to whatever law enforcement told him to do on the subject.
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Dec 18, 2016 02:21
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zen death robot posted:Sessions thought the KKK was alright until he found out they smoked pot. his name is jefferson beauregard sessions the third he's like a confederacy homonculous
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Dec 18, 2016 02:24
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Keith Ellison is pro-decriminalizing at the least, he said people shouldn't be locked up b/c of weed, if Trump does act on it and he's controlling DNC messaging we might see opposition.
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Dec 18, 2016 03:14
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If Bernie or a Bernie-Approved Candidate run in 2020 they will definitely include legalization in their platform, Keith and Bernie both recognize that cannabis prohibition is a huge CJ/racial issue.
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Dec 18, 2016 03:16
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Fallen Hamprince posted:his name is jefferson beauregard sessions the third he's a disgrace to the name beauregard https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCkfdxynBro
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MaxxBot posted:Politicians are old and there's a huge age divide with opinions on weed. Also the law enforcement and prison guard unions are pretty influential. Governor Dayton in MN just flat out said he'd defer to whatever law enforcement told him to do on the subject. This seems plausible but I don't know how much law enforcement and prison guards are actually doing to fight legalization, certainly they're not putting money down. Dayton's response seems like the most typical; politicians want to keep the status quo, but above all else they REALLY don't want to have to take a firm position. Any excuse to pass the buck.
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Dec 18, 2016 04:21
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"No pills, no powders. Anything that grows from Mother Gaia is fine." - a woke politician
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Dec 18, 2016 06:26
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Trumps Baby Hands posted:"No pills, no powders. Anything that grows from Mother Gaia is fine." - a woke politician *sips on some belladonna tea*
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Trumps Baby Hands posted:"No pills, no powders. Anything that grows from Mother Gaia is fine." - a woke politician ayahuasca for everyone
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Dec 18, 2016 09:59
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I think in time it will be revealed that Sessions actually possesses the dankest nugs ever known to mankind. much in the same way that vehemently anti-gay senators are always the ones diddling little boys on their "vacations" to the Philippines.
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Dec 18, 2016 16:46
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PromethiumX posted:I think in time it will be revealed that Sessions actually possesses the dankest nugs ever known to mankind.
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Dec 18, 2016 17:28
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zen death robot posted:The good news? It'll force the democrats to actually take a stance on it for the midterms and 2020 when it pisses a lot of people off and becomes a wedge issue. lmao that it isnt social or economic issues that galvanizes democrats to loving get their poo poo together  well i suppose marijuana legalization falls under both jurisdiction so thats killin two birds with one stone 
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PromethiumX posted:I think in time it will be revealed that Sessions actually possesses the dankest nugs ever known to mankind. Anime Schoolgirl posted:nah these people are the kind of people who deal in black tar heroin and seizure-causing synthetics and bath salts while trying to bring about death penalties for weed and hemp oil
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Squalid posted:This seems plausible but I don't know how much law enforcement and prison guards are actually doing to fight legalization, certainly they're not putting money down. Dayton's response seems like the most typical; politicians want to keep the status quo, but above all else they REALLY don't want to have to take a firm position. Any excuse to pass the buck.
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Squalid posted:This seems plausible but I don't know how much law enforcement and prison guards are actually doing to fight legalization, certainly they're not putting money down. https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/04/28/how-for-profit-prisons-have-become-the-biggest-lobby-no-one-is-talking-about/ cca alone spent about a million this year on lobbying
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Trumps Baby Hands posted:stand outside an uncle ikes in seattle and watch as people constantly filter in and out from 8:00am to 11:45pm, seven days a week, buying tons and tons of taxed-to-hell overpriced weed. they've already opened two more locations and are on the way to becoming a franchise. at this point it would be like raiding a starbucks one of those new locations is directly across the street from another weed store and that seems kinda hosed up to me
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Dec 19, 2016 01:52
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I think it'd be funny if Trump legalized it and pissed off/confused everyone.
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Dec 19, 2016 02:19
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386-SX 25Mhz VGA posted:the ag is going to crack down and legal weed is gone, you dumbasses forgot what it was like pre-obama It's much easier to keep worms in a can if they're already in there.
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Mr.Unique-Name posted:one of those new locations is directly across the street from another weed store and that seems kinda hosed up to me yeah, the "starbucks" comparison is intentional. it only took two years of it being legal before a corporate chain rose up to snuff out all ma and pa weed stores with it's fancy website/app and cute  that was Obama's America  so yeah, maybe in Trump's America things will go so haywire that the feds starts doing busts of dispensaries again like the days of old. however, I remember the videos of Bush's men kicking down doors of sketchy looking MMJ shops in run down shopping malls with the bars on the windows. It'd be a much different optics to have social media flooded with vids of DEA guys helicoptering in, breaking into classy storefronts, and arresting a bunch of college kids working a counter to supplement their student loans while businessmen, grandmas, and a confused group of Japanese tourists look on ultimately Trump is a money guy, and that green talks. I don't think that his appointing cranky racist old dude to AG is going to be the bullet that kills an extremely well-established and entrenched multi-million dollar business Trumps Baby Hands has issued a correction as of 03:17 on Dec 19, 2016 |
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Trumps Baby Hands posted:yeah, the "starbucks" comparison is intentional. it only took two years of it being legal before a corporate chain rose up to snuff out all ma and pa weed stores with it's fancy website/app and cute See, where you see a multi million dollar business Sessions sees a continuing criminal enterprise. They don't even need to raid the dispensaries, they just need to subpoena the state governments.
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Ace of Baes posted:It's much easier to keep worms in a can if they're already in there. Also support for legalization is way higher now than it was then, as much as people insist that this doesn't matter.
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Trumps Baby Hands posted:ultimately Trump is a money guy, and that green talks. I don't think that his appointing cranky racist old dude to AG is going to be the bullet that kills an extremely well-established and entrenched multi-million dollar business You're putting a lot of faith in Trump not being sold on this as a way to punish states that didn't vote for him and are, arguably, ignoring his authority as President of the United States. That being said, the GOP going all-in on marijuana legalization could be a brilliant strategic move to completely torpedo the DNC's chances. The libertarian wing of the GOP would be all over it, and as support for it is generally higher, it's possible they could get other wings on board. Of course, this requires the DNC to be a credible threat. And the DNC isn't going to be a credible threat - not in 2018, probably not in 2020, and therefore realistically not until 2024 at the earliest. And with another decade of gerrymandering, probably not even then, either.
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