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Spoeank
Jul 16, 2003

That's a nice set of 11 dynasty points there, it would be a shame if 3 rings were to happen with it
$72,000,000 lmao




Friends,
I'm sorry to say but I cannot and will not be watching any more football this season (although I haven't been doing much since the Hill debacle) and I do not think I will be watching any more for a very long time. You see, I've been forcing myself to follow my old sport even after the Chiefs abandoned me. It's mostly due to loyalty and tradition; I like watching the sport after all. I even chose to follow the Jaguars for a season to keep my flagging football interests alive. No affront to them (I still believe a 10-6 season is on the horizon after Gus Bradley was fired! Bortles will be top ten for sure!) but my heart wasn't in it. Even when I do arrive here on this forum and watch football while posting, I cannot keep my righteous anger over the drafting of Tyreek Hill at bay. This may surprise you but your friend Parm has a little bit of a temper sometimes :) I should have quit the sport the moment Hill was drafted but I held on naively, like a drat fool, hoping the best would happen and that Justice would prevail. All of you who called me out on this were correct. Thank you for your honesty. I will definitely appreciate it.

Truly, the NFL has made it clear that it is no longer for me. Every year that goes by, another team falls off the list of respectable teams and another abuser gets signed for mega-bucks. It's hard to keep cheering for such a sport as I get older and older. I always assumed my team would be clear and they would learn the lesson of Jovan Belcher but John Dorsey and Andy Reid forgot that. So did the fans. I'll never forgive people for cheering his name in Arrowhead. I can't abide by it. If I don't make a stand, I'll be justifying anything while football just becomes fouler and fouler. It's enough to have ten evil teams but now there's going to be at least fifteen here before too long. What happens if there's twenty? I'm not standing by to find out. So, this is it: I am officially finishing my posting career in TFF and my football fandom altogether. We've had some good times, my dear friends, but I need to leave for the well-being of my own psyche.

Before I go, however, I have some more to say. As the most controversial poster in this forum, I must resolve some hanging issues:
1. My posting was never a gimmick. I have never posted with a gimmick and I never will. I post sincerely and without irony about issues I care quite a bit about and I always have. I might be wrong about some things (and Lord knows I have been) but I always post from the heart. I admit that I have "trolled" some people before so as to create some laughs but I have never ascribed to a gimmick style. In fact, I consider all the desperate posters chasing after me to accuse me of gimmicking to be gimmick posting themselves. Truly disappointing.
2. My evil team's list is real and fair and I respect and admire anyone else who creates their own. It will be different than mine and as long as you can justify it, then it's just as valid. I would ask my friends to always consider a list of teams and players they personally despise on an ethical level as that's the simplest and most basic form of sports fandom.
3. There are certain arguments with regards to my old team that I refused to engage in. One is the fallacy that every team probably has a bad player on it so just stop caring. I would hate to be so cynical. The second involves the biggest Chiefs tragedy of all time: Jovan Belcher. Some dastardly posters tried to troll me using that awful event and I hope they are ashamed of themselves for doing so. I avoided this argument because it was, uh, bad and not much fun to talk about, you know? The answer was always pretty simple and obvious but certain posters engaged in bad faith arguments with attempts to "get" me so I'll handle it now and forever. Scott Pioli handled the Jovan Belcher situation as best he could by giving a moment of silence to the victims of domestic violence and setting up a fund for Belcher's orphan. This is clear and obvious.
4. Alex Smith is still bottom five in the league and that's always been true and I've always been right about it.

If you would like to keep in touch with me, please know that I will be on SA still. I'm thinking about seriously getting into the NBA (a much more Just sport) so you might even see me in those threads. My Twitter handle is @lakdifflanchzed (it's an old account named after my first D&D character so lay off ). I'll not be giving off my facebook or my tumblr at this time. In the meantime, I intend to find another thing to channel my hobby energy into.

Perhaps a day may come when I begin posting again. A lot of things have to change but I don't think football will be around in any real good state for much longer. It's going to be like NASCAR pretty soon. Goodell will see to that. If I am to return, the following things must happen:
1. Goodell is fired and a new GM willing to punish players and teams for actual misdeeds and not hosed up socks or whatever. Maybe someone who's not a lovely owner shill?
2. Andy Reid, John Dorsey, Tyreek Hill and Alex Smith are no longer in the league in any serious way.
3. Ben Roethlisberger, James Harrison, John Elway, Tom Brady, Bill Belichick, Jameis Winston, Frank Clark, Adrian Peterson, Dorial-Green Beckham, Terrell Suggs, Aqib Talib, TJ Ward, Dan Synder, Jeremy Hill, and probably several others I'm forgetting at the moment must also be removed from the league and from league history. Ray Rice, Josh Brown, Greg Hardy and Perrish Cox need to remain exiled for life.
4. For gently caress's sake take OJ's loving bust out of the hall goddamn it's not that hard to just put the thing in a loving wheelbarrow and just push it out the back and into a ravine

Once I am satisfied with the state of the NFL I will perhaps return. It seems unlikely and I doubt even then I'll have the time to care. Time moves on after all and so must I. There are many good posters here and I'll always treasure the memories I have. Rams/Hawks 7-9 bowl? Amazing. Steeler fan meltdowns? Can't forget it. But it's time to leave for me. I wish that take this one thing away from this thread: Always stand up for Justice in whichever way you think you can. Never give in to cynicism and forlorn acceptance. If you truly care about something, then you must care. I have deeply cared for football and will probably do so for a time yet. I wished that it would become the force for change that I knew it could be. I was disappointed but instead of hanging on out of habit, I will move on and find something I can care about guilt-free. If you care as I do, then maybe it's time to stand up for the sport and demand better as I have done for the past however many years.

Please feel free to have a discussion about some of the finer points that I've brought up tonight. Evil teams, the fate of football, gently caress Alex Smith. Whatever you guys want. Go for it.
Thank you all and Happy Holidays!

P.S. Intruder you can keep doing my toxxes if you want but don't feel obligated anymore. I know probating people makes you uncomfortable so I won't ask it of you any more. You're free, Genie.

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Spoeank
Jul 16, 2003

That's a nice set of 11 dynasty points there, it would be a shame if 3 rings were to happen with it
oh also this dude really likes the Chargers

https://www.facebook.com/kim.cruz003/videos/10211807527170721/

Intruder
Mar 5, 2003

Tom Savage makes $600k so the Texans are spending $18m on a QB this season, let's see if they get $18m in performance from Savage :q:

Vhak lord of hate
Jun 6, 2008

I AM DRINK THE BLOOD OF JESUS
Washington Racist Names are 6-27 in their last 33 primetime games.

Blitz of 404 Error
Sep 19, 2007

Joe Biden is a top 15 president

Vhak lord of hate posted:

Washington Racist Names are 6-27 in their last 33 primetime games.

They're in the NFC East, so that's like 3 seasons

JIZZ DENOUEMENT
Oct 3, 2012

STRIKE!
What the gently caress is that wall of text

CyberPingu
Sep 15, 2013


If you're not striving to improve, you'll end up going backwards.

Industrial Meat Package posted:

What the gently caress is that wall of text

Parms greatest gimmick post to date

a neat cape
Feb 22, 2007

Aw hunny, these came out GREAT!

lmao

LiquidFriend
Apr 5, 2005

The Chiefs are probably going to win out, because Denvers Offense is looking forward to a 2017 with better blocking and San Diego is looking forward to LA.

Chiefs beat Texans on the road and get shithoused in New England for the 2nd year in a row. Alex Smith sucks.

Intruder
Mar 5, 2003

The Chiefs didn't even beat Brock

LiquidFriend
Apr 5, 2005

The Texans game will be one they will win unexpectedly and fans will have hope until Tom Brady passes allover them.

JJ Watt did a pretty good job disrupting that first game.

Kawalimus
Jan 17, 2008

Better Living Through Birding And Pessimism
I just woke up and found that the Redskins did lose...man does that make my day. HA HA HA!!!

They're not gonna make the playoffs!! HA HA HA HA

And good. Cause if the Redskins made the playoffs by just one game and then won the Superbowl I would never get over it. Cause that would mean their win in Baltimore is what allowed them to win it.

Kawalimus fucked around with this message at 11:31 on Dec 20, 2016

E_Motion
Oct 26, 2004

Your fortuitous arrival is most welcome! Now, I am spared the bother of hunting you down!

College Slice

Kawalimus posted:

I just woke up and found that the Redskins did lose...man does that make my day. HA HA HA!!!

They're not gonna make the playoffs!! HA HA HA HA

And good. Cause if the Redskins made the playoffs by just one game and then won the Superbowl I would never get over it. Cause that would mean their win in Baltimore is what allowed them to win it.

Good news!

Good chance that the Skins win over the Ravens is what keeps the Ravens out of the playoffs! (or the Jets game, or the Giants game, or...)

Kawalimus
Jan 17, 2008

Better Living Through Birding And Pessimism

E_Motion posted:

Good news!

Good chance that the Skins win over the Ravens is what keeps the Ravens out of the playoffs! (or the Jets game, or the Giants game, or...)

I can handle that, especially with this garbage team. Our playoff record would end up suffering anyway. We needed that loss to get rid of Trestman. Otherwise he'd still be here. It's no coincidence that losses to the Redskins is not something Ravens ownership is happy with. It's what got Cameron AND Trestman fired. The Cameron game wasn't even a bad offensive showing by the Ravens. So you know it was losing to the Redskins that caused it. And because of that the Ravens would up in the Superbowl. As miserable as a home loss to the Redskins is I'm fine with something that will put pressure on our pea-brain coach to get his poo poo together, or hopefully get him fired due to his ineptitude. The Ravens just want consistency at head coach and don't want to be a team that is firing their coach every two or three seasons and I can respect that. But I just hate that is has to be a guy like Harbaugh. A guy that has the team playing with no situational awareness whatsoever, that pisses away what should be comfortable leads almost every time we get them. A guy(who's been coach for 8 years!) whose hurry-up offense sees the Ravens shambling around like zombies late in the 4th quarter and needing two scores. A guy whose expertise was supposedly special teams but his coverage units are constantly getting flagged for holding and who put out Devin Hester for the bulk of the season despite Hester clearly having no clue what he was doing anymore out there. Not to mention his special teams trick plays almost never work. We've never had a real good head coach here in Baltimore. I want a guy like Bill Belichick is.

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

There is a glitch in the OP that has the Dolphins in a playoff spot in December hahahaha

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World

Kawalimus posted:

I want a guy like Bill Belichick is.

You and 31 out of 32 teams. Trying to hire the next Belichick is a loser's game though. It's unicorn hunting.

A better strategy is to assemble a top flight staff over time around a head coach who is generally well respected but doesn't try to do it all himself. Which is what most of the "good almost every season why the gently caress won't they go away?" teams basically already do, outside the odd bad coordinator they keep around too long.

Which is what the Ravens have done all along. :v:

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

sean10mm posted:

You and 31 out of 32 teams. Trying to hire the next Belichick is a loser's game though. It's unicorn hunting.

A better strategy is to assemble a top flight staff over time around a head coach who is generally well respected but doesn't try to do it all himself. Which is what most of the "good almost every season why the gently caress won't they go away?" teams basically already do, outside the odd bad coordinator they keep around too long.

Which is what the Ravens have done all along. :v:

also; cheat

blue squares
Sep 28, 2007

how did Bill Belichick end up on Parm's EVIL LIST

Kawalimus
Jan 17, 2008

Better Living Through Birding And Pessimism

sean10mm posted:

You and 31 out of 32 teams. Trying to hire the next Belichick is a loser's game though. It's unicorn hunting.

A better strategy is to assemble a top flight staff over time around a head coach who is generally well respected but doesn't try to do it all himself. Which is what most of the "good almost every season why the gently caress won't they go away?" teams basically already do, outside the odd bad coordinator they keep around too long.

Which is what the Ravens have done all along. :v:

No that's not a good strategy because the staff will always get poached and we'll be left with a bunch of lovely sycophants like Juan Castillo and a clueless head coach who won't hold anyone accountable. Our best strength on the Ravens is a GM who is amazing at stocking defensive talent. We had the same problem under Billick.

I can see our situation working if we got a coordinator who people wouldn't touch as a HC. But you can't just find those because most guys at the coordinator slots who do well will get nabbed. So you do want to find an excellent head coach.

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World

Ehud posted:

also; cheat

The Ravens have cheated all along, I agree.

Abrasive Obelisk
May 2, 2013

I joined th
ROVPACK IN THE HOOUUUUSE!
:vince:
he still knows...

Ehud posted:

There is a glitch in the OP that has the Dolphins in a playoff spot in December hahahaha

All they need is one more win

tarbrush
Feb 7, 2011

ALL ABOARD THE SCOTLAND HYPE TRAIN!

CHOO CHOO
I'm terrified Vance Joseph is gone after the season. He's been transformational with the amount of production he's got from overlooked players.

tarbrush
Feb 7, 2011

ALL ABOARD THE SCOTLAND HYPE TRAIN!

CHOO CHOO

Abrasive Obelisk posted:

All they need is one more win

We've been there before. At the Bills no less.

It's going to snow and we're going to melt. Then get annihilated by Jacoby Brisset because there is no God.

Kawalimus
Jan 17, 2008

Better Living Through Birding And Pessimism
It's not like Bill Belichick was this great coach from the start. It took him a while. But he kept learning and became a great coach. And he cheated too. But he's still great despite that. A guy like Harbaugh just doesn't seem to learn anything. And you can't have that cause he's the guy running things. He should at least know a thing or two about how offense and defense works. Instead he just "trusts his guys" so you have situations of no accountability unless you lose to the Redskins and stoke Baltimore's inferiority complex so Steve Biscotti gets upset.

axeil
Feb 14, 2006

quote:

Friends,
I'm sorry to say but I cannot and will not be watching any more football this season (although I haven't been doing much since the Hill debacle) and I do not think I will be watching any more for a very long time. You see, I've been forcing myself to follow my old sport even after the Chiefs abandoned me. It's mostly due to loyalty and tradition; I like watching the sport after all. I even chose to follow the Jaguars for a season to keep my flagging football interests alive. No affront to them (I still believe a 10-6 season is on the horizon after Gus Bradley was fired! Bortles will be top ten for sure!) but my heart wasn't in it. Even when I do arrive here on this forum and watch football while posting, I cannot keep my righteous anger over the drafting of Tyreek Hill at bay. This may surprise you but your friend Parm has a little bit of a temper sometimes :) I should have quit the sport the moment Hill was drafted but I held on naively, like a drat fool, hoping the best would happen and that Justice would prevail. All of you who called me out on this were correct. Thank you for your honesty. I will definitely appreciate it.

Truly, the NFL has made it clear that it is no longer for me. Every year that goes by, another team falls off the list of respectable teams and another abuser gets signed for mega-bucks. It's hard to keep cheering for such a sport as I get older and older. I always assumed my team would be clear and they would learn the lesson of Jovan Belcher but John Dorsey and Andy Reid forgot that. So did the fans. I'll never forgive people for cheering his name in Arrowhead. I can't abide by it. If I don't make a stand, I'll be justifying anything while football just becomes fouler and fouler. It's enough to have ten evil teams but now there's going to be at least fifteen here before too long. What happens if there's twenty? I'm not standing by to find out. So, this is it: I am officially finishing my posting career in TFF and my football fandom altogether. We've had some good times, my dear friends, but I need to leave for the well-being of my own psyche.

Before I go, however, I have some more to say. As the most controversial poster in this forum, I must resolve some hanging issues:
1. My posting was never a gimmick. I have never posted with a gimmick and I never will. I post sincerely and without irony about issues I care quite a bit about and I always have. I might be wrong about some things (and Lord knows I have been) but I always post from the heart. I admit that I have "trolled" some people before so as to create some laughs but I have never ascribed to a gimmick style. In fact, I consider all the desperate posters chasing after me to accuse me of gimmicking to be gimmick posting themselves. Truly disappointing.
2. My evil team's list is real and fair and I respect and admire anyone else who creates their own. It will be different than mine and as long as you can justify it, then it's just as valid. I would ask my friends to always consider a list of teams and players they personally despise on an ethical level as that's the simplest and most basic form of sports fandom.
3. There are certain arguments with regards to my old team that I refused to engage in. One is the fallacy that every team probably has a bad player on it so just stop caring. I would hate to be so cynical. The second involves the biggest Chiefs tragedy of all time: Jovan Belcher. Some dastardly posters tried to troll me using that awful event and I hope they are ashamed of themselves for doing so. I avoided this argument because it was, uh, bad and not much fun to talk about, you know? The answer was always pretty simple and obvious but certain posters engaged in bad faith arguments with attempts to "get" me so I'll handle it now and forever. Scott Pioli handled the Jovan Belcher situation as best he could by giving a moment of silence to the victims of domestic violence and setting up a fund for Belcher's orphan. This is clear and obvious.
4. Alex Smith is still bottom five in the league and that's always been true and I've always been right about it.

If you would like to keep in touch with me, please know that I will be on SA still. I'm thinking about seriously getting into the NBA (a much more Just sport) so you might even see me in those threads. My Twitter handle is @lakdifflanchzed (it's an old account named after my first D&D character so lay off ). I'll not be giving off my facebook or my tumblr at this time. In the meantime, I intend to find another thing to channel my hobby energy into.

Perhaps a day may come when I begin posting again. A lot of things have to change but I don't think football will be around in any real good state for much longer. It's going to be like NASCAR pretty soon. Goodell will see to that. If I am to return, the following things must happen:
1. Goodell is fired and a new GM willing to punish players and teams for actual misdeeds and not hosed up socks or whatever. Maybe someone who's not a lovely owner shill?
2. Andy Reid, John Dorsey, Tyreek Hill and Alex Smith are no longer in the league in any serious way.
3. Ben Roethlisberger, James Harrison, John Elway, Tom Brady, Bill Belichick, Jameis Winston, Frank Clark, Adrian Peterson, Dorial-Green Beckham, Terrell Suggs, Aqib Talib, TJ Ward, Dan Synder, Jeremy Hill, and probably several others I'm forgetting at the moment must also be removed from the league and from league history. Ray Rice, Josh Brown, Greg Hardy and Perrish Cox need to remain exiled for life.
4. For gently caress's sake take OJ's loving bust out of the hall goddamn it's not that hard to just put the thing in a loving wheelbarrow and just push it out the back and into a ravine

Once I am satisfied with the state of the NFL I will perhaps return. It seems unlikely and I doubt even then I'll have the time to care. Time moves on after all and so must I. There are many good posters here and I'll always treasure the memories I have. Rams/Hawks 7-9 bowl? Amazing. Steeler fan meltdowns? Can't forget it. But it's time to leave for me. I wish that take this one thing away from this thread: Always stand up for Justice in whichever way you think you can. Never give in to cynicism and forlorn acceptance. If you truly care about something, then you must care. I have deeply cared for football and will probably do so for a time yet. I wished that it would become the force for change that I knew it could be. I was disappointed but instead of hanging on out of habit, I will move on and find something I can care about guilt-free. If you care as I do, then maybe it's time to stand up for the sport and demand better as I have done for the past however many years.

Please feel free to have a discussion about some of the finer points that I've brought up tonight. Evil teams, the fate of football, gently caress Alex Smith. Whatever you guys want. Go for it.
Thank you all and Happy Holidays!

P.S. Intruder you can keep doing my toxxes if you want but don't feel obligated anymore. I know probating people makes you uncomfortable so I won't ask it of you any more. You're free, Genie.

RIP Parm. He was a gimmick to the very end.

P.S. Alex Smith is a Very Good and Cool QB

Kalli
Jun 2, 2001



NFL gonna allow fans to attend the combine now to watch the Bench press, 40 yard dash and cattle branding.

Grittybeard
Mar 29, 2010

Bad, very bad!

Kalli posted:

NFL gonna allow fans to attend the combine now to watch the Bench press, 40 yard dash and cattle branding.

Man I feel like a damned junkie watching a few minutes of the combine here and there on TV.

Wonder if scouts are pissed about this? I guess they sit with fans all the time in season, but it's gotta be nice to just have plenty of space to spread out and make notes about bubble butts and long frames and such.

Intruder
Mar 5, 2003

sean10mm posted:

You and 31 out of 32 teams. Trying to hire the next Belichick is a loser's game though. It's unicorn hunting.

Seems like the thing to do would be to poach someone from his staff then :v:

Impossibly Perfect Sphere
Nov 6, 2002

They wasted Luanne on Lucky!

She could of have been so much more but the writers just didn't care!
I hope they let fans sit in the same section as coaches. I want to see some guys sidle up to Belichick and offer him a corndog.

FUCKFACE MORON
Apr 23, 2010

by sebmojo
hahahaha jesus christ

Phobeste
Apr 9, 2006

never, like, count out Touchdown Tom, man

Intruder posted:

Seems like the thing to do would be to poach someone from his staff then :v:

Don't hire Josh McDaniels, it will only bring you sadness

Impossibly Perfect Sphere
Nov 6, 2002

They wasted Luanne on Lucky!

She could of have been so much more but the writers just didn't care!

His technique is awful.

fsif
Jul 18, 2003

The combine is where I draw the line. Black Monday, coaching hirings, free agency moves, the draft, even training camp battles, I'm all in. But parsing out what a prospect's vertical leap means for their development is where I quit.

Pron on VHS
Nov 14, 2005

Blood Clots
Sweat Dries
Bones Heal
Suck it Up and Keep Wrestling
https://twitter.com/keemstar/status/811224357150330881

Good Will Hrunting
Oct 8, 2012

I changed my mind.
I'm not sorry.

Much like the Chargers, he doesn't finish.

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.


hahahahahaha

sharknado slashfic
Jun 24, 2011

Industrial Meat Package posted:

What the gently caress is that wall of text

It's beautiful is what it is.

pubic works project
Jan 28, 2005

No Decepticon in history, and I say this with great surety, has been treated worse or more unfairly.
Guys he just had an itch.

barnold
Dec 16, 2011


what do u do when yuo're born to play fps? guess there's nothing left to do but play fps. boom headshot
NFL cheerleaders are not even nearly hot enough to be worth trying to jackoff standing up.

with a few exceptions most of them look like late-40s, early 50s beat-up pornstars

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Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

Pretend I posted something like "good to see Ross gainfully employed"

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