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Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe

Duscat posted:

the seas aren't going to keep evaporating though, because there's going to be an equilibrium point, i mean, what's the pressure under a kilometer of water, because that's gonna be the pressure at sea level once it's all in the atmosphere, and the boiling point will be that much higher

also i don't think nuke volcanoes are going to do much globablly unless you can somehow trigger the yellowstone supervolcano (which is still more likely to cool things down than heat them up)



there would be an equilibrium point if the earth was a closed system, but it isn't!
1km water ~= 101 bar, boiling point is ~300 C

having that much water vapor added to the atmosphere would increase the size of the atmosphere, which would decrease the temperature further, and energy output is proportional to T^4, assuming opaque atmosphere (which, having a km of water in it its gonna be pretty drat opaque)



water is HELLA better at greenhousing our poo poo up

Mnoba posted:

watch the hunt for red october baloogan it will answer all of your questions

"E:\Porn\The Hunt for Red October (1990)\The.Hunt.for.Red.October.720p.BrRip.x264.YIFY.mkv"

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Duscat
Jan 4, 2009
Fun Shoe

Baloogan posted:



there would be an equilibrium point if the earth was a closed system, but it isn't!
1km water ~= 101 bar, boiling point is ~300 C

having that much water vapor added to the atmosphere would increase the size of the atmosphere, which would decrease the temperature further, and energy output is proportional to T^4, assuming opaque atmosphere (which, having a km of water in it its gonna be pretty drat opaque)



water is HELLA better at greenhousing our poo poo up


i still don't think it's possible, because if we were in such a narrow metastable state, i think it would have flipped already, but i don't know enough about atmospheric science to dispute that, so i'ma concede this one as plausible and allow it as a valid doomsday fantasy

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe
yaaaay!

a long long time ago i studied atmosphereic science because i wanted to save the world

Duscat
Jan 4, 2009
Fun Shoe

Baloogan posted:

yaaaay!

a long long time ago i studied atmosphereic science because i wanted to save the world



piece by piece i'm building up my profile of baloogan, one day i will understand how he came to be baloogan

Seizure Meat
Jul 23, 2008

by Smythe

Duscat posted:

piece by piece i'm building up my profile of baloogan, one day i will understand how he came to be baloogan

he dehumanized heself and faced to bloodshed

Seizure Meat
Jul 23, 2008

by Smythe

zen death robot posted:

The Air Force's job isn't to give the president a psych eval. The public is kinda supposed to do that when electing him but hey we're a bunch of goddamn idiots so if he says "launch em all" then they're gonna do it.

yeah basically

though to be fair it's not like he can be sitting in a room alone with the football and just pop it open and hit the button

you'd like to think someone in the room with him would tackle him if he's making a decision such as this out of the blue

e- the nuclear football travels with the President, but he's never in actual possession of it

Mnoba
Jun 24, 2010

zen death robot posted:

The Air Force's job isn't to give the president a psych eval. The public is kinda supposed to do that when electing him but hey we're a bunch of goddamn idiots so if he says "launch em all" then they're gonna do it.

ugh it's the air force that is in charge of the nukes they are the shittiest branch

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

zen death robot posted:

The Air Force's job isn't to give the president a psych eval. The public is kinda supposed to do that when electing him but hey we're a bunch of goddamn idiots so if he says "launch em all" then they're gonna do it.

To be fair the Air Force dude asked his question during a time when Nixon was possibly drunk off his rear end all the time and tons of people were wondering about his state of mind and fitness to serve.

iirc the Secretary of Defense (#2 in charge of nukes) even gave orders to officers to check with him first before following any orders from the president that 'seem strange'

Olga Gurlukovich
Nov 13, 2016

Crusader
Apr 11, 2002

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/811977223326625792

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
what does that tweet even mean?????

like we don't have multiple nuclear submarines each able to destroy entire continents parked all over the ocean even assuming you forget about all the ICBMs and conventional delivery bombs

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp
You can tune into the drill messages on shortwave radio; several times a day they send out what could be a coded launch order, or coded STANDARD DRILL, DISREGARD

and it's transmitted in the clear all day (we bluff so the Russians/Chinese can't say "oh hey they're sending transmissions, they launched") and you can just imagine the stress from decrypting that message till you figure out if you're launching on Pyongyang or going back to the galley for lunch in a few minutes

Crusader
Apr 11, 2002

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bt6eEhKwDUA

Freaking Crumbum
Apr 17, 2003

Too fuck to drunk


Jonny 290 posted:

You can tune into the drill messages on shortwave radio; several times a day they send out what could be a coded launch order, or coded STANDARD DRILL, DISREGARD

and it's transmitted in the clear all day (we bluff so the Russians/Chinese can't say "oh hey they're sending transmissions, they launched") and you can just imagine the stress from decrypting that message till you figure out if you're launching on Pyongyang or going back to the galley for lunch in a few minutes

it would be interesting if everything that the public "knows" about our nuclear missile capabilities is actually an enormous misinformation campaign and the mechanism by which we would actually begin the nuclear annihilation of the planet utilizes some kind of entirely proprietary system.

unfortunately my dad served in the missile silos in the AF for years and everything he's shared with me confirms all of the public knowledge.

also, I wasn't worried that our missiles would be hacked or whatever (you'd hope their computers are on a closed system anyway, that couldn't be easily accessed from any civilian or private network). I was mentioning how archaic the infrastructure is because it's entirely possible that you could get a dud launch if the equipment is genuinely too old to function.

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Freaking Crumbum posted:

I was mentioning how archaic the infrastructure is because it's entirely possible that you could get a dud launch if the equipment is genuinely too old to function.

Oh well yeah possibly. That stuff still needs maintenance and inspection.

I just meant like they use older gen tech for good reasons too, it's not purely just because we're dumbasses who can't maintain our poo poo right (although that's probably true anyway).

Moridin920 has issued a correction as of 20:26 on Dec 22, 2016

the bitcoin of weed
Nov 1, 2014

Prav posted:

if the order arrives, the president isn't sane

Seizure Meat
Jul 23, 2008

by Smythe

Moridin920 posted:

what does that tweet even mean?????

like we don't have multiple nuclear submarines each able to destroy entire continents parked all over the ocean even assuming you forget about all the ICBMs and conventional delivery bombs

our delivery systems and warheads are getting long in the tooth while Russia and China forge ahead with next generation systems is what that tweet means

Crusader
Apr 11, 2002


president yossarian

rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
Only an insane POTUS would want to continue living on this gay earth

Nuke them all, and let tronc sort them out

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

VikingSkull posted:

our delivery systems and warheads are getting long in the tooth while Russia and China forge ahead with next generation systems is what that tweet means

So he can't say "continue modernizing our nuclear arsenal" like we've actually been doing already? He's gotta go "we need MORE NUKES" as if we don't now have enough to destroy the planet 10x over?

I love when he says some obvious fuckwit poo poo and his supporters rush in to go "well what he really means is..." like he is 8 years old and needs someone to help him speak.

"We're gonna BUILD A HUGE WALL it's gonna be great it'll be so big and modern and we're gonna make Mexico pay for it!"
"Oh well... what he really means is comprehensive immigration reform and trade deal re-negotiations to eke more dollars out of Mexico!"

like nah he's talking about a literal wall like a moron lmao

Moridin920 has issued a correction as of 23:10 on Dec 22, 2016

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe
we don't nearly have enough to destroy the world 10x over atm

we don't even have enough to destroy the ENTIRE world 1x just once

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe
lets say we ahve 5k nukes, 5 per city, so that comes out to 1k cities

"A report compiled from World Atlas calculated that there were 4,416 cities in the world with a population of over 150,000."

we could barely take out 1 fifth of the world

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe
and you can't scrimp on bombs, 5 per city is a good average,

also, we should skip nuking american and canadian cities

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

Prav posted:

if the order arrives, the president isn't sane

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Baloogan posted:

lets say we ahve 5k nukes, 5 per city, so that comes out to 1k cities

"A report compiled from World Atlas calculated that there were 4,416 cities in the world with a population of over 150,000."

we could barely take out 1 fifth of the world

1 Ohio class submarine carries 24 Trident missiles, each with up to 8 MIRV W76 warheads at 100kt each. 100kt is enough to have an air blast radius of 2km, and nearly 3km for the thermal radiation radius (which will give you 3rd degree burns and probably kill you, just not instantly so you get to sit there for 15-20 minutes dying slow) which is enough to blow up a huuuge chunk of any major city.

We have 14 of those. That's just the submarines. IE one of them can take out 24 major cities (being conservative, also assuming 8 warheads is enough to obliterate a major city).

So idk man maybe we couldn't hit literally every single population center and 10x over is hyperbole but uh lol if you think we really don't have enough of a big stick considering 1 of 14 submarines is enough to basically make an entire continent an irradiated wasteland.


e: oh also those Trident missiles can actually carry 12 warheads, they're just limited to 8 because of international treaty which I feel like is going to mean dick all in a situation where we are seriously considering using them.

Moridin920 has issued a correction as of 23:25 on Dec 22, 2016

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe
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Seizure Meat
Jul 23, 2008

by Smythe

Moridin920 posted:

1 Ohio class submarine carries 24 Trident missiles, each with up to 8 MIRV W76 warheads at 100kt each. 100kt is enough to have an air blast radius of 2km, and nearly 3km for the thermal radiation radius (which will give you 3rd degree burns and probably kill you, just not instantly so you get to sit there for 15-20 minutes dying slow) which is enough to blow up a huuuge chunk of any major city.

We have 14 of those. That's just the submarines. IE one of them can take out 24 major cities (being conservative, also assuming 8 warheads is enough to obliterate a major city).

So idk man maybe we couldn't hit literally every single population center and 10x over is hyperbole but uh lol if you think we really don't have enough of a big stick considering 1 of 14 submarines is enough to basically make an entire continent an irradiated wasteland.


e: oh also those Trident missiles can actually carry 12 warheads, they're just limited to 8 because of international treaty which I feel like is going to mean dick all in a situation where we are seriously considering using them.

I like that you're talking to Baloogan about strategic defense like this, haha

e- also I wasn't defending Trump up there, just stating what he meant. He was wrong about START earlier in the year and he's wrong about it now.

Seizure Meat has issued a correction as of 23:29 on Dec 22, 2016

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
Oh hey apparently we also have W88 warheads for those Trident missiles, 475 kt per warhead instead of just 100 kt. Super necessary.



I'm simply saying I don't think we need more nukes. What would be the point? Maybe I'm taking the tweet too literally I guess.

VikingSkull posted:

I like that you're talking to Baloogan about strategic defense like this, haha

:justpost:

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe
kablammo

Crusader
Apr 11, 2002

Scrub-Niggurath
Nov 27, 2007

how can you know you're sane yourself?

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe
god told me

Scrub-Niggurath
Nov 27, 2007

how can we know god is sane

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe
Donald trump is going to be the next president and we're willingly and enthusiastically cooking the planet with 10,000 nuclear weapons pointed at each other and poo poo like the mandlebrot set exists.

god cray dude

Seizure Meat
Jul 23, 2008

by Smythe

Baloogan posted:

Donald trump is going to be the next president and we're willingly and enthusiastically cooking the planet with 10,000 nuclear weapons pointed at each other and poo poo like the mandlebrot set exists.

god cray dude

I agree he's Cray, because this poo poo is just a holographic simulation and none of us actually exist

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe
i think therefore I am :tinsley:

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
how many visits from russia does your website get, baloogan

rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
Ugh, another 'blogger', that's so 2005 it hurts

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe

logikv9 posted:

how many visits from russia does your website get, baloogan

at one point I had to ban russia and poland for half a year because of DDOS attacks
and ive been attacked over and over and over and over and over by russian trolls (tho they stopped bugging me in the last couple of years guess they had an election to hack!) and ddoses and I get brute force attacks daily

but yeah I get traffic from all over hte world

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Seizure Meat
Jul 23, 2008

by Smythe
it has to blow their minds to read cspam and be like wait that baloogan gently caress and that brown moses rear end in a top hat post there and they have trump cheerleaders, also one of their dudes died in benghazi and another was a soldier of fortune

SA is weird as gently caress

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