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Retroblique
Oct 16, 2002

Now the wild world is lost, in a desert of smoke and straight lines.

nachos posted:

Is the witness worth it? I love puzzle games but a 25 hour game feels excessive. I burned out on talos even though I really enjoyed that game.
I got a little burned out on Talos too (probably got very close to the end but just ran out of momentum), but I played The Witness all the way through to the end on PS4 (I've since bought the PC version because I've since forgotten about half the puzzle logic, so it'll be fun to do another play through).

The Witness manages to remain relatively fresh all the way through because you're constantly building a puzzle vocabulary and mixing it up in interesting ways, plus all the new areas you unlock are at the very least aesthetically interesting and narratively intriguing. Not that there's any significant narrative to speak of, but there's enough there for the player to create their own explanations and back story for everything. With Talos you'd pretty much seen everything the game had to offer, mechanically speaking, about a third of the way through, but in The Witness you're always learning something new, and I think that was the key difference that kept me going until the end.

Like that other poster suggested, I'd really try to avoid looking up play throughs. Building an understanding of the puzzle logic is the game's primary mechanic, so if you rob yourself of that then the game's just going to feel a bit pointless. By all means look up a solution if you've been staring at a puzzle for 3 hours and are just about ready to stick your head in a blender, but this isn't really the sort of game you should be watching someone else play before you tackle it yourself. Take advantage of Steam's refund policy instead -- if the game hasn't grabbed you after 2 hours it never will, but I suspect if you were into Talos then you'll be into this game too.

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The Monarch
Jul 8, 2006

So, Project Cars vs Assetto Corsa. Which game has the better single player mode, and handling model when using a controller? I really liked Forza 4's single player. Does either game have anything comparable?

The 7th Guest
Dec 17, 2003

I guess I'll post my steam haul like i threatened wahahahahaha you have to read it (nah you can just scroll past it idgaf)

$50 + steamwallet money got me

Orwell (beaten)
Crimson Room Decade (beaten)
Pixeljunk Shooter Ultimate (beaten)
Refunct (beaten)
Rusty Lake: Roots (beaten)
The Next Penelope (beaten)
Toren (beaten)

Airscape
Alpha Polaris
Creepy Castle
Cubixx HD
Culpa Innata
Dead End Road
Drunken Robot Pornography
Factotum 90
Ghost 1.0
Hidden on the Trail of Ancients
Judge Dredd Gamebook
Ohklos
Omnibus
Legend of Kay
Magatama Earrings
Magnetta
My Night Job
Pixeljunk Nom Nom Galaxy
Projector Face
QUBE Director's Cut
RE Revelations 2 episode 2
RYB
ROOT
Sandmason
Shardlight
Stories of Bethem: Full Moon
The Sea Will Claim Everything
Traverser
WASTED


And these were gifted:

INSIDE (beaten)
Firewatch (beaten)

A Walk in the Dark
Another Star
Bohemian Killing
Rambo: Baker Team
STASIS
Victor Vran

Thanks to everyone who gifted me and thanks to the many indie developers for still believing in deep discounts!!! Unlike AAA PUBLISHERS!!!!

The 7th Guest fucked around with this message at 06:29 on Jan 2, 2017

blue squares
Sep 28, 2007

I bought my last item and immediately regretted it: XCOM 2. I have a feeling I will be terrible at the game and give up, which is what happened with XCOM: EU and the first main mission that I could never beat. I am not good at hard games.

HEVampersand
Apr 2, 2005

Do you even own a toothbrush?
Edit: Nevermind, sale ended. :)

HEVampersand fucked around with this message at 19:02 on Jan 2, 2017

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

The "most money in 2016" thing is offensive to all of my senses, especially taste. Fallout 4 / nms shouldn't be that high, and hitman being that low is a crime

monster on a stick
Apr 29, 2013

blue squares posted:

I bought my last item and immediately regretted it: XCOM 2. I have a feeling I will be terrible at the game and give up, which is what happened with XCOM: EU and the first main mission that I could never beat. I am not good at hard games.

Jadestar is doing an LP of this one in case you need helps/tips/etc.

Spiderdrake
May 12, 2001



Grapplejack posted:

The "most money in 2016" thing is offensive to all of my senses, especially taste. Fallout 4 / nms shouldn't be that high, and hitman being that low is a crime
The steam controller is in the top 100.

Leper Residue
Sep 28, 2003

To where no dog has gone before.

Grapplejack posted:

The "most money in 2016" thing is offensive to all of my senses, especially taste. Fallout 4 / nms shouldn't be that high, and hitman being that low is a crime

i'm just glad the stardew valley dude is as high as he is. dude deserves it, it's a product of love and it shows. good for him.

kater
Nov 16, 2010

nachos posted:

Is the witness worth it? I love puzzle games but a 25 hour game feels excessive. I burned out on talos even though I really enjoyed that game.

FWIW I crashed out of Talos after three hours after getting frustrated with the finicky environment stuff, but am currently doing the end game of The Witness. You should just try it out. You can easily do the first main section of the island within refund time (You create a giant beacon at the end of it, you won't mistake it) and if you like it you will like the game. I loved that first section but still consider it mid-tier compared to other parts of the game.

Also the second main part (desert) is the worst in the game so feel free to go explore or whatever instead of doing it.

Mahasamatman
Nov 8, 2006

Flame on the trail headed for the powder keg
How are the truck simulator games with a PS4 controller? How are the DLCs for Euro Truck Simulator 2?

Gonna spend ~$20 more on the sale and trying decide between American Truck Simulator, Euro Truck Simulator 2, or Salt and Sanctuary. Just got a PS4 controller and want to make sure it's a game I won't need to use the M+KB.

Leper Residue
Sep 28, 2003

To where no dog has gone before.

Mahasamatman posted:

How are the truck simulator games with a PS4 controller? How are the DLCs for Euro Truck Simulator 2?

Gonna spend ~$20 more on the sale and trying decide between American Truck Simulator, Euro Truck Simulator 2, or Salt and Sanctuary. Just got a PS4 controller and want to make sure it's a game I won't need to use the M+KB.

euro truck simulator works great with the ds4, dlc is also worth it if it isn't too expensive. no idea about the americas, can't afford them yet.

but all those games should work well with the ds4 so you should be fine.

EightDeer
Dec 2, 2011

Looking for thoughts on a second load of games from the sale:

Brigador
Disgaea
ICEY
Metal Slug
Princess Remedy In A Heap of Trouble

Are all of these worth playing?

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

EightDeer posted:

Looking for thoughts on a second load of games from the sale:

Brigador
Disgaea
ICEY
Metal Slug
Princess Remedy In A Heap of Trouble

Are all of these worth playing?

Brigador: Hell yes. It's the best isometric mech simulator you'll ever find. Game plays as a neat combo between being fast and powerful - but also being super fragile. You have to be slow and methodical and careful, or else you will get swarmed and die. It has a ton of content - missions with different loadouts so you can try puzzle-box type approaches to levels, then freelance where you pick your own loadout and assault different maps, trying to escape alive (and with a lot of cash.)

The one problem with it is that the controls are very hit or miss - they added in a twin-stick shooter style control scheme, but original is best - and I'll admit that took me a few hours to get the hang of. It becomes natural after that, but you have to work at it.

And it has one of the best soundtracks I've had the pleasure of listening to in recent years. Please enjoy it!

Disgaea: Charmingly anime srpg - I'd rec this game, but be patient as it involves some grinding, and the gameplay is about learning how to break it wide open so you can become unfairly strong in all circumstances. The story mode is beatable without hours and hours of tedium, but those post-game things.....hoo boy. On the other hand, Phantom Brave is also on Steam, and has more creative mechanics and a better story, so pick whatever seems more appealing.

Lester Shy
May 1, 2002

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!
Are there ever any better deals on Witcher 3 DLC? I've barely started the main game, but I'm pretty sure I'm gonna want to go full completionist on it. That's going to take quite a while, so I may have time to wait for a better deal to roll around.

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


I get that this is late to ask but how good is FFX's story, characters, and setting? Is it good for JRPGs/anime, or legitimately good? For reference my favorite western RPGs are Dragon Age and Mass Effect, and my favorite JRPG is The World Ends With You.

Tafferling
Oct 22, 2008

DOOT DOOT
ALL ABOARD THE ISS POLOKONZERVA

Quest For Glory II posted:

Happy new year everyone! I have keys for some games I already have so have at them! Claim em or whatever and I'll PM you or something. (note: i'm not sure WHY i have these dupe keys? I dunno if Humble Bundle gave me dupe keys by accident or if I really did just buy a lot of bundles with overlapping games this past year, so hopefully the gift links work when you get them!)

The Beginner's Guide
Betrayer
Bionic Commando: Rearmed
Chroma Squad
Closure
Dropsy
Mars: War Logs
Odallus: The Dark Call
Outland Special Edition
Pix the Cat
Psychonauts
Resident Evil Revelations 2 Ep. 1
Shadowrun Returns
Shantae: Risky's Revenge Director's Cut
Snakebird
Strider 2014
Styx: Master of Shadows
Technobabylon
Tesla Effect: A Tex Murphy Adventure
Trine 2 Complete Story
Westerado: Double Barrelled

I'd like to try Odallus if it's still unbidden. I'm ready for an unforgiving creepy beat'em up.

Spiderdrake
May 12, 2001



Tafferling posted:

I'd like to try Odallus if it's still unbidden. I'm ready for an unforgiving creepy beat'em up.
It's real good, but it's Castlevania.

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

Nichael posted:

I get that this is late to ask but how good is FFX's story, characters, and setting? Is it good for JRPGs/anime, or legitimately good? For reference my favorite western RPGs are Dragon Age and Mass Effect, and my favorite JRPG is The World Ends With You.

It's legitimately good. It's half pilgrimage/roadtrip, half tragedy, and thanks to Tidus there's this interestingly jarring element as he's the literal fish out of water barging in on this sacred mission.

...Er, the story in a nutshell: Tidus the blitzball star gets thrown forward in time thanks to magical bullshit, so he tags along with Yuna and pals as she goes on a quest to save the world. Cue Tidus trying to befriend everyone while trying to figure out what this quest is about.

It's got interesting characters, an interesting world, and I quite liked the gameplay - some of the best in the FF series, in my opinion. The voice acting is, uh, decent at best, and it's clearly a PS2 game, but still - give it a shot. And for the love of god, don't get hung up on the sidequests. Those are the weak point.

Ularg
Mar 2, 2010

Just tell me I'm exotic.
I don't know how long left we have on the sale, but you should definitely consider picking up Binary Domain. It's $3.99 and I've been having a blast with it. You'll want to buy the collection, though, the one with DLC bundled in because that's the thing that's discounted, not the base game.

http://store.steampowered.com/sub/27824/

Here's a good video talking about what makes it so good, might have spoilers but the big ones are telegraphed so you can skip them:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j66cTc95XK8

VodeAndreas
Apr 30, 2009

Ularg posted:

I don't know how long left we have on the sale, but you should definitely consider picking up Binary Domain. It's $3.99 and I've been having a blast with it. You'll want to buy the collection, though, the one with DLC bundled in because that's the thing that's discounted, not the base game.

http://store.steampowered.com/sub/27824/

Here's a good video talking about what makes it so good, might have spoilers but the big ones are telegraphed so you can skip them:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j66cTc95XK8

The store page has a big timer near the top, eight and a half hours remain.

ugh whatever jeez
Mar 19, 2009

Buglord

The Monarch posted:

So, Project Cars vs Assetto Corsa. Which game has the better single player mode, and handling model when using a controller? I really liked Forza 4's single player. Does either game have anything comparable?

I have both that I play with xbox360 controller and I like Assetto Corsa much better. I pretty much gave up trying to drive RWD supercars in Project Cars (driving aids off) but then again I'm not into super hardcore sim stuff so other than setting up my controller I really don't change much in car setup so YMMV

Hopper
Dec 28, 2004

BOOING! BOOING!
Grimey Drawer
Well, quite a good christmas sale season for me this year, despite mediocre discounts I stayed below my self-imposed 50€ mark and got some good games:

- Dying Light (my coop group all bought this as our next title to play so yay for more coop)
- Ori and the Blind forest
- Abzu
- Need for speed (on Origin to satisfy my tuning and racing urges)

Total paid 47€


Bolivar
Aug 20, 2011

Think I'll probably pick up Wolfenstein TNO and Shadowrun - dragonfall since I don't have too much of a backlog and next bigger sale isn't until June I think?
Guess I'm open for some random last day- suggestions for games under 5 eur/$ which don't have too much of a learning curve.

The 7th Guest
Dec 17, 2003

Tafferling posted:

I'd like to try Odallus if it's still unbidden. I'm ready for an unforgiving creepy beat'em up.
i'm goin to sleep right now but i tried to send you a PM and it said you dont accept them??

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

Bolivar posted:

Think I'll probably pick up Wolfenstein TNO and Shadowrun - dragonfall since I don't have too much of a backlog and next bigger sale isn't until June I think?
Guess I'm open for some random last day- suggestions for games under 5 eur/$ which don't have too much of a learning curve.

Rip and Tear your budget apart by getting DOOM as well. RIP AND TEAR!

Bolivar
Aug 20, 2011

Neddy Seagoon posted:

Rip and Tear your budget apart by getting DOOM as well. RIP AND TEAR!

I HEAR YOU MAN, but I looked into it, and apparently the GTX950M of my laptop is fine for Wolfenstein but crap for Doom. And it would be a bit pointless to play Doom if it doesn't feel fluent. I'll probably just grab it for five bucks once I buy a new PC.

Blattdorf
Aug 10, 2012

"This will be the best for both of us, Bradley."
"Meow."

Bolivar posted:

I HEAR YOU MAN, but I looked into it, and apparently the GTX950M of my laptop is fine for Wolfenstein but crap for Doom. And it would be a bit pointless to play Doom if it doesn't feel fluent. I'll probably just grab it for five bucks once I buy a new PC.

Below 60 FPS, Doom just feels wrong.

Ularg
Mar 2, 2010

Just tell me I'm exotic.
I still have Sale Cards 3, 7 & 8. If anyone needs them you can have them. Don't need anything in return.

http://steamcommunity.com/id/Phorrum

Also I totally just went against myself and got Homefront the revolution anyway. I'm way too curious to see how it pans out over the first Homefront. And watching videos about it won't do it justice for me.

Pennfalath
Sep 10, 2011

Why are these teenagers not at home studying their Latin vocabulary?

Quest For Glory II posted:

someone beat you to it (via PM), but do you have a 3DS or Wii U? I have codes for Shantae & the Pirate's Curse because of that nintendo bundle. it's the sequel and a better game imo

I do have a 3DS! FC 5043 2578 3948 or add me on Steam.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

Bolivar posted:

I HEAR YOU MAN, but I looked into it, and apparently the GTX950M of my laptop is fine for Wolfenstein but crap for Doom. And it would be a bit pointless to play Doom if it doesn't feel fluent. I'll probably just grab it for five bucks once I buy a new PC.

YOUR PC NEEDS HUGE GUTS! :black101:

claw game handjob
Mar 27, 2007

pinch pinch scrape pinch
ow ow fuck it's caught
i'm bleeding
JESUS TURN IT OFF
WHY ARE YOU STILL SMILING

Grapplejack posted:

The "most money in 2016" thing is offensive to all of my senses, especially taste. Fallout 4 / nms shouldn't be that high, and hitman being that low is a crime

You also have to factor in that that's how many copies of these things were sold on Steam. You can't tell me Hitman didn't receive massive boosts in playerbase from sales at other digital retailers who went a lot lower.

Jack's Flow
Jun 6, 2003

Life, friends, is boring
Thanks a lot for the Age of Wonders 3 recommendation. It took just half an hour to remind me why I put hundreds of hours into Master of Magic and Warlords 2 & 3. I can probably uninstall every other game on my laptop now.

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

Endless Legend: are the expansion packs crucial to enjoying the game the same way the Civ V expansion parks are, or would the base game be enough for me to dive in and have a good time?

(or should I just put Endless Legend back on the wishlist and get back to Civ V?)

Tafferling
Oct 22, 2008

DOOT DOOT
ALL ABOARD THE ISS POLOKONZERVA

Quest For Glory II posted:

i'm goin to sleep right now but i tried to send you a PM and it said you dont accept them??


Why on earth did I disable them? I can't really remember.
They're on now.

Thanks for the game! Maybe in a while I'll post a review.

Griefor
Jun 11, 2009

StrixNebulosa posted:

Endless Legend: are the expansion packs crucial to enjoying the game the same way the Civ V expansion parks are, or would the base game be enough for me to dive in and have a good time?

(or should I just put Endless Legend back on the wishlist and get back to Civ V?)

Base game is perfectly fine. The DLC adds some fun stuff, but the base game is not broken/incomplete.

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

Griefor posted:

Base game is perfectly fine. The DLC adds some fun stuff, but the base game is not broken/incomplete.

Thank god. Card money lets me squeak out one more purchase from the sale, and if I love Endless Legend I'll grab the dlc in summer or something.

Thanks!

Mokinokaro
Sep 11, 2001

At the end of everything, hold onto anything



Fun Shoe

StrixNebulosa posted:

Thank god. Card money lets me squeak out one more purchase from the sale, and if I love Endless Legend I'll grab the dlc in summer or something.

Thanks!

If you do buy the DLC later I'd prioritize them thus:
Tempest (naval combat hugely changes the game)
Shifters (being able to manipulate the winters is a fun quirk and the new race are interesting)
Shadows (espionage is cool, but not essential. The Forgotten are a lot of fun though)
Guardians (titular guardians are a mixed bag, it's the game's equivalents to wonders that make this one useful)

After Tempest the other three are kind of even though. The other two DLCs add music and more quests.

succ
Nov 11, 2016

by Cyrano4747
How is Orwell? I've heard it's super linear and I could watch a Let's Play of it and get a similar effect.

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The Leck
Feb 27, 2001

So, what is this?

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