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THE AWESOME GHOST
Oct 21, 2005

Unexpected Raw Anime posted:

I've never gotten past the first hour of NieR and I really don't have a good reason. I should just play it already

The gameplay never really gets good, it's carried by the story which takes some time to get going. Also the sidequests and stuff stay 99% pointless throughout except some of them are actually good and there's no way to know which

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THE AWESOME GHOST
Oct 21, 2005

I wanna hook up my wii u controllers to pc because I'm not really using them for the wii u lol

THE AWESOME GHOST
Oct 21, 2005

Unfunny Poster posted:

I never played Nier but the demo is great so far. Am I going to be at a huge loss in terms of story for not having played the previous game?

Nobody knows yet but it seems like it's gonna be a self contained story it looks like

Something from Nier that was a big big spoiler that I think might figure into this story from what I can tell

You find out near the end that the "shadows" you kill which you thought are demons are the souls of humanity. Every person alive today is basically the left over bodies of humanity without a soul, the Shadow Lord is trying to return humanity to their bodies and you've been working against that the entire game. He kidnaps your daughter because she was his daughter, and puts her soul back into her. Eventually you kill him and doom humanity to get your fake body daughter back

On New Game + you can hear the shadows speak to you and they're begging you to stop killing their children and friends it's pretty brutal


The reason I think it's gonna come back is during the demo the machines start playing random PA messages and someone says "they're just machines nothing they do has any reason to it" and it reminded me a lot of that twist. Also the demo boss slowly starts to talk as you fight it

THE AWESOME GHOST
Oct 21, 2005

In Training posted:

To get myself hype for Nier I'm finally getting around to playing the dmc games and in the first 30 seconds where Dante shoots a bullet through the Graphic Violence warning and a narrator shows up with "Two Millenia Ago..." and then trinity from the matrix shows up...I've been missing this game my whole life

Skip straight from DMC 1 to DMC 3. DMC3 as a 17 year old was like, the one thing I most identified with in life. The opening cutscene is dante eating pizza while he kills demons. At one point Dante jumps off a building, fights a bunch of monsters, throws his sword, then shoots it so it goes faster, then runs after it and grabs it and starts flying

A lot of the style Platinum games are known for owes itself directly to DMC3

THE AWESOME GHOST
Oct 21, 2005

OK SO

The team that made the DMC games largely went on to become the internal Capcom developer Clover

Clover made Okami, God Hand, Viewtiful Joe, which are all still some of the most stylish games around and were all really underappreciated for how good they were. Capcom was more concerned around that time with releasing the like 47th megaman game

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mega_Man

Look at how much of a loving mess the spinoffs get around 2003-2005. Even Viewtiful Joe which was like their novel new IP got 3 sequels in 2 years

SO Capcom goes haha, stop making good games and dissolves Clover. Most of those team went on to make Platinum Games around this time

So at this point Platinum Games is largely a team of people who got big with Devil May Cry + The Resident Evil creator (because it was an RE game remember) and then Sega paid them to make games for them

So Bayonetta was a result of that and that's really the closest proper thing there is to a sequel to Devil May Cry 3. Now they kind of farmed out their fighting engine to a lot of IP holders who don't want to come up with the effort of making their own game and just want "Action game but X brand", and they're kind of the guys that just make poo poo for whoever can't develop games anymore as the only remaining competent Japanese developer. I think they got a lot of work specifically because they took MG Rising, a totally cancelled game, and managed to make a really good game within tight timelines under someone else's supervision. That;s why Transformers is literally the control scheme of MG Rising with robots

Personally I think they took on too much because their quality took a major nosedive after Bayo 2 probably because they were just taking whatever they could get to stay afloat, and now Scalebound is cancelled too. BUt Nier is probably gonna be great

A weird thing is that even though Kamiya directed DMC1 and Bayo 1, he just supervised on the sequels. The director of DMC 3 did Dragon's Dogma which I should really play sometime

THE AWESOME GHOST
Oct 21, 2005

PaletteSwappedNinja posted:

it's basically an unrelated game that got reskinned as a DMC halfway through development. the combat's way shallower and there's far less weapon variety, the tone of the world/characters is different and not interesting, etc. its a typical mediocre PS2 action game

Ya from a combat point of view if I remember correctly Dante has multiple swords with the exact same moveset but different stats which is like, come on, and the guns are the strongest thing in the game which makes the bosses boil down to stand on the other side of the screen and hold down square

The whole thing controls like poo poo, it was enough of a mess that the team working on it changed halfway through and they put it out anyway

I never played as the girl though and I heard she controlled much better, I just finished the game with Dante

Unfunny Poster posted:

With the exception of Transformers Devastation, which I thought was great, yeah.

I need to give that more of a chance but from what I played it just felt like a worse MG: Rising, and then I started playing the Steam version of MG Rising because I never finished the DLC . I also started playing Bayo 2 again recently and that game is so unbelievably good, sucks that the switch isn't gonna have Wii U compatibility

THE AWESOME GHOST
Oct 21, 2005

Playing the PC port and performance is weird yeah. I can max out most games at 1080p with 60fps but this one has some weird framerate stuff and also full screen mode looks funny

THE AWESOME GHOST
Oct 21, 2005

Ok I ignored the tevhnical issues enough to play to the desert boss. Game owns

THE AWESOME GHOST
Oct 21, 2005

bump_fn posted:

how do you get the emil stuff that isnt just his store

Did you find his flowers

THE AWESOME GHOST
Oct 21, 2005

I'm still on Route B and persona 5 is coming out oh no

THE AWESOME GHOST
Oct 21, 2005

I feel like Route E's ending does not line up with DLC lol

THE AWESOME GHOST
Oct 21, 2005


Worth listening to definitely

THE AWESOME GHOST
Oct 21, 2005

It's weird because I love the concept and hopefulness of ending E but the actual ending is just sort of there. Like The credits sequence was more emotional than the ending itself

D is the most nier ending, i chose to leave

The 9s voice actor did a playthrough of the whole game and he reads out loud the text part of ending D

THE AWESOME GHOST
Oct 21, 2005

By the end of the game Normal provides a good challenge because the game will really suddenly ramp up assuming you've been doing sidequests or something

THE AWESOME GHOST
Oct 21, 2005

Literally the first question:

Waypoint: This might seem like a strange question, but your stories are full of dark themes and unsettling stories—cannibalism, murder, death, suicide. In the real world, what makes you happy?

Taro: Maybe it was the time I was told, "I've always liked you YOKO san" by a girl. However, because things like that don't happen too often in the real world, I mainly find happiness in food. When I'm able to eat cheap and delicious food, like ramen and beef bowls, I can't stop but to think, "Ah, what a great era I was born in." But to be honest, I want a girl to tell me, "I've always liked you YOKO san."

THE AWESOME GHOST
Oct 21, 2005

Lunchmeat Larry posted:

they made all the voice actors go on stage at E3 wearing white wigs and fight the secret boss over and over while Emil's shop music constantly looped and the audience left in droves

:(

THE AWESOME GHOST
Oct 21, 2005

Phimose Knight posted:

I enjoy that 2B's eng voice actress started her careerdoing lovely anime flashes on newgrounds.com

as much as I like nier automata I wouldn't put a VA job for it that much higher than lovely anime flash tbh

THE AWESOME GHOST
Oct 21, 2005

Evil Eagle posted:

What? Anyway the Japanese dub is amazing I can't imagine playing this game with the English one and I almost never think like that.

The english dub is very good but dubbing of JP games/anime to english is usually not a job VAs want

THE AWESOME GHOST
Oct 21, 2005

vaginal facsimile posted:

"This cannot continue"-Western democracies to ISIS

Become as gods, become as gods - ISIS to western democracy

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THE AWESOME GHOST
Oct 21, 2005

bump_fn posted:

arranged & unreleased tracks album was released and has some importnt missing tracks

Do they have the THIS CANNOT CONTINUE & Become as Gods version of that song

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