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icantfindaname posted:why can't I be a feminist as a man, and instead have to be an "ally"? (i'm assuming that's hiw this works) Why get upset about it? I'd like to think of myself as a feminist but if women don't think I deserve the title I'm going to consider myself rather than arguing.
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the trump tutelage posted:Doesn't this presuppose that there's such a thing as a consensus amongst women about the label, that there are clear boundaries that can be policed, that someone has the authority to police them, that women have a special access to truth and knowledge, or that such a thing as a mode of thinking confers a label to be earned? Nobody cares what you think
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Can't men just...I don't know, swallow it? Get over themselves? Hemming and hawing about not feeling welcome or whatever seems like the height of weakness, and blindness, and exactly like all the white supremacists who believe that being criticized for their actions is as bad as racism. If these people haven't been reached yet, they're probably not going to be.
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Sharkie posted:Also, fun housework story: over Christmas my 12 year old cousin saw his dad doing dishes and laughed and said he was doing "women's work." Now this is a kid who regularly spends time with my other cousin and her wife, who both have awesome careers and also do lots of farm work, repair work, and other tough stuff, etc. LOL that's perfect. That's how you fix broken baby men. No matter their size.
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Fortunately they overheard him say it, so guess who ended up doing dishes for everyone?
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Good Canadian Boy posted:This thread is interesting but the amount of sexism TB throws around in her posting is really hypocritical. Man it makes it tough, huh. How are you ever gonna get a job when women are talking poo poo on the internet?
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Dec 29, 2016 09:11
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Neo_Crimson posted:It has (to an extent), same with "guys". Problem is they used to be male terms that became gender-neutral, while there has never been a female term that has done so. There should be a series where people call a mixed group "gals" and see what happens.
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I Killed GBS posted:https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3577891&pagenumber=1&perpage=40#post421169558 golly the mods were so horrified by that they gave him a week to think about what he'd done
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You areNevvy Z posted:1. Listen, you incredible nitwit. You simpering bufoon. You complete rear end. You misandrist. Damaging causes by being angry and aggressive is an actual thing that happens, you might not like it, but it's a huge turn off for people who ask questions to then get yelled at. It does, in fact, make other people less inclined to participate. And there is such a thing as being too big of an rear end in a top hat, that's not a tone argument. I would go so far as to say that if someone is turned off by your hostility and you trot this out you are straight up dismissing their legitimate feelings because they are inconvenient to you. Denying their lived exerience, as they say. drat, this is a crippling blow to feminism, it approaches "men and their petulant behavior" in its damaging effects.
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Nevvy Z posted:Is that what you think I was trying to do there? Interesting. It's actually really uninteresting at this point
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BarbarianElephant posted:I would have said the same thing to a guy who said he put a baby on the floor. Do you understand that a man wouldn't have had a baby forced on him
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