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Are you claiming that Disney's marketting for Frozen was somehow ineffective?
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# ¿ Aug 18, 2017 16:51 |
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# ¿ May 9, 2024 12:23 |
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Honestly, though, it seems a significant stretch to say that Disney, the creators of the most commercially successful films in history, did so despite being 'bad at marketting'.
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# ¿ Aug 18, 2017 17:44 |
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Most of my favourite animations is anime so its hard to pick out line readings. I did really like chief bogo's "it was already broken" line in Zootopia though.
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# ¿ Aug 24, 2017 03:18 |
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Oh, the gently caress? Most of those derails are caused by people who don't otherwise post in this thread coming in to do OMG YOU'RE SICK. This is dumb as gently caress.
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# ¿ Aug 24, 2017 10:25 |
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Anyway I saw Your Name finally and enh.
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# ¿ Aug 24, 2017 11:21 |
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Of his films I think it reminds me most of Children Who Chase Lost Voices From Far Below. The art covers up the cracks a bit better this time round, but the issues are similar. There's like a point at the 2/3rd mark when her messages start Mysteriously Disappearing from his phone, and they simultaneously develop the idea they love each other where it goes full Shinkai and it just grinds hard against where the earlier part of the film is going, and all the interesting character development bits just get unceremoniously dropped.
Fangz fucked around with this message at 12:04 on Aug 24, 2017 |
# ¿ Aug 24, 2017 12:00 |
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Robindaybird posted:Story time? Hughes was abusive to his wife Sylvia Plath, to which some attribute her depression and suicide shortly after separating with him.
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# ¿ Aug 26, 2017 18:40 |
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Saw Ballerina. I thought the actual dancing bits was well done, with some nice moments with the retired ballerina character. Though it's fairly predictable of course. What absolutely drags the film down is Victor the obligatory comic relief boy character, and the crappy action scenes that he comes attached with. Which is annoying given how they want to make him important in the climax, and the only way they can do it is put our protagonist in a position where she is totally useless and has to be rescued.
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# ¿ Sep 8, 2017 01:47 |
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Night is Short, Walk on Girl was pretty fun.
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# ¿ Sep 12, 2017 12:29 |
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I see Sony is bouncing back after the Emoji movie
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# ¿ Sep 22, 2017 15:03 |
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paradoxGentleman posted:Should I know what this is, other than "mediocre at best"? Peter Rabbit is a famous series of illustrated children's books by Beatrix Potter. Cute rabbits in clothing, beautiful drawings, very popular. http://kinderbooks.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/97807232691062.jpg That trailer is bad. quote:In 1938, shortly after the success of Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs, Walt Disney became interested in making an animated film based on The Tale of Peter Rabbit. However, Beatrix Potter refused to give the rights to Disney because of marketing issues.[30] lol Fangz fucked around with this message at 15:10 on Sep 22, 2017 |
# ¿ Sep 22, 2017 15:07 |
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There's a shitload of good stuff made *by* goons, indeed there's probably a number of them organised by people who met on these forums. It's just, why do this thing as a *Somethingawful Forum thing*? It doesn't really earn you any automatic respect.
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# ¿ Oct 1, 2017 21:41 |
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Who's TJ Miller?
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# ¿ Oct 18, 2017 17:40 |
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That rings a bell. Wasn't he in the Emoji movie, also?
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# ¿ Oct 18, 2017 17:49 |
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Saw Loving Vincent. It was pretty good.
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# ¿ Oct 30, 2017 23:35 |
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Pick posted:More theme-landers: Have you seen A Silent Voice yet
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# ¿ Nov 11, 2017 04:10 |
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Yeah I think Up was alright because for example the emotional climax of the film was him having to sacrifice what symbolically represents his wife (the house) to go save the kid. I can't really remember how Inside Out ended, I guess they used Anger as a blowtorch?
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# ¿ Nov 12, 2017 20:22 |
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Pigbuster posted:The problem I have with that is that the house ended up going exactly where he wanted anyway. It felt like it undermined its own point. It did but *he never sees that it does*.
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# ¿ Nov 12, 2017 20:53 |
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Well the other guy is obviously Evil Protagonist who has allowed (noble motive) to become murderous obsession, so the hero clearly needs to learn to ultimately exceed him in a way. I agree he didn't have to die though. I kinda hated the bird. I like dogs.
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# ¿ Nov 13, 2017 03:06 |
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Brazilian catholic artist does melodramatic drama comic about abortion, translates it to english. Culture clash happens... (Abortion is illegal in Brazil except in medical cases or in cases of rape)
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# ¿ Dec 7, 2017 13:17 |
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:It's not like any part of that debate or rhetoric is unfamiliar to the United States. Yeah but it's a lot more normal in Latin America.
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# ¿ Dec 7, 2017 20:14 |
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World Famous W posted:I can't speak for the rest of my country, but in my good ol'e southern state of Alabama we have evangical Christians about to line up to vote for an accused pedophile because "his opponent is for killing babies". A whole lot of the anti Doug Jones campaigning is based on the fact he is pro reproductive rights and the conservatives hate that. My understanding is that the crazy no-abortions allowed position is actually the current law in Brazil and supported by the majority of people according to surveys, so I think the cultural whiplash here is that this artist probably didn't even think they were even making a very strong statement.
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# ¿ Dec 9, 2017 17:46 |
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Protip filmmakers, don't call your main character something that sounds a lot like 'dad' and have your trailer be about him trying to kiss the love interest while she is calling his name. Yikes the trailer for Tad The Explorer was awkward. Unrelatedly Coco made me cry bitch tears.
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# ¿ Feb 6, 2018 21:48 |
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:this is... either missing my point or completely, hilariously wrong, depending on what you mean by this This is incorrect. https://wavemotioncannon.com/2016/12/31/an-introduction-to-framerate-modulation/ If you don't believe me, look at this example where they step through an action scene. The fireball moves at 24 fps while the bird moves at 12 fps. https://videopress.com/v/Fy4tsp4A That's a movie. TV series does animating on threes more often. Keyframes are about *movements*. Start of a throw, end of a throw etc. For that reason they obviously cannot be put in on a fixed framerate of 8 fps. Miyazaki keyframes for a run cycle http://cdn8.openculture.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Miyazaki-Running-4.jpg The characters obviously do not run at a fixed rate of two steps per second. Fangz fucked around with this message at 19:17 on Feb 12, 2018 |
# ¿ Feb 12, 2018 19:08 |
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lelandjs posted:Yeah, there haven’t really been any egregious Best Pic animated film snubs recently (I haven’t watched Coco yet though, so maybe that got snubbed?). Ironically this was the context behind the infamous 'chinese cartoons' quote. The interviewee was pissed off that Lego Movie didn't get a nomination and Song of the Sea/Princess Kaguya did. In terms of Best Picture nomination snubs, well, Coco was probably a better movie than Darkest Hour.... For Unmature, I think what it's worthwhile going into on an oscars video is the oscars nomination and voting process. There's a lot of videos and articles out there criticising the Oscars in terms of 'X movie that I like should have been nommed instead' but not much that explores how this really happens and what the rules are. It's really interesting for example how Cartoon Saloon keeps getting nominations: I mean I love their films, but it's striking how they are successful despite their relatively niche status while others aren't. Fangz fucked around with this message at 13:39 on Mar 9, 2018 |
# ¿ Mar 9, 2018 13:36 |
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I liked Big Hero 6 a lot and I'm glad it won the oscars.
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# ¿ Mar 9, 2018 19:02 |
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The animations Oscars are hosed because they are trying to do a bunch of irreconcilable things. But if you accept that the award is going to ultimately come down to a popularity based vote, it's a nonsense argument to have the nominations try and pre-empt the final vote by eliminating something that has a strong likelihood to win the final contest. You might as well make the entire thing a panel-based decision (though good luck figuring out who makes up this panel...)
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# ¿ Mar 9, 2018 19:07 |
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All that really needs to be said. https://youtu.be/K_hfOSLrvKA Also talking about Mulan as 'they have a quota to fill' is the sort of thing that makes me eyeroll so hard I almost forgot I came in here to gush that The Breadwinner was really good.
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# ¿ Jun 4, 2018 20:49 |
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Dog Kisser posted:Wait, what's wrong with Your Name's ending? 10 minutes of will they won't they nonsense based on the assumption that I care about whether two kids with 30 seconds of screen time together and even less chemistry, meet in later life. Meanwhile the entire rest of the plot is resolved offscreen.
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# ¿ Jun 14, 2018 10:18 |
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quote:The rights issue is actually pretty simple. Well, insofar as any rights issue can be simple. If this does go to court (which it won't), Disney would probably argue a fair use defense, asserting that the use of the image is transformative, that it doesn't diminish the value of the image, and that the nature of the work is not copyrightable. If the artist wins, they may not be able to claim any damages from Disney, since they would have to argue both that stealing the work cost them financially - *and* that their original creation of the work was not commercial. Moon Atari posted:If allowed to use fan art unpaid they will quickly shift to doing so whenever possible, crowdsourcing whatever they can to the fan community. Free fan art could already easily take the place of official promo material and printed merchandise. In the extreme you might get something like marvel encouraging an online community of fan artists to produce full comics, then publishing the best ones without having to pay. Everyone else already tries to fleece artists by paying for work with "exposure", so it wouldn't be stretching norms too far for bigger companies to follow suit. This already happens. Even saying that fan artists have to be asked for permission wouldn't change the situation too much in the 'exploiting artists sense'. However if there's a general sense that fanart could create legal issues for the original creators (in this case, hurting not the BG artist but *Disney itself*), I suspect the situation will get suddenly a lot more hostile. The result would, I suspect, be that rights holders would be a lot more active. Open art communities would be acted against, instead fanart would be herded into gated communities where to draw [insert character] you have to explicitly sign a contract that gives the original creator rights to the work and signs them up to binding arbitration in the rightsholder's location of choice. That would be a no brainer move for big rights holders even if they were acting in good faith and just want to protect themselves, and completely legal. My impression as an artist is that you create original works for your own advancement, profit etc, and fanart for enjoyment and to support the original creators. This seems to be the current cosy consensus that allows fanart to exist despite it in many cases being indisputably a breach of the original creator's rights. Fangz fucked around with this message at 14:49 on Aug 23, 2018 |
# ¿ Aug 23, 2018 14:23 |
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# ¿ May 9, 2024 12:23 |
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Pick posted:Actually the rights issue is even simpler. The holder of the IP owns the rights to distribute any derivative work, period, unless it is satirical or transformative (the latter being a very high standard). Its status as non-commercial is wholly legally immaterial, it's a standard by which IP owners tend to act but it has nothing to do with legality per se. Posting it online is distribution, passing it around to your neighbors is distribution. Fanart is protected to the extent you can draw it for yourself and hang onto it. Whether you made money from having distributed it doesn't affect this and I'm not sure where people are getting the sense it does. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derivative_work#When_does_derivative-work_copyright_apply? quote:Copyright ownership in a derivative work attaches only if the derivative work is lawful, because of a license or other "authorization." The U.S. Copyright Office says in its circular on derivative works: So I guess Disney's argument would be that fanart as derivative work is created without authorisation and insufficiently original, thus is not protected by copyright. I think on the broad legality of the case the courts might fall down either way, but I wouldn't bet against Disney's lawyers.
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# ¿ Aug 23, 2018 14:54 |