Animation Thread 2017: "These Movies don't cater to the 25-40 demographic"

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Fangz posted:

Show her Wolf Children?

No doubt she'd really enjoy it. She always says her greatest joy in life is her children, so she'd connect in a big way.
Even with the werewolves.

# ¿ Jan 24, 2017 23:44

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# ¿ May 10, 2024 04:45

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Unmature posted:

None of you can think of ANYTHING that happened this week that would make it weird to be reading about a misogynist?

EDIT: Oh, not that he did. All he does not is argue on Twitter, make awful Simpsons couch gags, and steal Kickstarter money.

The way it was phrased made it sound like he, directly, did a thing. Which, hey, it's John K. Who'd be surprised by another lovely thing from him?

# ¿ Jan 25, 2017 00:35

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Phylodox posted:

That is clearly either a scarf or leg warmers.

If it bites its own tail it becomes an infinity scarf.

# ¿ Jan 25, 2017 22:38

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Unmature posted:

Kiki's Delivery Service is the best Miyazaki movie this is a fact.

FAKEEDIT:
Am I the only one who struggles with their love of The Wind Rises since it could be taken as "Japan did nothing bad in WWII we were just being artists"?

Huh, I took it a little differently. I thought Jiro had a love of flight craft and was immersed in their beauty, movement and function. He seemed bothered with the knowledge that his art was being used for war. His dreams of idyllic blue skies and fluffy clouds kept giving way to fire, smoke and iron crosses. I'd say he struggled with it, too.

# ¿ Jan 26, 2017 09:03

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Also wound up watching the channel. I was really impressed with the quality, as most channels I catch early have shaky mic/editing/scripting issues. You done this before?

# ¿ Jan 30, 2017 05:01

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You naturally-talented rear end in a top hat. Keep it up! :argh:

# ¿ Jan 30, 2017 19:57

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I really like Maui's character design. I love the blockiness of it, how his face kinda looks like a pug and how his hair is better than Moana's. Just really strong stuff there, excellently reinforced and balanced. I wish, I wish animation would take more risks like that with protagonists, where the design isn't a beautiful human on its own merit but the charisma makes it charming as all gently caress. We usually only get that with villains. Which is why Ursula and Hades are infinitely more fun to watch than their protagonist counterparts.
I can at least appreciate it when I can find imperfections in the main character's design, like Coraline's crooked nose and Norman's baggy eyes. I also like that Rapunzel has really prominent front teeth. Just ever so slightly buck. :3:

# ¿ Jan 31, 2017 14:03

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Boxman posted:

("That's the beauty of it, it doesn't do anything!")

This bothers me so loving much.

# ¿ Jan 31, 2017 17:09

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Hedrigall posted:

I Won't Say I'm In Love was a total moment for me when I rewatched the movie last year, the first time since it had been in cinemas. I simply had no idea that song was so good! It honestly elevates the movie, which I had written off for a lesser Renaissance effort for ages.

Edit: Sorry for all the double posting! When this thread is moving I don't get any work done, I

I watched it with my sister the other week and she sheepishly told me this was her favorite song and that she felt silly about liking the love song so much. I reassured her by saying I think it's the best song in the movie and, to my knowledge, is widely regarded as such.
She felt better. :3:

# ¿ Feb 2, 2017 05:55

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I'm also watching An American in Paris for the first time and right there's where Linguini was gonna throw Remy into the water, fog n' all. :stare:

# ¿ Feb 2, 2017 06:02

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Meg and Kuzco are the best Disney princesses, bar none.

# ¿ Feb 2, 2017 17:46

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Shadow Hog posted:

https://twitter.com/AceNoi/status/827279369135550464

Wow, this puts a different spin on Horton's expression.

# ¿ Feb 3, 2017 00:31

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Drifter posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U496dSv2k_g

I really think the original movie looks better. It just has so much more soul

'Kay, I just got around to watching this and I just want to flip a goddamn table over this weird loving trend where the female lead is apparently a FF: Spirits Within model and can't emote because wrinkles are ugly and women have to be PREEEEETTYYYAAAUGH.
THE CARTOON IS OUTPERFORMING YOU, WOMAN. :fuckoff:

# ¿ Feb 3, 2017 10:54

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I had Emily slippers.

Evidently a grave insult to my dogs.

# ¿ Feb 6, 2017 10:50

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I would just like to leave this Samurai Jack trailer here because it's concept art animated. :syoon:

# ¿ Feb 6, 2017 21:57

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Nah, I just mean I'm impressed with the lack of compromise in the transference from concept to execution. Only other example I can really think of is Book of Life, which I did not enjoy.

# ¿ Feb 6, 2017 22:57

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I wonder if trolls taste like citrus fruits.

# ¿ Feb 8, 2017 23:04

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I love for them to take the Grand Budapest approach: Everyone has whatever accent for no real reason just roll with it, son.

# ¿ Feb 9, 2017 00:17

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So I just watched Finding Dory on Netflix and holy loving hell, that was a lot of chase scenes. Didn't get a drat slow down and talk moment until an hour in.

# ¿ Feb 9, 2017 07:49

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ThermoPhysical posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxPY3PdnmrY

Here's the video of the Disney Infinity 3.0 Toy Box Zootopia mission made by the Disney Infinity team.

Holy poo poo, it is 1997 and I am impressed with voice acting on my PS1. :stare:

# ¿ Feb 11, 2017 17:17

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I thought Pick was referring to what we were discussing earlier, with Disney's CG library not having the design range of its 2D library. Or even Pixar. Which I entirely agree with, so maybe that's why I interpreted it like that.

# ¿ Feb 13, 2017 20:35

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I dunno, Pixar seems to have a better range of style than Disney. You can pick on a sense of underlying aesthetic with a lot of their films (not all!)

For example, The Incredibles has obvious industrial design overtones (am I thinking of de stijl or futurism?)with a sleek, angular design to its world and characters. The furniture and architecture is 60's minimalist and it's pretty well reflected in the extreme shapes of its characters.

Even the traditionally feminine figure eight form is stretched to its limit and punctuated with with straight, sharp lines. All the major female characters have a sharp and distorted shape to them, even with Mrs. Incredible who's the most rounded. Helen's forearms and calves are exaggeratedly pinched, same even goes for her hair.

Compare that to something very organic like Brave, wherein the character design embraces natural curves and textures in correspondence to the wilderness around it.

These characters would look extraordinarily out of place in The Incredibles and vice versa because one emphasizes exacting shape and simplicity, the other is all about loose, organic design and texture.

And I was trying to use mostly feminine examples since they tend to get samey for "must be pretty" reasons, but I wanted to point out a thing in Up. Ellie's cardinal shape is a circle, so it doesn't quite illustrate the point as well.

Carl is just such a softened square. Look at the edges on those ears! It's not harsh enough for The Incredible's aesthetic, but not organic enough for Brave. His ears always amused the hell out of me, though, they're such clunkers.

# ¿ Feb 13, 2017 23:19

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I'm not really disappointed, I just really admire when animation can create something thoroughly unique. My all time favorite animated sequence is the creation story segment in Watership Down. :allears:

It's just if and when it happens, I'm super jazzed about it.

# ¿ Feb 14, 2017 01:28

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ImpAtom posted:

Disney had all 5 of the top 5 grossing movies last year. I imagine their response to that is 'lol, why?'

See, that's something I really admired about Walt Disney- He risked financial loss to push innovative artforms. It's a pity Disney Corp can't be arsed to do that with billions behind them.

# ¿ Feb 14, 2017 03:24

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Her name is Princess "Royal Rumble" Rodriguez.

# ¿ Feb 14, 2017 09:33

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Well Barrytoa hasn't always been this glam.
I was a drab little bug once!
But then I went and boned a giantess human
Because she's beautiful, honey!

# ¿ Feb 14, 2017 22:30

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Tempted to stick him in the OP after the dance party quote. Really give new initiates the what for.

# ¿ Feb 15, 2017 00:31

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Hedrigall posted:

Yeah, teach them to come inta our thread!

We are a territorial lot and we piss on everything. :argh:

# ¿ Feb 15, 2017 00:52

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Ccs posted:

This is again because Pixar usually picks a different designer for each movie. Whereas Disney has the much of the same people (Jin Kim, and before him Glenn Keane) doing the final animation-ready designs. So their drawings get translated to 3d and the movies look very similar to each other.

If you were a designer with years of feature experience you could probably pick out a ton of differences between each movie based on what the main artist decided to change about their style to fit the movie, but for those of us without that developed an eye, they look the same.

Eh, I'm not exactly a layperson but you're right that I don't have years of feature experience. Any designer will be able to discern the the unique qualities and flaws and magnify them tenfold, but at the end of the day you're dealing with a near boundless medium and there's no real reason it should take a professional to tell the difference between your projects when you have that kind of breadth. But as for designers being translated, Nico Marlet's designs communicate with their sources and surroundings very nicely and while not an entirely different ballpark, they wouldn't jive in each other's worlds. (BEES IN KUNG FU PANDA THEY ARE ALL BEES.)

My criticism of the Disney catalogue is that the characters themselves are often cohesive enough to drop the model in a different movie. I mean hell, Rapunzel and Flynn walked into Frozen, no prob. It's just cool when someone pushes the boundaries on the medium least restricted by them.

Golly, I hate phone typing.

# ¿ Feb 16, 2017 05:06

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Haha, holy poo poo! That's cool as hell.

# ¿ Feb 16, 2017 14:16

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Thread???

# ¿ Feb 17, 2017 17:00

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I don't know how much spill-over we have between this thread and the WHM thread, but I'll leave this here for anyone who wants to hear four grown men disdainfully review Bee Movie.

Macaluso posted:

# ¿ Feb 18, 2017 07:42

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"Everybody who's ever worked with this guy has said he's a complete rear end in a top hat, but I KNOW BETTER AND YOU ARE TOTES BETA, CUCKMAN."

# ¿ Feb 20, 2017 01:01

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Huh, took us less than 50 pages to Cronenberg the thread this time.

# ¿ Feb 20, 2017 09:24

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Pixeltendo posted:

This thread is going to be the reason a Bee Movie 2 will exist

Vanessa inherits an estate from her mad scientist uncle, but she stumbles across his secret laboratory filled with all sorts of wacky devices! (What's the deal with all these beeakers?) But when she ventures to try her uncle's teleporter, Barry can only see the opportunity for romance and slips in with her! Can Barry and Vanessa handle how close they're about to get?!

You won't beelieve what happens!

And maybe there's a love triangle with a lab crab (?) named Claus C. Clausnitzer and he gets in on the action.

# ¿ Feb 20, 2017 21:31

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Drifter posted:

^^^ -

Somebody quick draw Disney's Beauty and the Bee-st.

Starring Barry B. Benson as the Bee(st).

# ¿ Feb 20, 2017 23:22

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Hand in cleavage, send help.

# ¿ Feb 21, 2017 00:43

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ImpAtom posted:

A quick reminder of a film I bet most people don't even remember exists:

Didn't this come out during a weird spurt where there were a bunch of animated movies about shrinking people?

# ¿ Feb 21, 2017 02:45

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I'm just reminded of 90's cartoons and how far people went without asking questions. Particularly Cow & Chicken.

# ¿ Feb 21, 2017 18:20

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# ¿ May 10, 2024 04:45

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I, for one, appreciate that we live in a world that would greenlight a show about cow and chicken siblings who live with their below-the-torso human parents and are antagonized by Satan.

# ¿ Feb 21, 2017 19:17

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