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Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

~Groovy~



Animaniacs was better than Ren and Stimpy.

Also: N64 MasterRace

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Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

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Hedrigall posted:

This hurts me more than it hurts you

You dirty liar.

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

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What are the odds that Rock Dog is good?

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

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Pick posted:

If I recall, it had exactly the opposite moral as Antz.

What was the moral? I remember literally nothing about Antz other than that one soldiers disembodied talking head. Also a wasp died and another wasp got drunk I think?

Pick posted:

Barnyard.

There's like a 100% chance this was unintentional, but it kind of feels like the main character of Barnyard was meant to be a transman. He has an udder and no horns, but uses "he/him" pronouns and has a male voice actor. Also, part of the story involves him learning to be more mature so he can be a good parent to his pregnant girlfriends child even though he isn't the calfs biological father.

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

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Hedrigall posted:

That's actually cool and I hope it's true

Makes a ton more sense than the "Jasmine is the first transgender Disney princess!" theory

Yeah, I can't prove it, but there's some evidence supporting it such as:

SatansBestBuddy posted:


Actual dialogue from the film:

Dad: I remember when I used to come out here with your sister.

Son: But I don't have a sister?

Dad: Oh, right, that was you.


Barnyard isn't a great movie, but the idea that an animation studio managed to secretly make a kids movie with a trans protagonist in a way that's both subtle and blatant is kind of inspiring.

Of course, I could just be reading too much into this and the actual explanation behind things is "Udders are funny!!!!"

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

~Groovy~


Hedrigall posted:

Glad you asked! I won't get through all of these, probably 1-2 a day alongside other stuff.

Watch "Dofus – Book 1: Julith" too, the animation is gorgeous and it contains two talking cats as part of the main cast.

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

~Groovy~


dirksteadfast posted:

Illumination: "Our budgets don't allow for inspiration."

I recently found out I'm going to be a dad. One of my first thoughts was "drat, A Goofy Movie is going to absolutely destroy me from now on, isn't it?"

(And yes, I have invoked the name of this thread's Patron Film. Let the cycle begin again.)

Name your kid "Max" so it gets you even more emotional.

Also, congratulations! May you be as good of a father as Goofy is. :unsmith:

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

~Groovy~


Just saw the new Smurfs movie, and I thought it was pretty good! And I usually hate Smurfs!

I skipped a lot of posts in this thread, did anyone else see and enjoy the smurfs?

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

~Groovy~


Robindaybird posted:

Honestly it's the first time it's mentioned probably since it was announced.

Yeah, I can see that. The past two semi-live action Smurfs movies were pretty bad, so I can understand why people would have low expectations for this one. But, surprisingly, it's actually funny and well written. No dated pop culture jokes, just lots of slapstick and character humor. Oh, and the animation is gorgeous, although the magic forest they visit does kind of look like a rip off of the jungle in Avatar (guess that color pallet just looks good against creatures with blue skin).

It's nothing ground breaking, but it's a solid kids movie and I think adults who enjoy animation would like it as well.

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

~Groovy~


The_Doctor posted:

So I just remembered Galaxy High existed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buhOXTbyAag

Holy poo poo, I ALSO remember that Galaxy High existed! I can't believe there are two of us!

Man, that's one of those old cartoons that kind of feels like a weird fever dream.

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

~Groovy~


Sinners Sandwich posted:

How much of Gargamel is there in the new smurfs?

There is a lot of Gargamel and he is in peak Saturday-morning-cartoon villain form.

Also, Julia Roberts is in it which kind of took me by surprise (no, she's not playing Gargamel).

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

~Groovy~


Cockmaster posted:

I was just wondering whether to see that one. I was cautiously optimistic when I saw the trailer, but I did notice it scored lower than Boss Baby on Rotten Tomatoes.

Well, the critics on Rotten Tomatoes gave Smurfs: the lost village a 40% score, but the audience gave it 73%.

Meanwhile, the critics gave Boss Baby a 52% while audiences gave in a 62%.

So, technically, smurfs wins against boss baby with audiences even though it loses with critics.

But yeah, bullshit numbers aside I do think it's worth checking out. It's simple, but it's funny and entertaining.

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

~Groovy~


Renoistic posted:

Anyway, I enjoy the movie but I think the biggest issue is that most kids would find Paprika really boring. Those last ten minutes sure are something though.

Paprika has enough action throughout that I think kids would be entertained up it.

However, it also has nudity and lots of on screen death so you probably want to wait until at least late middle school to show it to them.

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

~Groovy~


Robindaybird posted:

And there's one scene where Chiba gets ripped out of her Paprika persona that is framed in a way that feels almost like a rape scene.

I wouldn't say "almost".

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

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Das Boo posted:

I still can't think of much to do with the story that wouldn't be goofy or trite. (Wah-hoooah, FIRE PRINCESS~!) I guess figure out why the gently caress Elsa's ice powers include the creation of sentient life.

Elsa fights a fire princess, then she kisses the fire Princess, then she marries the fire princess, then she and the fire princess open a soft serve ice cream parlor.

Just like in my 50 chapter fan fiction "Let it Fro-yo".

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

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Pick posted:

How dare Disney remove the nuance of the prince raping Sleeping Beauty when she's asleep so she wakes up as she gives birth and finds she is his property. Makes u think imho.

God the original sleeping beauty is such an awful mess. Not only does the prince rape and impregnate sleeping beauty instead of kissing her, when she wakes up it turns out the prince is actually a king because he's already married. The queen gets jealous of the kings rape victim and her babies and tries to have them killed, but she fucks it up and the king ends up killing the queen instead. So, now that the kings gross old wife is dead he's free to marry his hot rape victim.

It's not a fairytale so much as it is the rejected plot of some weird fetish porno that the studio decided not to make because it was too misogynistic.

Like, Disney isn't perfect, he made some mistakes, but I really don't think slightly changing the plots of old folktales to make them less horrifying is one of them.

Although I do have some complicated feelings about the changes made to the Little Mermaid, but that was made after Disney was already dead so he can't really be blamed for them.

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

~Groovy~


Pick posted:

Bears are plantigrade :colbert:.

Hey, Pick, this doesn't have anything to do with bears, but I keep meaning to ask you and I keep forgetting:

Why is your current Icon a Picture of Rapunzel with a bloody head wound? Where did that come from? Is the new Rapunzel cartoon way darker than I thought it would be?

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

~Groovy~


Detective No. 27 posted:

I saw this at a used toy store today:


It's a big mistake thinking you're the only one who can turn into a car! I'm a car now, too!

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

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Sinners Sandwich posted:

Wait Cartoon Network has an app? I've been wanting a legal way to check out Stephen Universe, is it good?

The app I mean

The app gets the job done, you need a cable provider to see all the episodes though.

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

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paradoxGentleman posted:

What did he do to deserve such spite?

He married his daughter.

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

~Groovy~


Fanbases are all terrible, all of them, forever. I know because I'm part of them.

I'll probably end up watching the pony movie online, it looks cute and I like bright colors.

Pick posted:

Shows tend to start sucking when the fans start joining the development process.

This is universally true.

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

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Inescapable Duck posted:

A lot of animes have a tendency to turn into convoluted parodies of themselves as soon as the initial arc runs out of steam.

Well, not just animes; this happens to most TV shows after the first few seasons.

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

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ungulateman posted:

probably not the best way of phrasing it. i guess i'm so used to media - and especially children's media - flattening out interactions between boys (and men, usually) that the melodrama of george and harold's friendship being endangered seemed particularly pronounced, and as such unexpectedly radical and 'queer' to see in a mainstream kids movie

still hella gay tho, imo

I'm sure you'll be happy to hear that only one of the kids in canonically gay.

Pyrotoad posted:

I was helping my mum cook with a random movie channel on as background noise and Strange Magic came on. We ended up watching the whole thing and we both kind of enjoyed it? Like it's not got any tension at all and it's very predictable, but there was something still kind of likeable about it.

The most fascinating thing about Strange Magic is the backstory behind it: George Lucas had been wanting to get it made for fifteen years, but just couldn't get the project off the ground. When he sold Star Wars to Disney part of the deal was that he would finally get to make Strange Magic. The result was, well, I've never actually seen it but from what I've heard it's "okay not great". I wonder if it would be remembered more fondly (or remembered at all) if it had come out in the year 2000 or so.

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

~Groovy~


Just saw Ninjago, I enjoyed most of it. It's clearly meant for younger audiences (not that that's a bad thing) and it's not as good as The Lego Movie or The Lego Batman movie, but I'm still glad I saw it.

I do have one major complaint about the movie though: Much like The Lego Movie and The Lego Batman movie Ninjago has a theme of "Daddy issues". That part is fine, it was done well in the other two movies so I didn't have a problem with it at first. Except as the movie went on I became increasingly uncomfortable with the way it was being handled. See, in the other movies it's the lovely father who has to learned how to be a better person for his son. In this movie the son has to learned how to be a better person (despite already being a hero) to help his lovely dad. The son has a lot of valid reasons to hate his father, and the father never makes any effort to change on his own, and yet the climax of the movie is the son magically turning his father good by "loving him even harder" despite the father repeatedly abandoning and betraying him. That's kind of a hosed up message to send to kids "Children, listen: if your parent abandons and hurts you the trick to getting them to stop is to just love them REALLY hard!". Sometimes biological parents are just horrible people, it's not their children's responsibility to fix them or continue to help them after they repeatedly hurt you. Your lovely parents either need to learn to be better people on their own or, if they refuse to change, you need to cut them out of your life.

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

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Pick posted:

I get the sense that would have been better fleshed out if they had more than 20 seconds to try to fit that entire arc in while still showing off a range of stupid mechs piloted by characters we don't have time to care about.

Yeah, all the non-green ninjas definitely had a "We don't really know what to do with this character and we've written a story where they aren't needed, but screw it they're part of the toyline so just throw them in anyway" vibe

I liked ice robot though, his gimmick was cute :3: and he's the only one who seemed like he might have an interesting backstory.

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

~Groovy~



I just hope it has an Asian cast.

Ghost in a Shell bombed, and white was brought up when studio executives were trying to figure out why, so maybe things will be different this time. Who knows though.

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

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starkebn posted:

everyone in this thread deserves to know about Cuphead

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3835969

Cuphead is one of those games I love to watch get played, but I would hate playing myself. Because drat the animation is gorgeous, but I do not have the skills to enjoy it on my own.

But if you've got better twitch reflexes then me and think you might enjoy things like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJYCsI81uhQ and this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ff6PO8MA3Yg you should totally check it out.

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

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I still can't believe this is finally getting made.

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

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Pick posted:

Same but Goffmaniada.

Say what now? (one googling later) Oh: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoffmaniada That does look interesting.

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

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Awwwww, I wanted to see that one....

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

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Shadow Hog posted:

From what I heard, they also had to shelve what had been their next planned 2D animated film after Winnie the Pooh (2011). That is, John Lasseter had planned to alternate the Disney Animated Canon CG films and traditional 2D ones for a while, not just give the latter a final hurrah with Princess and the Frog and Pooh and otherwise go all-in on the former like everyone else.

The rub is, that planned film was a traditionally-animated adaptation of Discworld novel Mort, but the rights to it fell through - either due to the asking price, or on account of a live-action adaptation of The Colour of Magic, or something. The 2D unit didn't really recover from that, hence why we're where we are.

That's a darn shame because an animated version of Mort would be amazing.

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

~Groovy~


Pick posted:

HOW DARE YOU!? HOW DARE YOU COME TO ME NOW, when I am THIS! :gonk:

This scene always makes me cry for reasons that are hard to explain and yet also very simple.

The last Unicorn is a good movie/book that gives me a lot of complicated emotions.

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

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Barudak posted:

Something that gets me is that that sequence follows Molly Grue’s entire known social circle (one of whom carved his affections for her into a tree) leaving and never once again appearing in the film. Like she isnt just old, her life is also in complete shambles it will not recover from.

But she does recover, and that's what makes that scene so great: her whole life she's been told that beautiful and magical things only happen to women when they're young and pure, and now that she's no longer that way they'll never happen to her. But that was just a lie, and the moment she sees the Unicorn she realizes that. It's painful and overwhelming because she's been waiting for it for so long; but it's also wonderful because even though something magical isn't happening when it's supposed to happen it's still happening and it's still beautiful. It wasn't too late for her. Her life never goes back to what it was, instead it becomes something better. :unsmith:

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

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the old ceremony posted:

my theory on the butterfly is that he knows he's only going to live for like three days, being a butterfly, so when a unicorn asks him questions he's like gently caress you you're going to live forever and you're wasting my valuable time? i'll show you bitch

In the book it explains that all butterflies are extremely hyperactive and flighty and can't really concentrate very well when you try to talk to them. The butterfly is trying his best, really, he's just not designed to sit still and have straight forward conversations.

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

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Desperado Bones posted:

Funny news. People complained so much about the Frozen short that it made the national news in my country and theaters just started to remove it. :lol:

What's wrong with it? I haven't really been keeping up with all the latest Frozen news.

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

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Just saw Coco, it was good and made me cry. It was also kind of formulaic, but that's not that much of a sin.

Sitting through the Frozen "short" at the beginning sucked though. It would be fine if it was a made for TV special airing on the Disney Channel (which I strongly suspect it was supposed to be), but don't just randomly stick that poo poo in front of another movie. Someone in marketing really screwed up with that idea.

Space Cadet Omoly fucked around with this message at 03:16 on Nov 27, 2017

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

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Pick posted:

They realized it could not possibly compete with the Trolls holiday special because Trolls KICKS rear end!

oh shoot, I forgot to watch that.

Is it worth tracking down? Is it as surprisingly good as the movie? Or more of a quick cash grab?

Waffleman_ posted:

All I know is that the McElroy Brothers will be in Trolls 2 and that's good enough for me.

The McElroy brothers have been getting a lot of voice acting gigs lately and I like to think it's all because they want to build a reel to submit for Trolls 2.

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

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paradoxGentleman posted:

Is there such a thing as a good Barbie movie?

Probably, the Barbie Dreamhouse Adventures had some pretty good moments. See, if movies like "Cinderella 3: A Twist in Time" and "The Lego Batman Movie" have taught me anything it's this: talented people can make a good movie out of any concept no matter how ridiculous. I mean it doesn't always happen, but it can.

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

~Groovy~


So I watched the new Trolls cartoon series on Netflix and I liked it. It has a style and humor that's very similar to Fraggle Rock: very colorful, friendly, and chill and just a little bit surreal and weird. Not life changing, but great for kids and adults looking for something mellow to watch while doing laundry or at the gym.

All of the troll side characters remain pretty annoying/bland/one-dimensional though, with the exception of Smidge. Now, even if you watched the Trolls movie you most likely don't remember Smidge so let me remind you who she was: Remember the little yellow troll who said "Ohmygod" in a deep voice? Probably not, but that was her. Her entire existence revolved around a joke that wasn't very funny, typical background character stuff. The TV show, however, actually gives her some decent characterization, and the most interesting part about that is you can tell it wasn't something that was planned but rather a thing that happened organically in the writers room.

See, the main characters and primary comedy duo of the show are Poppy and Branch. However, in certain episodes Poppy can't be paired up with Branch because the plot revolves around her keeping a secret from him. In these situations, to avoid having Poppy spend 11 minutes just talking to herself, the writings decide to pair her up with a sidekick and that sidekick is Smidge. Her personality just sort of grows naturally from there: Why is Poppy trusting Smidge to help her instead of one of her other idiot friends? Because Smidge isn't an idiot, she's actually pretty intelligent. If she's so intelligent why does she go along with Poppy's crazy plans? Because she's incredibly loyal to Poppy, to the point that it's super over the top. Is being loyal to Poppy the only thing she's over the top about? Oh no, she's super intense about everything she does, that's just the kind of troll she is. And there you go, Smidge is now a character with a personality that goes beyond having a stupid catchphrase!

It's a shame the writers couldn't flesh out the other background trolls the same way they did Smidge, but then they only had 12 episodes (each of which is only 11 minutes long) to work with and they're not miracle workers.

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Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

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Waffleman_ posted:

I'm not sure, but I adore Tatami Galaxy so I'm assuming it's good!

Lu Over the Wall is about a sixth grade boy falling in love with a magic toddler. It's as creepy as it sounds.

Just because a person makes one great thing doesn't mean everything else they make is flawless (animation is still fantastic though).

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