Pacific Northwest Thread Mk. II: Crossing the Duwamish

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What regions belong in the Pacific Northwest?
	Alaska, US
	British Columbia, CA
	Washington, US
	Oregon, US
	Idaho, US
	Montana, US
	Wyoming, US
	California, US (MODS PLEASE BAN ANYONE VOTING FOR THIS OPTION TIA)

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GodFish: Oct 10, 2012; We're your first, last, and only line of defense. We live in secret. We exist in shadow.

And we dress in black.

The one ad I saw this season was Durkan saying that Moon saying she would stop sweeping homeless camps was anti-progressive. Imagine voting for the person who put out that bullshit.

# ¿ Nov 8, 2017 23:24

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# ¿ May 12, 2024 18:42

GodFish: Oct 10, 2012; We're your first, last, and only line of defense. We live in secret. We exist in shadow.

And we dress in black.

IM DAY DAY IRL posted:

have you considered that acab

# ¿ Dec 9, 2017 02:16

GodFish: Oct 10, 2012; We're your first, last, and only line of defense. We live in secret. We exist in shadow.

And we dress in black.

Why? Why would Bush being a crude poo poo make the American, Afghani and Iraqi lives he took any more horrible? How does Trumps blatant racism make his deportations any worse than the record setting deportations under Obama?

# ¿ Jan 22, 2018 00:34

GodFish: Oct 10, 2012; We're your first, last, and only line of defense. We live in secret. We exist in shadow.

And we dress in black.

ElCondemn posted:

You're just regurgitating "fake news", there were fewer removals and returns under the Obama administration than each of the two prior administrations.

https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/obama-record-deportations-deporter-chief-or-not

Oh, that's interesting and good to know, thanks. But I'll replace the question with say, drone strikes, and let the overall point stand.

# ¿ Jan 22, 2018 01:29

GodFish: Oct 10, 2012; We're your first, last, and only line of defense. We live in secret. We exist in shadow.

And we dress in black.

Argas posted:

The answer is that much of the world is built on the exploitation of others and we'll enforce it via violence. It's good if you're not okay with it but changing one important cog in the machine isn't going to suddenly change things.

I mean we could suddenly change things by not having a president who drone strikes people constantly.

# ¿ Jan 22, 2018 11:14

GodFish: Oct 10, 2012; We're your first, last, and only line of defense. We live in secret. We exist in shadow.

And we dress in black.

Shifty Nipples posted:

Lemme get right on that.

Because dude had the joystick in his hands laughing maniacally.

I'm sure the president has nothing to do with our countries military policy and actually didn't want to do drone strikes or to stay in Iraq and Afghanistan but the mean old army wouldn't listen.

# ¿ Jan 22, 2018 20:25

GodFish: Oct 10, 2012; We're your first, last, and only line of defense. We live in secret. We exist in shadow.

And we dress in black.

cheetah7071 posted:

Seattle isn't Portland but making all your friends in college then slowly losing them to attrition while making no new ones in years has been a winning strategy so far

that sure is my seattle experience! Can recommend

# ¿ Feb 11, 2018 22:47

GodFish: Oct 10, 2012; We're your first, last, and only line of defense. We live in secret. We exist in shadow.

And we dress in black.

punk rebel ecks posted:

Travel Oregon makes the best ads period:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXRBLyQQ78A

Oregon: "Making Anime Real"

I've seen those rocks at 45 seconds and they're in Washington.

# ¿ Mar 13, 2018 06:36

GodFish: Oct 10, 2012; We're your first, last, and only line of defense. We live in secret. We exist in shadow.

And we dress in black.

anthonypants posted:

Nice try. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haystack_Rock

Huh, we must have a really similar looking pair up near Copalis Beach

# ¿ Mar 13, 2018 06:41

GodFish: Oct 10, 2012; We're your first, last, and only line of defense. We live in secret. We exist in shadow.

And we dress in black.

I guess I'm just a geological illiterate because I only know what Devil's Tower looks like, and only because I've been there.

# ¿ Mar 13, 2018 07:21

GodFish: Oct 10, 2012; We're your first, last, and only line of defense. We live in secret. We exist in shadow.

And we dress in black.

He wasn't actually a cop but he was a shithead

# ¿ Mar 14, 2018 01:40

GodFish: Oct 10, 2012; We're your first, last, and only line of defense. We live in secret. We exist in shadow.

And we dress in black.

Where is this mall that sells katana?

# ¿ Mar 15, 2018 20:21

GodFish: Oct 10, 2012; We're your first, last, and only line of defense. We live in secret. We exist in shadow.

And we dress in black.

Thanatosian posted:

Don't most malls have that weird knife/sword store, that also sells pewter wizards holding crystals?

I clearly need to investigate the local mall more closely when I go there next in, *checks calendar* three years?

# ¿ Mar 15, 2018 20:28

GodFish: Oct 10, 2012; We're your first, last, and only line of defense. We live in secret. We exist in shadow.

And we dress in black.

therobit posted:

I agree with you but it seems like this argument happens in this thread monthly and it will end with the communists proclaiming that it is private ownership of property that is the problem and everyone else giving up because they recognize that there are very few shared principles to work from.

give me your loving toothbrush

# ¿ Mar 21, 2018 01:36

GodFish: Oct 10, 2012; We're your first, last, and only line of defense. We live in secret. We exist in shadow.

And we dress in black.

Good news sure does feel weird

# ¿ Apr 5, 2018 20:26

GodFish: Oct 10, 2012; We're your first, last, and only line of defense. We live in secret. We exist in shadow.

And we dress in black.

I saw someone asking for signatures for something like "no grocery tax", does anyone know the specifics on that are?

# ¿ Jun 10, 2018 03:08

GodFish: Oct 10, 2012; We're your first, last, and only line of defense. We live in secret. We exist in shadow.

And we dress in black.

xrunner posted:

Grocery stores want to be tax exempt because you see any tax on a grocery store is a hidden sales tax on groceries. It really is that stupid.

https://www.opb.org/news/article/oregon-sales-tax-groceries-ballot-measure-initiative/

https://ballotpedia.org/Oregon_Ban_Tax_on_Groceries_Initiative_(2018)

Or less dismissively: in 2016 grocery stores used the hidden sales tax argument to defeat a corporate tax hike. It was a very successful if dishonest strategy and they determined that they can use the same argument to get a huge break from future taxes on revenue from selling food so Walmart and Kroger are going for the prize.

I had a feeling it was something like that, thanks.

# ¿ Jun 10, 2018 05:08

GodFish: Oct 10, 2012; We're your first, last, and only line of defense. We live in secret. We exist in shadow.

And we dress in black.

Cantwell votes against progressive platforms somewhat regularly

# ¿ Jul 18, 2018 23:30

GodFish: Oct 10, 2012; We're your first, last, and only line of defense. We live in secret. We exist in shadow.

And we dress in black.

cameron.steene posted:

Trump is the best thing that has ever happened to this country.

Hi welcome to the thread, we're 126 pages and almost 2 years further along now, I hope you'll join us here in the bright future of 2018

# ¿ Sep 21, 2018 13:20

GodFish: Oct 10, 2012; We're your first, last, and only line of defense. We live in secret. We exist in shadow.

And we dress in black.

Dungeon Ecology posted:

Do you realize that someone taking pac/corporate money has no incentive to ban those donations because it'd cut them off from that valuable source of money? The only way to change campaign finance reform is to either elect someone who already won't take it, so has no downside to banning it, or to refuse to vote for someone who does, so that the cost of taking it is higher (not being elected) than the downside (not getting the money) if you always vote for lesser evils you'll never get someone who isn't evil.

Also anyone recieving corporate donations is probably also already bought and sold by big money interests.

# ¿ Oct 15, 2018 22:18

GodFish: Oct 10, 2012; We're your first, last, and only line of defense. We live in secret. We exist in shadow.

And we dress in black.

Dungeon Ecology posted:

those are some nice thoughts. a republican will always beat a democrat (or otherwise) who does not take campaign contributions from PACs or corporations. as long as we are a capitalist nation, this will never not be true

your right good things aren't possible, so why should you vote at all? as long as we vote in capitalists we will never not be a capitalist nation and by your logic only capitalists will ever win. Also some people have won without PAC or corporate money so you're actually wrong. It must be nice to know that nothing good will ever happen and so it's fine to just accept the garbage state we're in as the best possible future so you can comfortably vote for monsters.

anthonypants posted:

Remember that time Kate Brown signed a letter Comcast wrote for her

lol

# ¿ Oct 15, 2018 22:42

GodFish: Oct 10, 2012; We're your first, last, and only line of defense. We live in secret. We exist in shadow.

And we dress in black.

Dungeon Ecology posted:

oh wow, that was p mean.

i never said don't vote, i encourage everyone to vote. this is the kind of vitriol that stops people from having meaningful conversations, if you come to the table accusing me of telling people not to vote or comfortably voting for 'monsters.' Yeah, you hate Kate Brown, but is she a monster? or does she just represent the kind of centrist ideals that don't fall in line with your thinking.

this kind of hyperbolic talk doesn't do anything besides virtue signal that you're better than other people.

I'm not saying you don't vote, I'm saying that kind of reasoning would mean voting is pointless. Why should anyone vote for someone who actively perpetuates a broken system that works against their own interests? The republicans hate me and the democrats wish I would politely shut up and die slowly and your suggestion is "it'll always be like that, vote for the people who want you to not put up a fuss and die quietly"

Centrist ideals are the ideals that are monstrous. The setup of our healthcare system kills people every day. Our police state kills people every day. Our economy condemns people to slow death of poverty every day. Our homeless policies routinely kill people in homeless camps via sweeps every day. Our deportation system under both democrat and republicans kills people, separates families and locks children in cages every day. Our foreign policy slaughters millions abroad. Centrist ideals have no objection to that, they stand by maintaining this system on the grounds that it either works or "the alternative is worse". Centrist ideals are abhorrent and are only made to look otherwise by complicity and the sheer magnitude of the vileness and vocal hate of the republican platform.

# ¿ Oct 15, 2018 23:34

GodFish: Oct 10, 2012; We're your first, last, and only line of defense. We live in secret. We exist in shadow.

And we dress in black.

Dungeon Ecology posted:

There's one party thats cemented itself as anti-choice, anti-labor, anti-woman, anti-immigrant, anti-black, anti-union, anti-environment, anti-education, and pro-corporation. The democrats are at worst, just republicans in sheeps clothing, buuuuuttt, at best they are actually fighting for the rights of the disenfranchised.

Here's the thing, Democrats do, occasionally, make laws that benefit the disenfranchised. Usually it's helping rich members of minority groups get the same privileges as other rich people while leaving everyone else in the gutter, but sometimes it's restoring voting rights for prisoners or something else unambiguously good. It does happen. The problem is they do so much more that hurts those groups, it ends up being a net negative almost as bad as the gop's general policy. Now prisoners can vote again, but we need child prisoners to fight wildfires for 1$ a day and no choice while denying them firefighting positions on release. Is it good that they can vote now? Yes. Are Democrats still responsible for these horrifying practices? Also Yes.

# ¿ Oct 16, 2018 07:29

GodFish: Oct 10, 2012; We're your first, last, and only line of defense. We live in secret. We exist in shadow.

And we dress in black.

therobit posted:

Politicians do things that their constituents demand, so they can get elected.

They almost universally don't though, studies have found essentially no correlation between what voters want and what gets passed, but a huge correlation between what rich donors want and what gets passed.

# ¿ Oct 16, 2018 23:26

GodFish: Oct 10, 2012; We're your first, last, and only line of defense. We live in secret. We exist in shadow.

And we dress in black.

To be fair it already does

# ¿ Oct 19, 2018 08:18

GodFish: Oct 10, 2012; We're your first, last, and only line of defense. We live in secret. We exist in shadow.

And we dress in black.

Stop police

# ¿ Oct 21, 2018 06:41

GodFish: Oct 10, 2012; We're your first, last, and only line of defense. We live in secret. We exist in shadow.

And we dress in black.

there were a whole bunch of rules about duels you didn't just go into town square to shoot each other at high noon on the drop of a penny, and the people who could get away with shooting someone in a bar were in bed with the local sheriffs, which existed in the american western frontier and were, shockingly, corrupt, just like today

# ¿ Oct 23, 2018 07:58

GodFish: Oct 10, 2012; We're your first, last, and only line of defense. We live in secret. We exist in shadow.

And we dress in black.

The thing about owning a gun is: if the cops decide to take all our guns, or whatever, having guns isn't going to stop them because they can project so much more force than any one person can. Anyone stockpiling guns for that reason is a nut.

But, if communities that regularly get harassed by the cops are armed, then the police have to think a bit more about picking a fight during their everyday work and patrols and poo poo. If cops were getting shot when they decide to murder people on the street, there'd be less cops murdering people on the street.

# ¿ Oct 28, 2018 23:23

GodFish: Oct 10, 2012; We're your first, last, and only line of defense. We live in secret. We exist in shadow.

And we dress in black.

A guy I know who is on disability and section 8 housing is getting kicked out of a place he's rented for 30 years because they want to stop being section 8 and rent to amazon employees for way more money, clearly he should have just signed a 40 year lease so he couldn't be no cause evicted

# ¿ Feb 24, 2019 01:38

GodFish: Oct 10, 2012; We're your first, last, and only line of defense. We live in secret. We exist in shadow.

And we dress in black.

I watched the first few minutes, got really mad, skipped ten minutes in and got madder, skipped maybe halfway in and got furious and turned it off.

# ¿ Apr 17, 2019 00:43

GodFish: Oct 10, 2012; We're your first, last, and only line of defense. We live in secret. We exist in shadow.

And we dress in black.

Seems to have been an alias to avoid doxxing

# ¿ Jul 14, 2019 23:09

GodFish: Oct 10, 2012; We're your first, last, and only line of defense. We live in secret. We exist in shadow.

And we dress in black.

Was DeWolf any good? I assumed he was trash based on the pro corporate dogwhistles in his leaflets and the fact that he was running against Kshama.

# ¿ Aug 9, 2019 03:13

GodFish: Oct 10, 2012; We're your first, last, and only line of defense. We live in secret. We exist in shadow.

And we dress in black.

what

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gently caress

# ¿ Sep 25, 2019 07:21

GodFish: Oct 10, 2012; We're your first, last, and only line of defense. We live in secret. We exist in shadow.

And we dress in black.

There's usually some marked down steaks at half off

# ¿ Oct 11, 2019 21:08

GodFish: Oct 10, 2012; We're your first, last, and only line of defense. We live in secret. We exist in shadow.

And we dress in black.

Vivian Darkbloom posted:

seen today in Vancouver: guns with assigned genders?

Ah yes, the two gunders.

# ¿ Oct 19, 2019 05:50

GodFish: Oct 10, 2012; We're your first, last, and only line of defense. We live in secret. We exist in shadow.

And we dress in black.

Orion doesn't want me to be able to live in seattle, tell me more about how moderate the loving corporate suit is please

also lmao at this dumbass poo poo

inkblottime posted:

That's kind of what I was talking about. The west-side has blinders on and I think that is a concern. I've become more conservative with age but I think I'm still left of moderate. Maybe I'm out of touch with the new generation of politics but it seems like it's gotten a lot harder to have a conversation about working as a state instead of sides of an issue without being call a traitor to one side. The tax issue is big in this state but the west-side can more easily afford it so the minority on the east-side have to suffer in silence and throw darts when they can. I-976 feels like a bulls-eye for how our state feels about the current taxation methods. This is just my theory.

# ¿ Nov 7, 2019 01:55

GodFish: Oct 10, 2012; We're your first, last, and only line of defense. We live in secret. We exist in shadow.

And we dress in black.

inkblottime posted:

I actually don't know much about Orion except for his union ties. Tell me how he doesn't want you to live in Seattle. There's no need for hostility because you disagree with my assessment.

Hi kshama supports the headtax and other socialist policies that would allow me to continue living in the city I was born in at a minimum wage. Orion is running against her funded by amazon and the chamber of commerce because he and they oppose these things. Hope that helps

# ¿ Nov 7, 2019 08:54

GodFish: Oct 10, 2012; We're your first, last, and only line of defense. We live in secret. We exist in shadow.

And we dress in black.

thank loving god

# ¿ Nov 9, 2019 08:23

GodFish: Oct 10, 2012; We're your first, last, and only line of defense. We live in secret. We exist in shadow.

And we dress in black.

https://twitter.com/hodakatebi/status/1213884280239087616

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# ¿ May 12, 2024 18:42

GodFish: Oct 10, 2012; We're your first, last, and only line of defense. We live in secret. We exist in shadow.

And we dress in black.

At Cal Anderson police line 4-7ish a couple people kept coming up and telling us the cops weren't the enemy and we were inciting them to attack. Bunch of bullshit. Lot of saying antifa was going to start poo poo and we have to vote. That part of the protest wasn't having it at least.

# ¿ Jun 3, 2020 08:05

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