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unseenlibrarian: Jun 4, 2012; There's only one thing in the mountains that leaves a track like this. The creature of legend that roams the Timberline. My people named him Sasquatch. You call him... Bigfoot.

Honestly I don't think gear porn is a bad thing in a Star Wars game given how much of on screen time in the movies is spent with people doing tune ups to vehicles and robots and etc but it shouldn't be like...lists of guns and vehicles, but more something...actively engaged with somehow.

Like a PBTA game would give Han Solo some move about tuning up the Falcon (and it turns out the player assigned his worst stat to that roll so he gets 6- all the time.)

# ¿ Oct 5, 2017 16:36

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# ¿ May 14, 2024 02:50

unseenlibrarian: Jun 4, 2012; There's only one thing in the mountains that leaves a track like this. The creature of legend that roams the Timberline. My people named him Sasquatch. You call him... Bigfoot.

Works okay in PBP too since Orokos added those dice a couple years back.

# ¿ Oct 5, 2017 17:24

unseenlibrarian: Jun 4, 2012; There's only one thing in the mountains that leaves a track like this. The creature of legend that roams the Timberline. My people named him Sasquatch. You call him... Bigfoot.

KittyEmpress posted:

The actual benefit of iajutsu as written is... for weapons other than the katana. For instance the wakizashi has two less damage than the katana, but the same Deadliness. A few other weapons also have a large gap between damage and Deadliness, which gives that ability to switch damage and Deadliness some worth. Amusingly, this means the best way to use it is to carry a bunch of minor weapons that you iajutsu out and then drop to the floor so you can repeat it the next turn.

FFG L5R, now the best RPG for Blade of the Immortal gaming.

# ¿ Oct 10, 2017 15:54

unseenlibrarian: Jun 4, 2012; There's only one thing in the mountains that leaves a track like this. The creature of legend that roams the Timberline. My people named him Sasquatch. You call him... Bigfoot.

There's at least one and probably more Fiasco Horror scenarios for something rules light.

# ¿ Oct 19, 2017 17:00

unseenlibrarian: Jun 4, 2012; There's only one thing in the mountains that leaves a track like this. The creature of legend that roams the Timberline. My people named him Sasquatch. You call him... Bigfoot.

Hell, including liberal arts in the curriculum already makes it a more well-rounded education than hogwarts.

# ¿ Oct 23, 2017 17:23

unseenlibrarian: Jun 4, 2012; There's only one thing in the mountains that leaves a track like this. The creature of legend that roams the Timberline. My people named him Sasquatch. You call him... Bigfoot.

Elfgames posted:

i don't think that's true. harry just took the most basic bitch/mickey mouse courses he could.

Except the curriculum is shared in the first year before electives come up and even after that he had significant overlap with Hermione, who was absolutely on the meganerd track. Pretty sure Hogwarts literally just doesn't include regular mundane schoolwork.

# ¿ Oct 23, 2017 17:36

unseenlibrarian: Jun 4, 2012; There's only one thing in the mountains that leaves a track like this. The creature of legend that roams the Timberline. My people named him Sasquatch. You call him... Bigfoot.

Popular genre doesn't really convert to there should be an RPG for it. Like I can count the number of police procedural RPGs on the fingers of one hand, mostly because there's no way to mechanically represent "Oh hey, that's a semi-prolific character actor he must be the killer'

Hell, except for things like TORG and the Strange which aren't quite the same thing, there's never really been a portal fantasy RPG, despite that being one of the bigger fantasy subgenres.

(I think there was an ICE attempt to do a Narnia RPG based on the MERP system but I'm not sure it was ever released)

# ¿ Oct 25, 2017 15:17

unseenlibrarian: Jun 4, 2012; There's only one thing in the mountains that leaves a track like this. The creature of legend that roams the Timberline. My people named him Sasquatch. You call him... Bigfoot.

The weird thing is the one time the 4E marketing actually mentioned MMOs it was as a negative, all about "So we looked at how tanking in MMOs worked, how the tank classes use abilities to generate hate that makes enemies more likely to attack them and we figured that this would not work with a tabletop game, since the monsters are under the control of the DM" so then they came up with Marking instead.

But just the idea of them looking at MMOs at all broke people.

# ¿ Oct 26, 2017 00:36

unseenlibrarian: Jun 4, 2012; There's only one thing in the mountains that leaves a track like this. The creature of legend that roams the Timberline. My people named him Sasquatch. You call him... Bigfoot.

occamsnailfile posted:

I do remember this brief window in time and it was something that made me happy for that reason...until they went and ruined it. Also the show's creator kind of ruined the show IIRC but I actually never watched it.

Hoping the brony-types have all been drawn to the Rick & Morty honeypot and leave Steven Universe alone.

Early on there were people trying to make "Gemtlemen" a thing for adult white dude fans of SU and no one was having it.

# ¿ Oct 31, 2017 01:06

unseenlibrarian: Jun 4, 2012; There's only one thing in the mountains that leaves a track like this. The creature of legend that roams the Timberline. My people named him Sasquatch. You call him... Bigfoot.

Hostile V posted:

Thanks! I hate this!

Man, I just ate and now I have regrets from reading that.

# ¿ Oct 31, 2017 18:39

unseenlibrarian: Jun 4, 2012; There's only one thing in the mountains that leaves a track like this. The creature of legend that roams the Timberline. My people named him Sasquatch. You call him... Bigfoot.

I am reminded I really should dig out my notes for an LOSH hack for Masks and figure out what else is needs since it doesn't entirely handle it well out of the box and that's like...one of the quintessential "Teen Team" books that are theoretically it's wheelhouse.

# ¿ Nov 1, 2017 00:57

unseenlibrarian: Jun 4, 2012; There's only one thing in the mountains that leaves a track like this. The creature of legend that roams the Timberline. My people named him Sasquatch. You call him... Bigfoot.

I think they just said they wouldn't hire him for anything else.

# ¿ Nov 2, 2017 02:53

unseenlibrarian: Jun 4, 2012; There's only one thing in the mountains that leaves a track like this. The creature of legend that roams the Timberline. My people named him Sasquatch. You call him... Bigfoot.

Note that most of the folks working on Meta-4 via Super Unicorn had significant overlap with folks who went on to create Paizo. Erik Mona and Sean Glenn, for example. If I had to guess, they dropped working on M&M because they got busy doing the 3.x version of Dragon and Dungeon.

# ¿ Nov 3, 2017 18:59

unseenlibrarian: Jun 4, 2012; There's only one thing in the mountains that leaves a track like this. The creature of legend that roams the Timberline. My people named him Sasquatch. You call him... Bigfoot.

Evil Mastermind posted:

The answer, as always, is beef.

I'm guessing SJ decided to let the beef go in the wake of Wieck's passing away this year, then.

# ¿ Nov 14, 2017 06:11

unseenlibrarian: Jun 4, 2012; There's only one thing in the mountains that leaves a track like this. The creature of legend that roams the Timberline. My people named him Sasquatch. You call him... Bigfoot.

It's because at the time strength governed fatigue and more fatigue let you cast more spells, IIRC. It's similar to the Tunnels and Trolls 'problem' where Wizards had to get super buff because casting spells temporarily lowered your strength so more muscle meant more power.

# ¿ Nov 15, 2017 12:31

unseenlibrarian: Jun 4, 2012; There's only one thing in the mountains that leaves a track like this. The creature of legend that roams the Timberline. My people named him Sasquatch. You call him... Bigfoot.

This is why problem was in quote marks! (But apparently the number one T&T house rule was to go Runequest and make a separate 'power' stat that only spellcasters used. On the other hand 3 of the four classes were spellcasters, so.)

# ¿ Nov 15, 2017 12:32

unseenlibrarian: Jun 4, 2012; There's only one thing in the mountains that leaves a track like this. The creature of legend that roams the Timberline. My people named him Sasquatch. You call him... Bigfoot.

gtrmp posted:

Now that SJG and Palladium are on DTRPG, what other holdouts are left? Paizo, Atlas Games... anyone else of note not on DTRPG?

Atlas is on DTRG? Or at least, Unknown armies 3rd and Feng Shui 2nd are, and a bunch of their d20 stuff and some past-edition Ars Magica stuff.

unseenlibrarian fucked around with this message at 14:12 on Nov 16, 2017

# ¿ Nov 16, 2017 14:09

unseenlibrarian: Jun 4, 2012; There's only one thing in the mountains that leaves a track like this. The creature of legend that roams the Timberline. My people named him Sasquatch. You call him... Bigfoot.

Some dude in a golden chariot dropping out of the sky to demand the two people fighting with blantantly obviously magical weapons join him in conquering the world as his allies seems like it could be at least some sort of exalted inspiration.

(This is literally the only Fate/Zero scene I've seen)

# ¿ Nov 17, 2017 18:34

unseenlibrarian: Jun 4, 2012; There's only one thing in the mountains that leaves a track like this. The creature of legend that roams the Timberline. My people named him Sasquatch. You call him... Bigfoot.

At one point in Gate, a character literally wonders "Wow, could Japan ever commit wartime atrocities like these" while looking at the fantasy army that just invaded Tokyo via a magical portal.

Also at one point Americans try to capture some fantasy people to interrogate (Because Japan isn't giving them enough access to intel on the fantasy world) and there's a whole thing about how only Americans would have black spec-ops.

Gate is bad.

# ¿ Nov 18, 2017 20:13

unseenlibrarian: Jun 4, 2012; There's only one thing in the mountains that leaves a track like this. The creature of legend that roams the Timberline. My people named him Sasquatch. You call him... Bigfoot.

I had the dwarves, gremlins, and all the various household/crafting faeries organized into a trade union council in an alt history/urban fantasy game with open magic I did ages ago. They did have a king/queen, but that was mostly to satisfy traditionalist elf groups like Underhill and the Queen of Air and Darkness, and the monarch's only job was being the person who had be the liaison with the other elves courts. Most politicking around the throne was different people finding very rational excuses why they couldn't take the job and trying to throw someone under the bus instead.

(This was the same game where the Red Scares and McCarthyism were focused on Elven court sympathies because the Bolsheviks were international martyrs for trying to assassinate Koschei the deathless when he claimed the throne of Russia.)

# ¿ Nov 24, 2017 01:55

unseenlibrarian: Jun 4, 2012; There's only one thing in the mountains that leaves a track like this. The creature of legend that roams the Timberline. My people named him Sasquatch. You call him... Bigfoot.

The What system should I use megathread , maybe?

# ¿ Nov 28, 2017 17:58

unseenlibrarian: Jun 4, 2012; There's only one thing in the mountains that leaves a track like this. The creature of legend that roams the Timberline. My people named him Sasquatch. You call him... Bigfoot.

gradenko_2000 posted:

would sending people money via PayPal be in any way an improvement?

A friend who runs a Patreon has looked into it after a patron asked, and basically once you're getting a regular monthly payment Paypal starts treating you as a storefront and it's a whole lotta extra bullshit to deal with.

# ¿ Dec 8, 2017 05:59

unseenlibrarian: Jun 4, 2012; There's only one thing in the mountains that leaves a track like this. The creature of legend that roams the Timberline. My people named him Sasquatch. You call him... Bigfoot.

DC Adventures is just straight up Mutants and Masterminds 3E with all the inherent flaws thereof including, "Is published by Green Ronin" since I don't think they've ever actually apologized or anything for the lovely way they reacted to the harassment charges against CA Suleiman.

# ¿ Dec 10, 2017 21:21

unseenlibrarian: Jun 4, 2012; There's only one thing in the mountains that leaves a track like this. The creature of legend that roams the Timberline. My people named him Sasquatch. You call him... Bigfoot.

There's a paid quickstart up for the Sentinels of the Multiverse RPG on Drivethrough, which is sort of "Cam Banks takes lessoned learned in MHR and tries a similar game with a different license."

Apparently there's a kickstarter on the way for the full game at some point soon.

# ¿ Dec 10, 2017 22:57

unseenlibrarian: Jun 4, 2012; There's only one thing in the mountains that leaves a track like this. The creature of legend that roams the Timberline. My people named him Sasquatch. You call him... Bigfoot.

gradenko_2000 posted:

If anyone's been reading through or even playing Fragged Kingdoms, I'd love to get some first impressions.

Been reading, though haven't had time to play yet.

It's sort of more immediately post-apocalyptic than even your typical fantasy setting; forty years ago there was a massive war with the Archdruid, a servant of the goddess Neph, which ended when he was assassinated by parties unknown. The Archdruid warped the landscape with druid magic, poisoning the land, turning animals into monsters, and you know, typical evil druid things all with the goal of basically wiping out intelligent life on the planet and starting over from the primal state. One of the last known holdouts on the continent was Stronghold and Pol's Rest, who were built atop the body of the fallen god Pol. Thanks to an attack by a Nephilim dragon shortly after the death of the druid, a lot of the land and water around them has been poisoned. So Stronghold's now formed the Vanguard, an organization to go resettle the land, find new sources of fresh water and food, and find out what's happened in the world since then. One of the big mechanical widgets is establishing new settlements by leveraging your fame as an adventurer once you've cleared out the threats that could wipe out a new colony.

It's also explicitly set in the far-distant future of the Fragged Empire setting and a lot of the descriptions of fantasy elements are followed by what the truth is -the Goddess Neph is a nephilim bio-ship in orbit. The Spirits that are worshiped by one of the major religions are Faren, the energy beings that used to live in symbiosis with the Twi-far, and so on. The Corporates aren't around- there's remnants of their outposts, and two of the gods are associated with them, but no actual signs of the corporate/Vargati species on the planet, which also means there's no playable race that's basically human-like. (Twi and Kaltoran are -kind- of, but Twi are glowing orange and Kaltorans have four ears and genetic memory)

# ¿ Dec 13, 2017 12:31

unseenlibrarian: Jun 4, 2012; There's only one thing in the mountains that leaves a track like this. The creature of legend that roams the Timberline. My people named him Sasquatch. You call him... Bigfoot.

It's more tweaks than changes- there's now head armor and body armor as separate numbers. There's new weapon statlines for basically all the medieval weapons, and some weapons now have two statlines depending on how you use them, some of which may take different variations.

There are guns in setting, treated as crossbow only variations that you can only get as loot from ruins and they usually have limited ammo. Kingdoms adds crafting as a downtime only activity that requires trade boxes to do, and some weapons can only be created with crafting spare time rolls.

Big mechanical change with all three settings is the use of Momentum. You gain momentum for various actions, and some weapons and outfits gain benefits when at max momentum (=your focus) or gives you the spend momentum to gain other abilities, or both.

# ¿ Dec 13, 2017 13:06

unseenlibrarian: Jun 4, 2012; There's only one thing in the mountains that leaves a track like this. The creature of legend that roams the Timberline. My people named him Sasquatch. You call him... Bigfoot.

There are three(four) kinds of wizard and one kind of cleric.

Alchemists, who are basically using half-understood science and mixing together volatile chemicals and/or drugs probably past their expiration date to create 'magic potions' and explosives.

Ta-di shamans, who do weird poo poo with the Faren, energy being aliens that bond with people symbiotically. They used to only bond with one other race in Fragged Kingdoms, the Twi-Far, but now they can bond with other people and animals (And when they bond with the race with genetic memory they sort of personify the ancestors that the Kaltoran 'remembers')

Enchanters, who are psychics and can cloud minds or mind-zap people or inspire their allies.

All-power, who basically folks who get their glowy weird powers from their bond with a different kind of energy being- specifically, the all-being, the entity that raised the Remnant from the dead in Fragged Empire. The presumed backstory is that the Remnant managed to cure the disease that would kill them without the All-being's constant intervention so now they don't all follow it and it can empower other people.

And then there's the druids, who are basically alchemists but using Nephilim biotech.

unseenlibrarian fucked around with this message at 16:48 on Dec 13, 2017

# ¿ Dec 13, 2017 16:16

unseenlibrarian: Jun 4, 2012; There's only one thing in the mountains that leaves a track like this. The creature of legend that roams the Timberline. My people named him Sasquatch. You call him... Bigfoot.

Yawgmoth posted:

In order: An attempt at a "nerd joke", probably not, yes, because the author doesn't know anything except D&D-alikes, because lol nerds only ever eat pizza, yes.

The author's actually the one who did a fairly good 'how to play Fate" breakdown comics, IIRC that were circulating here awhile back, IIRC, but...yeah. Those were instructional instead of an attempt at being funny.

# ¿ Dec 18, 2017 01:42

unseenlibrarian: Jun 4, 2012; There's only one thing in the mountains that leaves a track like this. The creature of legend that roams the Timberline. My people named him Sasquatch. You call him... Bigfoot.

Dude should probably stick to the "Explain how to play a game" comics and not try to tell jokes other than the Star Wars comic's shouty "I wanna be a wookie" guy which is a person that is actually in every Star Wars group.

# ¿ Dec 18, 2017 02:45

unseenlibrarian: Jun 4, 2012; There's only one thing in the mountains that leaves a track like this. The creature of legend that roams the Timberline. My people named him Sasquatch. You call him... Bigfoot.

Weirdly I found it a lot easier to wrap my head around Fragged Empire base game after reading the variants from the kickstarter.

unseenlibrarian fucked around with this message at 17:18 on Dec 20, 2017

# ¿ Dec 20, 2017 17:15

unseenlibrarian: Jun 4, 2012; There's only one thing in the mountains that leaves a track like this. The creature of legend that roams the Timberline. My people named him Sasquatch. You call him... Bigfoot.

The Fight Before Christmas also looks pretty good for doing a heist where you assemble a crack team of Grinches to steal a Holiday.

# ¿ Dec 20, 2017 18:13

unseenlibrarian: Jun 4, 2012; There's only one thing in the mountains that leaves a track like this. The creature of legend that roams the Timberline. My people named him Sasquatch. You call him... Bigfoot.

Weirdo posted:

It's a shame Bright is failing, because I would like to see a sympathetic orc hero in a movie

It's apparently already had a sequel order, despite the bad reviews, so.

# ¿ Dec 22, 2017 03:33

unseenlibrarian: Jun 4, 2012; There's only one thing in the mountains that leaves a track like this. The creature of legend that roams the Timberline. My people named him Sasquatch. You call him... Bigfoot.

Was tempted to watch Bright, hit the name of the production company and turned it off. "Trigger Warning Pictures" might be a thoughtful message of "We're going to make films that could be triggering for those with certain kinds of Post Traumatic Stress" but you know, given it's Max Landis and the Suicide Squad guy, kinda low on benefit of the doubt there.

# ¿ Dec 23, 2017 15:05

unseenlibrarian: Jun 4, 2012; There's only one thing in the mountains that leaves a track like this. The creature of legend that roams the Timberline. My people named him Sasquatch. You call him... Bigfoot.

Zerilan posted:

He used some practical tricks like using an arrow designed to fly slower for the hitting an arrow out of the air trick, and a lot of the stunts took dozen of attempts, but being able to shoot a small bow multiple times in quick succession is legitimate.

One of the old quotes from the contemporaries of the English longbowmen was that they were considered bad shots if they couldn't hit 12 aimed shots a minute, each one hitting the mark. (This was my dad's "REALISM!" thing in AD&D 1E and 2E, where he upped the attack rates of specialized archers; possibly one of the very few times where a shout of realism wasn't a -nerf- for martials.)

# ¿ Dec 27, 2017 19:47

unseenlibrarian: Jun 4, 2012; There's only one thing in the mountains that leaves a track like this. The creature of legend that roams the Timberline. My people named him Sasquatch. You call him... Bigfoot.

Pretty sure that was added for BG. 2E didn't have strength requirements by default, but you could pay extra to get a composite bow that granted your strength bonus to damage. This applied to any strength bonus, so if your fighter slapped on a belt of storm giant strength or something he was shooting arrows that did 1d8+12 damage with sheaf arrows, before you took into account any bonus from the bow or the arrows.

Bows getting strength to damage by being specially crafted was also buried somewhere in the middle of a paragraph in the 1E DMG about something entirely unrelated, IIRC, because Gygax. Literally no one used it until they spelled it out in the PHB in 2E.

unseenlibrarian fucked around with this message at 23:38 on Dec 27, 2017

# ¿ Dec 27, 2017 23:31

unseenlibrarian: Jun 4, 2012; There's only one thing in the mountains that leaves a track like this. The creature of legend that roams the Timberline. My people named him Sasquatch. You call him... Bigfoot.

Alertness cost more points than Spell focus is the most egregious one I remember.

# ¿ Dec 28, 2017 01:43

unseenlibrarian: Jun 4, 2012; There's only one thing in the mountains that leaves a track like this. The creature of legend that roams the Timberline. My people named him Sasquatch. You call him... Bigfoot.

Moriatti posted:

This putts 4e and 2e on top.
Where they should be.

This is Rules Cyclopedia erasure and I won't stand for it.

# ¿ Dec 28, 2017 16:57

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# ¿ May 14, 2024 02:50

unseenlibrarian: Jun 4, 2012; There's only one thing in the mountains that leaves a track like this. The creature of legend that roams the Timberline. My people named him Sasquatch. You call him... Bigfoot.

My problem with Savage worlds is that it's so average I forget how it works from session to session. But the PEG inc guys run a very professional kickstarter so I've given them money a few times anyway.

# ¿ Dec 31, 2017 23:46

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