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Agreed on 20th anniversary edition being the strongest core ruleset. I suggest Street Magic, Arsenal, and Augmentation as splatbooks.
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I have the weirdest urge after reading this page to run a game that involves punching lots of nazis. maybe after my cat is back home
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conversely, media such as tabletop games also serve as ways of communicating values to large bands of people, values such as "it is good to punch nazis"
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5e is Bad. I play 5th edition because it's what one of my real life tabletop groups wants to play, and my opinion doesn't matter when it's what the DM, who is a dude I like and respect, wants to run. The game is still fine and good for all that but it's good despite the system, not because of it. I also despise the gently caress out of Mearls, Zak S, RPGPundit, and the accompanying detritus. I think to pretend the latter two aren't toxic leeches on the hobby is ridiculous and I think the way Mearls handled poo poo for already-detailed reasons is horrible and put people I care about in danger by throwing kerosine on an already-pungent dumpster fire. So I tell people who want to play 5e about that poo poo. Because they should know and because I would want to know. I don't think they're evil for wanting to play it, or still wanting to play it after knowing. But they should know. And hopefully they should opt not to give WOTC any(more) of their money. I don't know if Arivia's been lambasting specific players of 5e just for liking 5e (as opposed to, say, limpwristedly attempting to defend Mearls or the assholes involved in that whole mess when it's brought up, which people seem to want to do for weird kneejerk reasons) because I haven't seen anything like that. All I've seen her do is talk about how the game is kind of poo poo (it is) and how some of the key people involved in its creation are poo poo (they are) albeit yes, pretty aggressively. I can get aggressive about it too, tbh. I still miss Mikan. Anyway this isn't to say what Arivia's posting in the 5e thread should or shouldn't look like going forward but it would be nice if all the information about that poo poo was toploaded in the OP or something so at least people stand a chance of being made aware of it when coming in cold without having it dragged out over and over to the general apparent despair of thread regulars.
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I have the itch to run 13th Age again and I want to whine about it.
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can we not chat about a tabletop game in this, of all threads,
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EscortMission posted:Hell yeah a discussion about "what other games besides D&D are good" becomes another discussion of "which D&D is bad/which D&D is good" all D&D (including pathfinder and 13th age because let's be honest) is bad, they merely differ in the ways in which they are bad, and if you truly wish to play D&D your quest is to find the version with the badness you can tolerate it's okay to like/play games that are bad though
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Feb 25, 2017 20:53
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let's not forget Paizo's collaboration with a figurine producer that makes, among other things, minis depicting rape and forced pregnancy I mean I realize this isn't remotely close to being entirely on her shoulders but given her inclination to threads like this she becomes very defensive and hostile when people point out that her own employer has done and keeps doing lovely things and the whole thing has never sat well with me.
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gradenko_2000 posted:My counter-argument would be that you probably shouldn't speak out on a topic that you know your own employer is also involved in, because you either omit or downplay your employer's own faults, which makes you look disingenuous, or you risk your employment by badmouthing your employer. This, pretty much. Okay, she's not willing to risk her position of relative incredible comfort to accept critiques about the things she posts about regarding her own employer to the point that she lashes out at people on Twitter that bring it up. Why is that laudable, again? I'm sure she tries her best within Paizo to promote the best environment she knows how, but being employed by them and writing for their lovely settings does make her complicit, no matter how much lipservice she extends to diversity on her Twitter account. It just strikes me as her doing the exact same performative milquetoast handwringing about ~problematic writing~ she's talking about in the least self-reflective way possible. Reene fucked around with this message at 11:35 on Mar 9, 2017 |
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gradenko_2000 posted:Alignment is more useful as a descriptor of what the character is currently doing, rather than a prescriptor of what the character should do I haven't even found it useful for that much. The arguments surrounding what is good or evil or lawful or chaotic are a subjective crapshoot because at least in the latest D&D core there is no coherent underpinning or framework for why X is a particular alignment but Y isn't. Case in point: necromancy. Core 5E describes it as intrinsically evil magic that only evil people use regularly. Why though? What about animating a corpse into a non-sentient weapon/source of labor in a setting where that person's soul/selfhood is objectively out of the picture upon dying is evil, especially when you hold it up against spells that let you force someone to do anything short of directly physically harming themselves against their will? At best it belies, I think, some really sloppy thinking from the designers about good/evil. If you're going to make it such an important concept it should have more thought than that. Necromancy has kind of been my bugaboo lately and the more I play 5th edition the more it annoys me because of the absolutely reprehensible poo poo I can technically pull with various Enchantment spells while never straying from Chaotic Good, but god forbid I make one zombie out of something that's already dead to carry my poo poo for me.
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Entropy is literally a synonym for chaos, not evil. "Inherently malicious" is also a weird thing to say about a dude that will just stand around twiddling his fingers until I tell him to do something and which also applies to, say, wild cats. (Really I'd argue that mindless undead intrinsically lack the capacity for malice, being, you know, mindless. But hey.) Reene fucked around with this message at 18:36 on Mar 11, 2017 |
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Alien Rope Burn posted:I think if you're looking for ethical nuance, baseline D&D just isn't where you're doing to find it. I mean yeah all arguments inevitably circle back around to D&D Is Bad It's just another highlight of how bad the drat alignment system is for me.
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Mar 11, 2017 18:43
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Brother Entropy posted:it hit me the other day when i was reading up on the new 5e book just being a bunch of old adventures refitted for 5e the similarities between the way d&d sells itself and internet fandoms sell themselves, it's so much about evoking community history and moods and cute little in-jokes or references and so little about the property itself this is not a good way to build a game  I mean poo poo if the thrust of the thing was "wizards are evil a lot and do a lot of evil poo poo that involves subjugating others in various ways and this is one particularly gross manifestation of that" and applied that to everything evenly including the crazy mind control crap that would at least be consistent in both theme and tone. It's just that they pick it out and say "yep, this one's evil" while gutting it of any context that would make it so.
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Brother Entropy posted:lol if you wouldn't sign up to donate your skeleton upon your death to the friendly neighborhood necromancer on a related note I am accepting skeleton donations
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oh man remember Poison Except Lawful Good So Paladins Can Use it I wish I didn't
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When I was designing my necrosocialist hellscheme I decided term limits were a good answer to a lot of these problems. You receive basic income and social services in return for a term of up to ten years of posthumous service as an explicitly mindless undead worker, after which your body is politely interred and/or returned to the family. Add in laws to restrict the use of undead to unskilled/menial labor and you've nipped the stagnation issue in the bud and avoided most of the associated problems with a potentially infinitely expanding labor force of zombies. How you deal with necromancy's applications to the creation of sentient undead is another ball of wax. ETA: Now, in the necroanarchocapitalist hellscheme, instead you buy out the debts of debtors in return for the use of their body upon their natural death. Reene fucked around with this message at 20:30 on Mar 12, 2017 |
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I don't like where this thread went so I'm quoting this for the new page
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That is honestly way better than anything I envisioned
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Nuns with Guns posted:I'm disappointed with a lot of the decisions made during its development and with the final rules, too, but 5e isn't comparable to gamergate at all. both lead to marginalized people losing their livelihoods and fearing for their safety at the hands of abusers leveraging large groups of people into harassing them enmasse and they both stem from a misplaced sense of territorial elitism so I think they're pretty comparable
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Haystack posted:The rear end in a top hat in question pisses me off too, but he differs in kind from gamergate. Gamergate is big, loud and transparently, pathetically, political. Zak is largely just an abusive, self-aggrandizing snake of a person. Neither is good, but I can understand it when people don't cotton onto the latter, especially when they're only peripherally involved in the hobby. Both Zak and Tarnowski have framed their poo poo as political and you cannot call them peripherally involved in the hobby when they have their names on the most iconic product in the entire hobby and have made a living doing poo poo related to the hobby. Just because one got bigger and hurt more people than the other does not mean they do not have a lot in common and nitpicking this point is deliberately missing the forest for the trees.
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I misread what you meant my bad and nobody expects people to just absorb that they're poo poo through osmosis but that's why people talk about it and bring it up when 5E gets brought up.
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drrockso20 posted:So anyone here own a copy of Mythic Russia(specifically the one that uses Hero Quest), cause I was contemplating maybe buying a copy next month since it's not all that expensive on Lulu even in Hardcover format Weirdly, yes. It's a very pretty book. I haven't dug into the mechanics very much or actually run a game with it so I can't say much about how it actually plays but in terms of physically owning the book it was a very nice gift.
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Didn't we JUST have a conversation about using zombie labor to effectively automate agriculture-related labor I swear we did
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Fuego Fish posted:Early editions of D&D were basically just like early videogames. You had lives (Bigby, Digby, Rigby) and frequently died to lava or spikes or whatever in a completely arbitrary fashion because the designer had no idea what they were doing in those frontier times. It was, and I say this without a trace of sarcasm but more than a little appreciation of the irony, a better time and a better, more fun game than 3.5. It was incredibly stupid, but that was part of the fun of it if you went into it with a group that maintained the kind of flippant mindset toward it that makes it fun.
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Fuego Fish posted:Having played OD&D myself, I honestly liked it better than 3.x, even though on several occasions a member of our party just instantly up and died, like from-100-to-0% in a single action. I don't mind so much as long as I go into them knowing they're disposable. And it gives me the chance to explore some bizarre gimmicks without committing to it for a dozen or more sessions like I would for a more permanent, serious game. That said, I will forever love the 1st edition wizard I made who was a child goblin witch that "just wanted to make some new friends" i.e. cast Charm Person a lot until she had a small army of followers that included a wandering insane cleric and an orc fighter that liked to muss her hair and call her squirt before punching people to death for her.
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today I left a local facebook group for trading/selling magic the gathering cards after posting a giant box of random cards I wanted to sell and getting a bunch of creepy replies in return I know we don't usually talk about magic itt but I'm feelin kinda salty and upset about it
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The box I have is literally just a grab box of several hundred cards from many different sets (KTK, RtR, RtI, Kaladesh, some Mirage for some fuckin reason) that I have zero interest in sorting. I have some actual good cards set aside that I can PM people tho
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The RL venue I usually use (Guardian Games in Portland) has actually gotten better lately in part because it seems like there was an influx of rad (and extremely good) female players and in part because the worst offenders in terms of creepiness are now gone. I don't know if they left of their own volition or if someone finally talked to them or what, but gone is gone I guess. Previously I had quit playing at GG because there were a couple of guys out of the dozen that did drafts that were unforgivably gross and seemed to have no sense of personal space or boundaries. One of them would pat me on the head if I won a round (?!??) and would just generally find ways to touch me without asking, up to and including sneaking up behind me and hugging me. The last straw was a dude following me out of the store and following me partway to my train home, unbidden, while talking loudly about his favorite BDSM-themed fantasy series. Recently I got into a brief Twitter Thing with some dudes insisting that harassment of women is not a problem in Magic.  Anyway thanks for not being gross assholes y'all.
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Yawgmoth posted:Eventually they'll do Return to Lorwyn and you'll get your wish. Lorwyn was the best gosh damned set. And the most fun to draft ever.
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exalted is a really bad game to be fair and I legitimately have no idea how anyone sits down and plays it past character creation as vast swaths of the system are labyrinthine or literally incomprehensible
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I vote Elfgames barring that, Grognards In Denial
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I feel like they do, it's just that that game is first edition Dungeons and Dragons.
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I should really no longer be amazed at how consistently content producers fail to understand the appeal of the poo poo they create.
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Dark Sun seems fine if fantasy apoc is your poo poo (it is my poo poo) like all good ideas though (Mage, Shadowrun) it's a decent to good setting married to mechanics that are absolute dogshit
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My Lovely Horse posted:On a sidenote: do anyone else's groups get much raunchier as the players get older and married, or just mine? My groups get progressively more crass and bizarre but the crassness is more generally respectful of other people. It's weird but not bad.
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starkebn posted:yay, another post-apocalyptic miniatures skirmish game starkebn posted:Yay, another post apocalyptic miniatures skirmish game! lmao
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It's just Discord with a brighter interface and slightly different features. I don't even know which one came first.
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May 1, 2017 20:33
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bullshit a burrito is not a sandwich I will die on this goddamn hill
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P.d0t posted:fwiw I'm pretty sure that "guy" is an artist's rendition of 4e designer Rob Heinsoo Huh, I never knew that.  wait  wait 
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