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Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

What is the Matrix 🌐? We just don't know 😎.


Buglord
I bet the movies will be bad this year

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Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

What is the Matrix 🌐? We just don't know 😎.


Buglord

Random Stranger posted:

That sounds like people just looking for something to get upset about. "A superhero movie starring a woman gets less money! :argh:" ignores that they're from different studios, that films are budgeted individually, and that they have to decide on a budget based on expected performance. Could there be some Hollywood sexism mixed in?

Oh gee, I wonder why they might be think that Wonder Woman is going to preform worse than BvS or Suicide Squad. They sure as hell aren't adjusting for BvS and SS's failure.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

What is the Matrix 🌐? We just don't know 😎.


Buglord

Random Stranger posted:

I don't know if that's accurate. I did a quick google search for Wonder Woman's budget and that's what turned up, but the financials for the production won't really come out until next year, most likely.


Honestly, if I was a studio trying to launch a superhero franchise that would face off against a juggernaut (not the Juggernaut), that's the budget I'd go for with the second tier films. In WB's case this would be anything other than Batman, Superman, and Justice League.

I don't actually disagree FWIW. I just think that

Random Stranger posted:

that they have to decide on a budget based on expected performance.

is a factor that could very easily be influenced by hollywood sexism. Look at Star Wars TFA's overexposure of Kylo Ren and underexposure of Rey for example.

Either way, studios are still spending way too much on movies and that trend doesn't look to be slowing down any time soon.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

What is the Matrix 🌐? We just don't know 😎.


Buglord

Blade_of_tyshalle posted:

Is that sexism, or is it just more promoting the Edgelord of the Sith because kewl dudes sell? I recall a lot of Darth Maul promotion, and he's way less prominent in his film than Kylo in his.

I didn't really see the ad campaign for Force Awakens, so I can't really say how it played out, however. Is there an analysis somewhere about it?

It was more prominent with the toys but Kylo toys were significantly overproduced and sold worse than Rey/Finn/Poe while Rey, the only woman, was the best selling character even though her toys were significantly underproduced in comparison to the other characters.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

What is the Matrix 🌐? We just don't know 😎.


Buglord

Nuebot posted:

I really hope Ghost in the Shell does well. The trailer seems to have upset a lot of fans by using some generic movie lines like "Everything you knew was a lie" or whatever, but they've gotten the visuals well enough that I'm excited for it.

It looks bad

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

What is the Matrix 🌐? We just don't know 😎.


Buglord

Maxwell Lord posted:

Yeah, but what the Hell is it even going to be about? If any science fiction movie DIDN'T leave hooks for a sequel it's that one.

Ryan Gosling has to win the big blade running marathon to save the rec centre

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

What is the Matrix 🌐? We just don't know 😎.


Buglord
I bet Weyland-Yutani gets name dropped

Prepare for the AvPvBRCU

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

What is the Matrix 🌐? We just don't know 😎.


Buglord
I thought the first film was about man's inhumanity to our own creations and whether Dick Deckard is one of those creations or not doesn't really change the themes or symbolism.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

What is the Matrix 🌐? We just don't know 😎.


Buglord

SciFiDownBeat posted:

Actually it looks like unironically fun and good and will have a lukewarm box office reception at worst. So there :colbert:

It looks like the most "forgetable early 2000s kids movie" movie ever. There's no way it'll break even.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

What is the Matrix 🌐? We just don't know 😎.


Buglord
Didn't help that it was a mediocre movie with a boring villain

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

What is the Matrix 🌐? We just don't know 😎.


Buglord

The MSJ posted:

Last year, people in CD were making fun of people who thought that BvS did bad financially also saying that "people who say this obviously have no idea how Hollywood finances work". Maybe it's different now that's it Hollyweed?

Hollyweed has the hardest working, most stoned accountants in the world

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

What is the Matrix 🌐? We just don't know 😎.


Buglord

Renoistic posted:

Funny thing is, for all the cheesecake in the Manga, the Major never had to get naked to use stealth camouflage. In fact, she's never naked during any mission. That was all made up for the movie.

TBF the manga did have a hardcore sex scene plopped in the middle for no reason

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

What is the Matrix 🌐? We just don't know 😎.


Buglord

Renoistic posted:

Hey what the major does in her free time is her business. Tbh I had completely forgotten about it since I have the old US version where it was cut/censored (scenes with brains being exploded were left as they were of course). And the scene is softcore at most.

Nope, you're misremembering
:nws: https://imgur.com/a/jXVle :nws:
It gets more explicit too.

Unsurprisingly, the author/artist now exclusively does porn comics.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

What is the Matrix 🌐? We just don't know 😎.


Buglord

CelticPredator posted:

Although, Beyond Skyline has nothing to do with the BS, outside of them doing the effects, and it stars Mad Dog, Rama, and Crossbones/Punisher Lite so, it could be good.

Attaching it to the dogshit first film doesn't give me any hope though

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

What is the Matrix 🌐? We just don't know 😎.


Buglord

Rough Lobster posted:

The Liefeldverse

Bloodstrike
Bloodwulf
Deathblood
Bloodstrike 2: This Blood's For You!
Youngbloods
Bloodwulf: Blood is Thicker Than Water
The Bloodvengers: Blood In, Blood Out!!
Bloodstrikeł: Blood Strike

I'm loving hyped

A Youngbloods film could theoretically lead to a film version of Brandon Graham's Prophet relaunch, in some universe.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

What is the Matrix 🌐? We just don't know 😎.


Buglord

Guy Mann posted:

It's a better idea that trying to claim ownership of the concept of Let's Plays and that the creator of Minecraft should be paying dividends since it's why his game got so popular, at least.

Not like that was a joke or something

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

What is the Matrix 🌐? We just don't know 😎.


Buglord

SciFiDownBeat posted:

heh heh yeah, this movie is gonna loving SUCK hahaha

*secretly I think it will be good and at worst a cult classic for Gen Z*

I really doubt it's gonna make much of a splash at all

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

What is the Matrix 🌐? We just don't know 😎.


Buglord

Enos Cabell posted:

If they do even a halfway decent job at the tie-in merchandising, then this movie will be freaking huge.

$125 million is a lot to make back for a movie with 18% on rotten tomatoes

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

What is the Matrix 🌐? We just don't know 😎.


Buglord
I had nightmares about a black goo in a lake trying to eat me as a very young child and a few years ago I found out that The Raft segment from Creepshow 2 matched those dreams almost exactly.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

What is the Matrix 🌐? We just don't know 😎.


Buglord

Enos Cabell posted:

This is from a few pages back, but it triggered a crazy memory. Our sixth grade band teacher popped in the Creepshow 2 VHS and played it for the whole class during the last week of school. Full on Rated R with nudity and gore in a public elementary in a small Texas town back in like 1988. We moved that summer, so I don't know if the teacher ever got in trouble or not.

Sounds like a cool teacher

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

What is the Matrix 🌐? We just don't know 😎.


Buglord

Slugworth posted:

If the question is ever 'was this thing done because someone had a low opinion of the general public?' the answer is universally 'yes'. And, sadly, generally borne out by market research.

Advertising market research is corporate woo-woo with little relation to reality

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

What is the Matrix 🌐? We just don't know 😎.


Buglord

Timby posted:

Thirty years ago, when research consisted of sentiment-based focus groups and surveys, sure.

Data-driven advertising and PR research and analysis, with deep segmentation and cohorts? Complete opposite. You'd be terrified at how much information I can get about your online behaviors just from your email address.

Nah, it's still bullshit. That much info doesn't actually matter when advertising firms exclusively use it to make whatever they wanted to do originally look like the best option.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

What is the Matrix 🌐? We just don't know 😎.


Buglord
A cool thing to remember about advertising and market research is that it isn't based in reality because if the research/ad company tells their clients the wrong thing too many times then the client will go down the street to a company that's willing to tell them what they want to hear.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

What is the Matrix 🌐? We just don't know 😎.


Buglord

The Saddest Rhino posted:

did i hear it wrong but is the girl's name Lucy and the guy literally gets powers from the titular character of the Luc Besson movie

No, it is not a sequel to Lucy

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

What is the Matrix 🌐? We just don't know 😎.


Buglord
First of all, Lucy was an adult woman in the movie Lucy

Second, Lucy was NOT British

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

What is the Matrix 🌐? We just don't know 😎.


Buglord

dont even fink about it posted:

Max Brooks found when he did some research on the topic that most police forces and emergency crews have put significant thought into how they would handle a zombie outbreak as an intellectual exercise.

He also included a blind monk and otaku with a katana

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

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Buglord

Aggro posted:

But in this case, the book and movie are quite good? The story isn't a generic zombie apocalypse survivors' journey.

That doesn't change out dumb the term "hungries" is

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

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Buglord

MacheteZombie posted:

Isn't The Happening a comedy?

Not on purpose

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

What is the Matrix 🌐? We just don't know 😎.


Buglord

FishBulb posted:

Oh the Village is good now?

Sixth Sense, Unbreakable and Signs were good but they were followed by The Village, Lady in the Water, The Happening, The Last Airbender and After Earth.

M Night has one of the worst filmographies I've ever seen.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

What is the Matrix 🌐? We just don't know 😎.


Buglord
The Happening is hilarious because of how poor it is. It wouldn't have been funny if M Night was a good director. The Last Airbender and Lady in the Water are two of the worst films I've ever seen.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

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Buglord

DeimosRising posted:

Irony is a dead scene. You gotta be kidding me if you say the plant suicide movie with a wind chase scene is being serious, or that such a film could be "not funny" under any circumstances.

He doesn't become a better director just because one movie was pretty funny. The majority of his films are dogshit.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

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Buglord

K. Waste posted:

What evidence is there to support this?

Ed Wood's career

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

What is the Matrix 🌐? We just don't know 😎.


Buglord

Femur posted:

i have a bad memory overall, i can't remember most of my childhood like at all. And I can't remember or be sure of any dream I've ever had, but reading the description when yall were discussing this, I felt that I've had that happened, and thought" this is a thing separate from dreams? "

Like how scary is it over just falling, or dying? wouldn't the residues of this be paralysis? I can't say these situations led to the paralysis cause I don't remember. the dark is scary, eerie, I can believe people made stories about creatures of the dark.

But I don't know, paralysis seems like a normal feeling that dreams can cause like any other, how can you tell you are awake and not dreaming? and believe this is the sensation that needs explanation?

Sleep paralysis is a very specific thing that triggers a panic response because you can't move and your brain thinks there's something near or on you. It's very distinct from dreams.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

What is the Matrix 🌐? We just don't know 😎.


Buglord

Enola Gay-For-Pay posted:

How have you been pedantically arguing with everyone else for two pages and nobody has mentioned your red title yet?

Red titles are for cowards

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

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Buglord

Olympic Mathlete posted:

The concept of AoT is pretty sweet in terms of sheer 'holy gently caress!' but the anime suffers from being massively stereotypical with its characters and the whiny emo protagonist. That and insane amounts of filler in comparison to action. I watched it because it was hyped to gently caress by anime nerds so I gave it a chance. I watched the entire series of 25 episodes and I swear the recap clips on the front of the later episodes are 5+ minutes. There's maybe 25 minutes of action in the entire series.

So there's a chance for greatness but I doubt it'll happen, giants kicking the gently caress out of enormous walls and rampaging through a city eating people is pretty intense.

There's a reason why every piece of advertising and game focuses on the attack on the city that happens at the very start of the series

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

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Buglord

LORD OF BOOTY posted:

FMA 2003 is especially weird because it turns into its own bizarre thing way before the ending, and has themes and subtext that are pretty much the literal polar opposite of the manga and Brotherhood. But it's also a drastic exception rather than the rule, which is why Brotherhood exists.

I liked the 2003 anime more than the manga but I haven't read or watched either in almost a decade.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

What is the Matrix 🌐? We just don't know 😎.


Buglord

LORD OF BOOTY posted:

It's definitely interesting but... it's 50 episodes long and 50 episodes of that kind of bleakness is an absolute loving slog to get through. The ending is also kind of a wet fart that comes completely out of left field and doesn't really make a ton of sense.

I would say check out some of Sho Aikawa's other stuff for the same themes as 2003, just done better, but... they're kind of not done better. Dude's kind of a poo poo writer, honestly. That said, however, Genocyber, Angel Cop, and Violence Jack all have a pretty similar worldview to FMA 2003, and all three are a loving hoot (though be warned that Genocyber and Violence Jack have some seriously :nms: gore in them- they're basically anime Fulci, whereas FMA 2003 is kinda like anime Von Trier).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ipr-wS5iBv0

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

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Sinners Sandwich posted:

Black Adam would basically be Scorpion King but with Superman. It is a perfect story for the Live Action DC Murderverse , espicially if the Shazam movie gets canceled proving there are no true superheroes in todays bleak world

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnVPUK-8P0M&hd=1

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

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Buglord

greatn posted:

Let me get this straight though. No dog was actually harmed. There was a humane society rep on set and observing who apparently voiced no objections. People are mad because a dog looks scared? When dogs have emotions that are completely different than humans and don't show them in the same way as even other dogs.

Did you actually read the article or watch the footage? It was forced into the water and went under almost as soon asnit went in. Dogs don't submerge on purpose. It's very clearly in distress and being forced.

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Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

What is the Matrix 🌐? We just don't know 😎.


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Tars Tarkas posted:

Terminators are back again for the whateverth time this is.


So, yay Cameron being back even though he'll be busy doing Avatar stuff and is mostly there to make sure Tim Miller doesn't go all Genisys on us.

http://deadline.com/2017/01/terminator-james-cameron-deadpool-tim-miller-david-ellison-skydance-1201890848/

Didn't Cameron like Genisys?

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