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We'll have to wait for the schedule but Okada can take losses to Omega/MiSu/Elgin to set up his missing the finals, possibly YTR if they really want to hammer home his exhaustion gimmick. I'm gonna say Big Mike makes it out of B after beating Okada/Omega, it lets you push him back up to his previous IC levels and he can safely take a loss in the finals. Okada won't make the finals, Omega doesn't need another high-profile setback, and MiSu doesn't need it. A still looks like Naito's block to lose, with Tana/Goto/Ibushi as potential losses. I think he takes L's to Goto/Ibushi, beats Tana and wins the block on that tie-breaker, followed by beating Elgin to setup the road to Wrassle Kingdome which could look like this: Okada/Naito main for the strap Omega/Ibushi Tana/Big Mike? I don't know if Tana's gonna hold the IC for a while once the G1 is over, and he doesn't need to take a third straight Dome loss. Cody/intermission and concession lines
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# ¿ Jun 26, 2017 18:23 |
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# ¿ May 14, 2024 06:59 |
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Tonfa posted:Oh yeah I guess and it was never brought up again, never mind then. And Okada beat Nakamura in the finals a couple years ago, which technically counts. There's also a difference between beating the boss straight up and YTR's dinger punch/rollup combo. It's easy to handwave away Okada losing to the latter.
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# ¿ Jun 27, 2017 04:26 |
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dromal phrenia posted:I know that Daryl isn't Takahashi's first friend/prop but does he usually take it this far? what you don't go to theme parks with loved ones
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# ¿ Jul 6, 2017 04:30 |
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exploded mummy posted:Chris Benoit killed his family. poo poo i didn't know that benoit killed liger's family too that's rough
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# ¿ Jul 14, 2017 05:16 |
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El Gallinero Gros posted:WK could be something like this The top two make sense, Okada/Naito is practically etched in stone and NJPW needs to run Omega/Ibushi before Kota gets distracted and spend nine months doing a one-man wrestling version of Sesame Street or something like that. I agree with Cody/Tana but there's some hoops that need to be jumped through. Tana needs to lose the IC title soon after the G1 and get his armed fixed, and Cody probably needs to lose the ROH title as well since Tana really doesn't need to take a third straight high profile Dome loss. While it might be tempting to have Hiroshi Tanahashi as ROH champ even for a second, ROH doesn't need a second straight Dome show with it's main belt changing hands. Get Tana healthy and the belts off everyone and you've got a match. Speaking of the IC title, I've got no clue where to go there. I'm kinda thinking Goto/BIG MIKE, since both are around that level and neither seems like they have anything else going on and both deserve better than a lower-card multi-man if healthy. I don't know where we're going with the juniors either but we've got time to set it up. So I'm thinking: Okada/Naito for the IWGP title Goto/Elgin for the IC title Omega/Ibushi for the US title War Machine/GOD/KES for the tag titles, is Archer healthy yet or is he done? MiSu/Ishii for the NEVER title KUSHIDA/ for the Jr. title for lack of a better idea and I don't want a Taguchi singles match. Maybe Ospreay or Ricochet could go here as well. Cody/Tanahashi singles Bucks/someone(s) for the Jr. tag Some NEVER six-man bullshit Maybe some kind of match for guys like Juice and ZSJ and SANADA who don't have a natural singles tie-in right now but deserve better than the NEVER six-man or the old man battle royale. Preshow old man battle royale.
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# ¿ Jul 18, 2017 20:34 |
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Okada's held the belt for over a year now and it'll be the better part of two years by the time he makes it to the Dome, and unless they completely hotshot the Okada/Omega feud just to get in a Kenny reign and reset Okada's reign (which would be stupid as hell), it'll be due time for Okada to chase the belt for a bit and let Naito have a long top run and have some fresh matches. Okada should prob win next year's G1, it'll have been three years since he's been in the finals (I assume that as champ he won't win this year or make the finals), he can then either beat Naito or Kenny in the 2019 Wrassle Kingdome.
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# ¿ Jul 19, 2017 05:08 |
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Skinty McEdger posted:I mean how hard could it be to talk someone into working a match in a lifesize Daryl suit for the final? Wouldn't be the first time Taguchi's dressed up at Wrassle Kingdome.
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# ¿ Jul 19, 2017 20:18 |
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8-bit Miniboss posted:I apologize for my words and deeds. rip luke perry
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# ¿ Jul 22, 2017 20:52 |
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yes let's book dragonson vs. shibata in a literal last man standing match also lets do this out in open seas so no one can be held legally responsible for letting these two fight to the death we can have it on the same card as the mark/jay briscoe vs. nick/nate diaz scaffold match what could possibly go wrong
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# ¿ Aug 7, 2017 18:46 |
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Jenkem Delivery posted:Briscoes vs. Diaz Bros ladder match for a briefcase full of weed no it's gotta be scaffold because they're inherently stupid/dangerous, but to refuse to do one or climb back down means you're a bitch and that's an official DQ under United Stockton Rules, plus it gives Mark something really high to jump off of
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# ¿ Aug 7, 2017 18:53 |
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Thrifting Day! posted:
If there's two things Japanese wrestling loving loves, it's belts and factions.
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# ¿ Aug 9, 2017 05:58 |
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I still think they dropped the ball by not having a Hiromu/Fale singles here, even if it was five minutes of Hiromu flinging himself at Fale and getting tossed like a ragdoll before eating a pin. He needed to try and get some justice for his friend against that fiend Fale.
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# ¿ Aug 13, 2017 20:15 |
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I figure we'll get Okada/EVIL for sure, wouldn't surprise me if we also get Okada/SANADA with the idea that Naito is getting LIJ to soften up Okada, which he didn't have the last time they met at Wrassle Kingdome for the belt. Naito lost to Ishii and Fale so you've got those two matches for the case. Kenny lost to Juice/BIG MIKE so there's two natural defenses for the US title. He could also defend against Jay Lethal at ROH as well. Tana needs to drop the IC belt to ZSJ and then get his arm repaired. He should have one more match in 2017. MiSu lost to BIG MIKE/Kenny/EVIL/YTR and drew with Okada. Assuming Okada and Kenny are busy, you could have the other three challenge for the NEVER. Let YTR have the first crack at Misu ('s nuts) while EVIL and BIG MIKE get their respective shots potentially. A NEVER reign would be a good reward for EVIL's strong G1 showing imo.
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# ¿ Aug 14, 2017 01:33 |
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Baron Corbyn posted:All the positive feelings I got from NJPW this weekend, Shibata... Daryl... Iizuka... all erased by a snip of Tanahashi's barber's scissors. when we were saying that tana needed to go under the knife this isn't what we meant
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# ¿ Aug 14, 2017 22:00 |
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Jerusalem posted:Dave also goes into some fun statistics stuff which I'm positive was an absolute joy for his robot brain to get to play around with It's also kinda hard to see how you can really top this year when even your bottom half guys are cranking out *** matches night after night. The only real dead weight is Yano/Fale and they each have their roles; YTR is the comedy act/unofficial night off and Fale allows someone to work a big man match. I guess if we were going for ***MaXiMuM sTaRz*** for 2018 we'd definitely replace Nagata/YTR/Fale, and maybe Kojima/Juice/Tama since they're the lowest after that, but who do you replace them with? KUSHIDA and would be the obvious choices if we're going workrate, even though as juniors they'd eat a lot of falls. After that who's left? Do you hope that Riddle can make it through a G1 without smoking himself into being deported? Hope WWE releases a KENTA/Cesaro workrate monster? Put in Shibata and Dragonson and pray neither of them die? At some point this has to peak. Either that or Big Dave inflates his ratings and makes them as useless as Zimbabwe currency.
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# ¿ Aug 17, 2017 23:07 |
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You mean to tell me Big Dave's too busy to spend time with his sons?
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# ¿ Aug 18, 2017 03:39 |
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Riddle in NJPW/G1 is a no-brainer. The problem is that Riddle is also a no-brainer.
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# ¿ Sep 3, 2017 16:36 |
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CVagts posted:If Matt Riddle is a no-brainer, I feel like Jeff Cobb is a negative-brainer. Don't all impressively strong foreign hosses seem to get over? Then forget Riddle, bring over Cobb/Keith Lee and let them hoss-off against War Machine.
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# ¿ Sep 3, 2017 18:42 |
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Last year's teams I'd expect to be back: GOD EVIL/SANADA War Machine Okada/YOSHI-HASHI Ten-Cozy Goto/Ishii Last year's teams that might be back: Tana/Juice Okada/Owens Page/Yujiro Last year's teams that won't be back, at least in current form: GBH Nagata/Shibata Rush/Naito Billy Gunn/Yoshitatsu Brian Breaker/Leland Race Henare/Nakanishi Fale/Bone Soldier That gives you Makabe/Nagata/Naito/Fale/Nakanishi? to come up with new teams, though I could see two of the three grumpy old men teaming. Cobb/Riddle can take the Race Breakers spot, KES take a spot, and the young lions can do whatever. So if I had to guess: 1: GOD 2: War Machine 3: KES 4: EVIL/SANADA 5: Ten-Cozy 6: Okada/YOSHI-HASHI 7: Goto/Ishii 8: Okada/Owens 9: Fale/Page 10: Cobb/Riddle 11: Nagata/Nakanishi 12: Juice/BIG MIKE 13: Naito/Partner 14: Makabe/Partner 15: Young Lion team 16: Probably Tana and someone because he won't get his loving surgery
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# ¿ Sep 4, 2017 08:02 |
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shiksa posted:the belly says baron corbin but the hair is off, weird. yes let's insult the polynesian man's stomach what could possibly go wrong there
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# ¿ Sep 7, 2017 06:38 |
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coconono posted:Grande Tonga El Hijo del Haku
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# ¿ Sep 7, 2017 18:56 |
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Big Van Tonga
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# ¿ Sep 7, 2017 19:01 |
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harperdc posted:plus I'm sure Rocky can better understand from Gedo what they want to get across and pull it off in English than Yoshi-Tatsu could well we all can understand it when gedo calls someone a motherfucker
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# ¿ Sep 8, 2017 01:37 |
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shiksa posted:watching the 9/10 show today. holy poo poo leo tonga is like, significantly taller than fale i wasn't expecting that. big kid. Fale's only about 6'3" or something like that. He really benefits from guys like Gallows being gone and not being around someone like Archer who's got six inches on him.
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# ¿ Sep 11, 2017 21:58 |
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Let's go Zachy 2 Arms
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# ¿ Sep 15, 2017 01:06 |
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oatgan posted:tanahashi wrote a book to convince fans he hated shibata to add drama to one match and thats why he's the ace of the universe yeah well shibata almost died to set up his eventual rematch with okada so who's the real ace now
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# ¿ Sep 15, 2017 01:10 |
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Spuckuk posted:Suzuki-Gun are extremely socialist, they try to get as many of their comrades as possible to share the workrate. And they're big fans of welfare considering Taichi has a job.
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# ¿ Sep 15, 2017 18:50 |
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sigmachiev posted:So what does Tanahashi do at the Dome? Seems like Ibushi should win next month. I suppose Kenny could interfere and cost him the match, but was kind of hoping they'd stick to more untraditional storytelling to build their match. I had been thinking Tana/Cody after the G1 but the belts were an issue; Tana doesn't need to be holding the IC belt (or wrestling at all but Tana gonna Tana) and he doesn't need a third-straight high profile Dome loss. ROH also doesn't need it's world belt trading hands at Wrassle Kingdome again, even if ROH Champ Hiroshi Tanahashi would be cool just for a lineage moment. I guess you could have Cody drop the ROH belt, to who I don't know or care, and have Tana defend the IC strap against Cody, but I think you could build to that match and get an IC defense from somewhere else on the card.
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# ¿ Sep 16, 2017 17:03 |
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You could have Ibushi beat Tana, Kenny loses the US belt to someone and run that as your IC match, though it would feel like belt hot-swapping for Kenny and I'm sure they'd rather give him a long US title run to establish it before it inevitably falls to NEVER levels. There is the possibility that Kenny/Ibushi isn't in the cards for Wrassle Kingdome but considering how much of a commitment-phobe Ibushi is you've got to strike whenever the iron is hot there.
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# ¿ Sep 16, 2017 17:27 |
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MassRafTer posted:Tananashi is at a point in his career where he should be in the second biggest match on the Dome show and should be losing. He's a giant star who isn't the guy anymore, that's kind of his role until you decide to give him that one last big run. Except I think that putting Kenny in that position gives greater benefits than Tanahashi at this point. Okada/Naito on top is the no-brainer, Kenny going over in the semi-main, and Tana either putting Kenny over in that semi or going before the last two matches. Tana's passed over the ace title to Okada but he's not in the full Cena "I'm part-time and need to start putting everyone over unless they're trash" role. You can put Tana over someone like Cody and the latter will be fine, especially if they do the eventual Bullet Club split/civil war. They do need to get the IC belt off of Tana before too long, if only for his own good.
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# ¿ Sep 16, 2017 22:06 |
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Jerusalem posted:Sydal: All right Matt, you can do this. Just gotta go a week without actuall- It's why I'd be very hesitant about bringing Riddle over, simply because he seems like the kind of guy who's absolutely sure he can beat the system and smuggle his herb over and gets caught in a matter of seconds. Like at most maybe the Dome and New Year's Dash and it's in and out in 72 hours. But a tour, and especially a long brutal one like the G1? Asking him to go a month and work that schedule without his painkiller of choice? That's a gamble I wouldn't be willing to take.
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# ¿ Sep 19, 2017 18:06 |
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here comes the spunk posted:It's funny to see the huge turn around on Taguichi over the past couple years. No one used to like him at all around here. i still don't like him
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# ¿ Sep 24, 2017 00:18 |
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Hey let's take some wild guesses at the WK12 card again! IWGP Heavy: Okada (c)vs. Naito IWGP IC: Ibushi (c) vs. Tanahashi IWGP US: Omega (c) vs. BIG MIKE IWGP Jr. Heavy: Ospreay (c) vs. KUSHIDA vs. Hiromu vs. Scurll IWGP Heavy Tag: KES (c) vs. War Machine IWGP Jr. Heavy Tag: Roppongi 3K (c) vs. Young Bucks NEVER Open: Suzuki (c) vs. Goto NEVER Trios: LIJ(c) vs. GoD/Leo Cody/Fale/Page/Yujiro/Owens vs. ZSJ/Desperado/Taichi/TAKA/Kanemaru Ishii/YTR/TACOS/Beretta vs. Makabe/Juice/Taguchi/Ricochet Rumble C. Everett Koop fucked around with this message at 05:21 on Oct 10, 2017 |
# ¿ Oct 10, 2017 05:16 |
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Jerusalem posted:This would be a pretty great card. Best thing is that most permutations of the top matches would probably lead to a pretty great card, NJPW has booked the year so well. Deciding to expand upon my thoughts: IWGP: Okada/Naito. Duh. IC: Tana needs to do three things within the next three/four months: drop the IC belt, not lose a third-straight high profile match at the Dome, and finally get his loving arm fixed. It looks like they're not doing anything with Okada/Naito, which means Tana vs. Ibushi for the IC belt is going to main event Power Struggle. This would also seemingly take Omega/Ibushi out of the picture, since there's no need for title vs. title right now and you can't have Ibushi lose an IC challenge and turn around and challenge for the US. To me, the best way to accomplish all three of Tana's goals is to have Ibushi win the IC title at Power Struggle, Tana win the rematch at the Dome, and then Ibushi win the belt/feud in late January or early February, which should allow Tana to finally get his arm fixed and be back in time for the G1. But this is Tana and he's a hard-headed dumbass so who knows. US: If Ibushi's out of the picture then Kenny needs a challenger who's credible enough to have a high-profile singles match at the Dome and threaten Kenny but also take the L. Big Mike fits that profile perfectly, and he can always be built back up to be the one to take the US title from Omega sometime next summer once Omega's established the US belt and is ready to re-enter the main event picture. Jr: We should get one multi-way match and it makes sense here. KUSHIDA needs his rematch with Ospreay but Hiromu needs something to do as well. Going KUSHIDA/Hiromu and shuffling Ospreay into a CHAOS multiman seems like a waste, and neither KUSHIDA/Hiromu have a natural landing point if Ospready gets the other one on one. Scurll's kinda the odd fit here; they could easily go with a three-way and bump Marty to a Bullet Club multi-man team. But I like the contrast of two Japanese guys and two Brits in the match, and if Hiromu fucks around with Ospreay/Scurll at Power Struggle it sets everything up. Heavy Tag: I don't think they've done a straight 1v1 KES/War Machine since KES returned, just the three-way fuckery with GoD. Have War Machine win the Tag League sets this up and we can use GoD later in the card. The one X-Factor might be Matt Riddle/Jeff Cobb if they're coming in, but I don't think a brand new team is gonna win the tag league and challenge at the Dome. But who knows. Jr. Tag: You could run a R3K/Funky Future rematch but I don't think there's a need, plus the Bucks need something to do at the Dome and if we're doing a multi-way with the singles we don't need one with the tag belts too. NEVER: After doing some thinking, I've decided to change this to Misu vs. Ishii. Little big boy deserves a singles match after the year he's put in, he can credibly take the strap off of Misu, and they can feud for a little bit. More importantly, I'm thinking that Goto will be Naito's first feud after winning the IWGP title since they can have Goto defend Okada/CHAOS' honor, with Naito going over, and save the Okada/Naito rematches for later down the line. If that's the plan Goto doesn't need to be farting around with the NEVER title, especially taking an L at the Dome. NEVER Trios: This is kinda a whatever and can always become a gauntlet like before, but LIJ vs. Meng's kids seems like a good way to spend ten minutes. Leo's not ready for this stage at all but he can be hidden here. Bullet Club vs. Suzuki-Gun: It's a waste of Cody and ZSJ to put them in a ten-man at the Dome, but I can't find anywhere to slot them in and I don't see the need for a non-title singles. Maybe Marty bumps Page/Owens if they only do a 3-way for the Jr. strap but this gets everyone on the card. CHAOS vs. Taguichi Japan: Give Goto the pin here to keep him strong for putting Naito over. Kinda a waste of Ricochet but if he's on his way out then it's kinda a whatever. Rumble: It's a rumble. Grumpy old men and young boys and maybe a guest or two. The only X Factors is whatever this Switchblade is, if it's Sami Callihan or something else, and if they want to do something with Cobb/Riddle or have Cody defend the ROH title against someone for some reason. Maybe Cody/ZSJ for the ROH title to give them both a singles, who knows. C. Everett Koop fucked around with this message at 21:09 on Oct 10, 2017 |
# ¿ Oct 10, 2017 21:04 |
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oatgan posted:ricochet wants two things: a steady gig with his friends, and for the rock to acknowledge him on twitter apparently i am ricochet now
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# ¿ Oct 11, 2017 05:54 |
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Super No Vacancy posted:many elements of the EVIL gimmick limit his potential and will need to evolve before he's ready for the upper echelon everything is already evil how much further can you go
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# ¿ Oct 12, 2017 18:33 |
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Devitt/Anderson/Tama/Fale, but yeah. And if you try to push management about royalties they suddenly don't understand English at all.
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# ¿ Oct 14, 2017 01:26 |
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The Cameo posted:Gedo come up with the idea of running an all-gaijin heel stable and told Devitt to come up with a name and hand signal, Devitt came up with something involving guns and Gedo tweaked it to Bullet Club. The group is technically Gedo's creation, just with heavy input from the wrestlers. Also Jeff Jarrett.
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# ¿ Oct 14, 2017 03:04 |
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Thauros posted:yeah I'd imagine based on the very similar Time Bomb segments from last year that Switchblade should be revealed. George Carroll has also promised a big announcement that's going to be revealed on the show which given his position could be NJPW USA related. Any chance they do a deal like the G1, run a couple of Wrassle Kingdome lead-up shows in the US?
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# ¿ Nov 1, 2017 02:45 |
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# ¿ May 14, 2024 06:59 |
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Well I can't say that we saw Jericho as a Wrassle Kingdome participant... So here's what we know for the Dome and what we think: IWGP: Okada (c) vs. Naito IC: Tanahashi (c) vs. White US: Omega (c) vs. Jericho Jr.: Scurll (c) vs. KUSHIDA vs. Ospready vs. Hiromu Jr. Tag: R3K (c) vs. Young Bucks ROH: Cody (c) vs. Ibushi Tag: KES (c) vs. War Machine NEVER: MiSu (c) vs. Ishii Trios: LIJ (c) vs. GoD/Leo Tonga Couple multi-man tags to try and get everyone on the card? Names who don't have a natural fit are Goto, ZSJ, BIG MIKE, Fale, YTR, Super69, etc...
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# ¿ Nov 5, 2017 21:25 |