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Jun 6, 2017 01:34
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RealFoxy posted:It's so weird how we thought that NJPW were stupid for making Okada a champion when he debuted after being some random TNA jobber dork into a legitimate best wrestler of the last 20 years No, just no. He's had an extremely good run but there were a lot of extremely good wrestlers going in 1997.
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Jun 7, 2017 12:55
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Venomous posted:aye but Okada's the best wrestler in the world right now, maybe second to AJ Styles at a push, so they have a lot more going for them rn than, say, Misawa did back then You could argue Misawa was on the decline in 97, but most would argue that Kobashi was BITW at that time and he had a decade of top tier work ahead of him, plus drawing some huge business. Then there's Michaels who was active at that time, Benoit who had a decade left before child murder, Angle yet to debut, etc. Okada having more of a claim than any of those guys is suspect, but he has a contemporary in Tanahashi who is nearly as good as he is now and has a long track record behind him.
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Jun 7, 2017 20:16
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RealFoxy posted:I said "A legitimate best of the last 20 years" as in, one of the best of the last 20 years. Not THE best of the last 20 years Even then hes' not even top 10. He's stacking up against Kobashi, Misawa, Kawada, Tanahashi, HBK, Angle, Mysterio, Benoit, Hijo Del Santo, Negro Casas, Danielson and some big match wrestlers like Cena and Atlantis who deserve consideration. I mean if we're putting Okada in this list we need to put AJ Styles above him as his recent track record is nearly as good and he has a much longer overall track record. By 2020 he'll definitely be in consideration.
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Jun 8, 2017 00:57
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Captain Magic posted:I thought the Morishima/Danielson match at Manhattan Mayhem II was The following Danielson matches are five stars: vs KENTA vs Morishima (Manhattan Mayhem) vs Morishima (Final Battle 2008) This is official I have ranked them.
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Jun 8, 2017 01:13
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coconono posted:Reminder that Misawa was still turning in A+ main events right up until his death. Okada is on that track but not there just yet. We will see how he fares as the injuries start to limit his mobility. Misawa was not having very many good matches after 2003. He was extremely limited by the end, the KENTA match he had in ROH was almost a miracle. Okada has had 5 excellent years. He's on track to be an all time great in ring wrestler. However if we looked at Samoa Joe in 2007 you'd think the same thing.
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Jun 8, 2017 02:21
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cams posted:come on now, joe had those triple threats with aj styles and christopher daniels, and he had Joe vs Punk, Joe vs Punk, Joe vs Punk, Joe vs Kobashi, Joe vs Danielson (maybe his second best title defense) Joe vs Low Ki, Joe vs Jay Briscoe, Joe vs KENTA vs Danielson, Joe vs Necro, Joe vs Morishima, Joe vs Angle, Joe vs Aries, Joe vs Homicide and on and on and on.
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Jun 8, 2017 02:39
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cams posted:i meant after 2007 It took me a minute to remember all the great Joe matches so someone saying "he was always bad" seemed more likely than a sarcastic "he was still good after he died on stairs vs Sting!"
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Jun 8, 2017 03:43
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Everyone should want Kenny to win because the Wrestler of the Year arguments will be heated.
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Jun 10, 2017 19:28
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TwoDogs1Cup posted:Can Cody just go away? He's pretty good. Main event was one of the best 60 minute matches I've ever seen.
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Jun 11, 2017 19:03
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Cosmic Brain:C. Everett Koop posted:I hope Cody wins the strap in LA and Kenny doesn't get it
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Jun 11, 2017 21:07
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EugeneJ posted:I'm just watching Omega-Okada now and I already have a "lol that's not 5 stars" moment - Okada whiffs on kicking Omega in the face about 6 minutes in and Omega sells it anyway Better remove like half of the five star matches.
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Jun 12, 2017 04:19
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ChuckDeNomolos posted:excuse me but i have a bone to pick with new japan wrestling, and the spot that ruined the business from the gauntlet match: zack sabre jr. not only holding back ishii, but pushing him back as well This is why I try to only watch CMLL where they do not insult my intelligence with unrealistic nonsense like that.
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Jun 12, 2017 04:28
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Baron Corbyn posted:loving hell I feel bad for people going to the G1 Special if the top two matches are Okada/Cody and Tanahashi/Mr. rear end The latter owns so much.
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Jun 12, 2017 04:31
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Baron Corbyn posted:it does, and I am very happy it is happening but if I'd bought a ticket to see the one NJPW show I could without flying to Japan from the USA, I'd kinda want at least one big match with NJPW top guys. Cody/Okada will be great.
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Jun 12, 2017 04:49
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Lid posted:After watching Okada-Omega II i still think the first one was better but that was magnificent. All the shout outs to the first match were great but i preferred Omega in the first match using EVERYONES finisher and the kitchen sink. Its purely aesthetics there vs this matches story of v triggers v dropkicks. It takes like 3 Rainmakers to put away every challenger these days.
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Jun 12, 2017 19:14
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SamuraiFoochs posted:Granted, I did. Heard about it before I watched it. That said, they telegraphed it to gently caress with the dropkick staggers in the last few minutes. Even watching it live I'd have known they were gonna do the draw by about three minutes left. If you didn't know they were going to do a draw until 57 minutes in a 60 minute match that is pretty impressive on their part. I went in assuming draw, then when the Bullet Club came out had my mind changed, then around 50 I assumed draw again. Not sure why knowing a draw is happening is any different than knowing a guy is going to win. In the end the story is still has a great arc and to me felt satisfying at the end. MassRafTer fucked around with this message at 20:51 on Jun 12, 2017 |
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Jun 12, 2017 20:48
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Watch Tanahashi vs Karl Anderson from The New Beginning 2013. It was my MOTY for 2013.
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Jun 13, 2017 00:45
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Price Check posted:Anyone asking why they're not doing more inspiring Okada & Tanahashi matches in Long Beach needs to remember that the shows are already sold out. Not just that but they are 3,000 seats. The shows are getting better than a B show card. Some of the matches we already know are fantastic.
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Jun 13, 2017 01:47
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The inverted bell curve of opinions on Kelly/Callis is pretty crazy to see.
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Jun 13, 2017 03:46
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RealFoxy posted:Mine too, and I think it holds up to tons of the NJPW main events. Probably one of my favorite 5 matches of the last 5 years. I've never seen a match where there was 0% chance of a title change that made me more sure I was going to see a title change even though I knew it was impossible.
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Jun 13, 2017 05:30
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Like the Terminator he never wins in the end.
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Jun 13, 2017 18:34
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Benne posted:Singles. I assume this match is happening because Tana is literally wrestling with one arm and they wanted to give him something safe and easy before the G1 starts. He'll probably just sit in a chinlock for like 5 minutes before hitting a couple Slingblades and High Fly Flows and getting out of there. The build for this started before he got injured. Tanahashi loves weird American style matches when he's in the US.
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Jun 14, 2017 06:00
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Benne posted:It does make me wonder how much longer they can rely on using Tana near the top of the card. I know why he's still there -- living legend, loyal company man, gracefully passed the torch, can still have great matches with anyone -- but the dude is beat to poo poo, and always seems to be working through one serious injury or another over the past few years. They should probably put their foot down and force him to ease up his schedule, but I don't know if that will happen. Wrestling.txt They do ease up on him a bit. There have been a few tours where he barely does anything in the tags because he's banged up.
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Jun 14, 2017 06:12
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Spikeguy posted:Just caught this, loved it. Has there been any negative reactions to it from the usual grouchy ex wrestlers/wrestling reviewers? Also, i feel so worried for these two - those bumps looked super hard. Do Japanese wrestlers get more time to recover or do they just have shorter careers? They get more time to recover as there are gaps between tours. handsome only face posted:they get more time to recover in that they're not wrestling 4-5 days a week every week, and when they are the multi-mans at smaller shows aren't as strenuous as singles During a tour they are working that much.
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Jun 14, 2017 19:02
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The_Rob posted:I don't think I could say this. Maybe at this moment they are but over all. You can't hold a candle to how consistently good AJ has been nearly his entire career in ring wise. Kushida has been great for years and years. Mistico and Dragon Lee both deserve to be in the discussion for the best in the world too.
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Jun 15, 2017 02:21
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SatoshiMiwa posted:I actually wonder if he'd rerate some of the Flair/Steamboat and Misawa/Kobashi higher these days He's said they wouldn't for obvious reasons. You can't rate things out of context, although he did go back to Misawa/Kobashi and try to see how it compares in its own context.
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Jun 15, 2017 05:26
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Lid posted:Has New Japan shown interest into Jeff Cobb or is he stuck because of Lucha Underground fuckery? I'm imagining him in the G1 or anything and it would be so great. Lucha politics make it very unlikely even if they weren't overflowing with foreign talent.
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Jun 15, 2017 17:18
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Jenkem Delivery posted:Ricochet worked for LU and NJPW simultaneously I don't think it'd be an issue
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Jun 15, 2017 19:56
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KUSHIDA is in a short list with Mistico, Dragon Lee II and Rush where I want to write up an argument they are the actual best in the world right now, but aren't in a position to show it with star ratings. Okada's year has been so good that I don't bother.
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Jun 17, 2017 04:06
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Lid posted:Which Mistico? There is only one legal Mistico. ChuckDeNomolos posted:dominion made me finally become super invested in kushida, that dude is so crisp and so good at being the fiery babyface that will get pissed enough to just slug a man in the mouth. kushida/takahashi was the match i come away from feeling blown away the most. I like Okada/Omega 2 a ton, and it's a big, insanely impressive match, but the Jr. Heavyweight match was my motn, especially with the Bushi ending for the cherry on top. I voted for him as Best Technical Wrestler the only time I ever bothered voting in the Observer Awards and felt very justified even though it was before he'd really had a chance to shine in big singles matches.
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Jun 17, 2017 04:36
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Caristico is also extremely good but Mistico is pretty obviously better so I can't make the argument for him as BITW. It's funny because I didn't really appreciate him during his peak. It was only after WWE and the fans unfairly crapped on him that I really appreciated how good he is.
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Jun 17, 2017 04:44
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Hoping Okada ends up in the goober block and drops a match to YTR setting up King of Pro Wrestling.
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Jun 20, 2017 16:37
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Spermgod posted:recent history shows they aren't going to give away a marquee match on a show that's a guaranteed sellout Tanahashi/Nakamura and Naito/Tanahashi are pretty marquee. Neither was quite as big at that moment as they'd be before or later, but still big name matches.
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Jun 21, 2017 21:24
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Spermgod posted:i don't remember but i don't think those shows sold out as far in advance as last years did Given the dome show attempt in 14 they had to be supremely confident of a sellout in 15. It's G1 we might get something kind of weird name wise, or we might get two big stars, there's just no trend lately.
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Jun 22, 2017 15:17
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YTR is gonna pin Okada and main event the September show give it to me.
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Jun 26, 2017 18:22
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The NJPW World broadcast isn't going to be JR and Barnett right? I've gotta use my VPN that night.
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Jun 28, 2017 05:00
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Baron Corbyn posted:you can buy a normal one here. I have no interest in JR and cannot stand Josh Barnett. I'd rather listen to it in Japanese.
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Demtor posted:I loving hate how NJPW world now puts up post match interview clips above the events. It totally spoils the outcome when you see the one wrestler celebrating with the belt while the next vid picture (right above the actual event!) shows the other being held up by two other guys. Spoilers!! WTF, Japan. gently caress you Japan for spoiling things that have already happened, kind of! I'm gonna steal your poo poo for that!
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