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Race Realists posted:interesting conversation going on on NeoGaf right now concerning the potential roster size. in a game where assets are clearly being reused, why not just slap in the u/mvc3 roster, add additional characters and call it a day? Boy are you gonna be disappointed when this game comes out (so are we all).
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Race Realists posted:i know realistically speaking they wont, what im saying is, why not Because the only evidence of re-used assets in the animations, which are maybe 20% of a characters total cost, if that.
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Jan 9, 2017 22:25
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Marvel Vs Capcom Infinite Thread: Worse Game in this series yet becausefadam posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZ2Hsig12h8
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Apr 25, 2017 18:04
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fadam posted:The idea that there's this huge market of people that are willing to put tons of money and time into a game but they won't because the mechanics are too hard or whatever is bullshit This might be true for fighting games so far, but I can guarantee you that there's a poo poo load of evidence out there for making games 'easier' (meaning more accessible) being the path to making buttloads of money. Look at genre defining games like WoW, CoD4 or LoL and then look at the titles in that genre previously.
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Apr 27, 2017 19:54
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fadam posted:I can't speak to CoD but while they might be simplified compared to their predecessors, LoL and WoW are still fairly complex games. League is a dumbed down DotA but it still has like a billion different heroes that can be built in a bunch of different ways and talent trees and items etc. I don't like it and I have literally zero desire to play it but its a good example of how a game doesn't have to be dumbed down to idiot baby level to be successful. How does "advertised as made easier for new/casual players to get into" suddenly become "dumbed down to idiot baby level"?
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Apr 27, 2017 20:07
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fadam posted:Because 99% of the time the two go hand in hand. I agree that the previous two capcom fighting games are bad and were advertised as easier to access to new players but niether of them are idiot baby levels of dumbed down, just the total wrong things simplified for the audience they want to capture. Chucat posted:I'm staring really hard at Starcraft and nothing's happening. Don't even know what this means, I can only assume you agree with what I said since there's no way Brood War is easier than SC2 or that it made more money than SC2.
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Apr 27, 2017 20:20
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CubsWoo posted:That assumes the DLC characters aren't basically done and aren't being intentionally held back to milk the userbase which is exactly the kind of thing I now expect from Capcom. It plainly doesn't cost time or effort to make new characters, so why Capcom insists on placing monetary value on them is ridiculous. There's no malice involved because they don't give two shits, there is however wilful ignorance about why games are made coming from people making this kind of statement.
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Jun 2, 2017 17:38
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This game will sell poo poo because capcom couldn't market a free blowjob machine and it will still sell about 1000 times as many copies as the DBZ game does.
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Jun 13, 2017 17:42
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An hour of versus mode gameplay on the Capcom Unity stream at 12pm PDT.
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Jun 14, 2017 18:41
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Jun 15, 2017 18:57
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Sorry, I momentarily forgot to put on my capcops illuminati vision shades.
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Jun 15, 2017 19:08
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Zand posted:you're right. capcom would never pay out fgc members for their support for marketing Holy poo poo a company engages with the community, how dare they. The graphics look a bit poo poo in the promo art and some cutscenes (seems pretty much entirely bad lighting rather than fundamental issues), we best get on the train calling the entire game a poo poo scam to steal our money before we even play it. At best Justin/Champ/Kbrad/etc got tickets and travel/accommodation, it's a free trip, not working. If you're working at a public event representing your company, you have to constantly be on the ball making sure you don't say the wrong thing, offend somebody or perhaps portray the product in a negative light because your livelyhood depends on your wage. It's most likely even worse for Combofiend as he's been friendly, or even worse unfriendly, with those attending for years. It's like having to work the bar at a party for all your friends, while they enjoy themselves you are stood there jobbing it. Unconstructively making GBS threads on something is never going to give you an improved end product or future product, it's just going to make people stop listening.
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Jun 15, 2017 20:44
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gently caress, they gave Max a preview copy of the demo before E3, which I haven't seen anybody else doing, and his reaction is 'not really impressed'. poo poo, he's on the payroll it must be reverse psychology!
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Jun 15, 2017 20:48
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Zand posted:when did I say it's bad for them to do? I was only saying it's weird to think that believing they do this is a conspiracy. There's no conspiracy because everybody with a brain understands what is happening, reacting like it's some big secret is what makes you seem like a conspiracy loon. Along with stuff like: bebaloorpabopalo posted:Max doesn't have to shill beyond "pretending to be hype to entertain his teenage audience," fighting game devs will give him whatever he wants because he's the biggest fighting game centric internet personality there is. Of course it doesn't apply to him because *made up reasons that definitely don't apply to people who say anything positive*. Like Justin totally needs Capcom to invite him to E3 or he will become irrelevant.
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Jun 15, 2017 21:07
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Oh poo poo I agreed with cams time to check out.
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Jun 15, 2017 21:38
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I've basically learned not to read any threads about a game I actually might enjoy because the constant negatives for page after page stops me actually enjoying the game. We'll all be disappointed if the game is poo poo, no need to put yourself through the pain of thinking it will be poo poo for the next 3 months on top of that. The crusade of 'destructive criticism' and 'negative propaganda' (lol) against capitalism/capcom won't make a difference to their bottom line, the game being actually poo poo or not on release will.
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Jun 15, 2017 22:36
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Medullah posted:Man Gamora looks like she's just skinny She-Hulk. Can you name one that isn't 'is green' cos I'm not seeing that at all.
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Jul 17, 2017 08:04
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And some Mind Stone stuff, can't really tell what the surge is but the storm is the same as leaked, it creates a sougenmu-like illusion. edit: Maybe it's a command grab for characters that don't have one like the power stone is the wall bounce? Fellblade fucked around with this message at 22:23 on Jul 20, 2017 |
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Jul 20, 2017 22:18
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It seems even more for sure that Monster Hunter is in now, they've revealed/confirmed the Black Panther stage is Wakanda/Val Habar and the crossover comic features 'Black Panther interacting with Monster Hunter monsters and characters' at SDCC.
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Jul 22, 2017 00:40
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Dormammu confirmed on the MVC Facebook page, him and Firebrand are in the build playable at Gamescom, Aug 22nd.
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Aug 1, 2017 17:23
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If they have all the time in the world, you are doing it wrong.
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Aug 7, 2017 22:03
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I think that's almost entirely to blame on the fact that it's being rushed as poo poo (seemingly more so than every other game ever). We didn't get a beta, we got a demo, it was just so rear end awful we've done our best to forget it exists.
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Aug 8, 2017 08:16
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I watched it if you have any questions, I don't know what to start with describing it. - About 1 minute or so showing how the series/tournaments have grown since Xmen vs SF to UMVC3, old tournament footage spliced with footage from Infinite CG cutscenes, was actually quite cool and would be a decent trailer for competitive MVCI. - MVCI 'esports' for 2017 will be mostly online based qualification and then part of Capcom Cup in 2018 - revenue/costing for suits and TO's Fellblade fucked around with this message at 16:08 on Aug 8, 2017 |
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Aug 8, 2017 16:05
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That seems bad but then you remember Capcom has no characters anybody cares about outside tiny fanbases for old games. Like I'm mad for DMC but that series hasn't had a new Capcom game in 10 years, it's lucky we got Dante at all.
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Aug 10, 2017 08:11
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1. It's not final 2. Just fuckin' divide it between them equally
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Aug 10, 2017 17:01
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Game looks worse than we'd like, SFV had a bad release even if Capcom are genuinely supporting it, netcode is likely to be bad because there is no such thing as good netcode for games that require frame specific inputs in a PvP situation, fair if hyperbolic statements. Not wanting to buy the game also fine. Pretty sure you can buy MVCI for like $50 though so calling it $100 is just a lie.
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Aug 16, 2017 16:10
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There exists no fighting game where players don't poo poo on the netcode, there's bad and less bad. Just don't buy the ultimate edition, they wouldn't have made the 6 dlc characters at all if the dlc didn't exist.
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Aug 16, 2017 16:15
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fadam posted:personally, and maybe its just me, but I feel like the roster is a pretty big "feature" in a fighting game This would be a legitimate point if the roster didn't exist unless you bought each character individually. e; I have absolutely no doubt this was suggested during design meetings for MVCI. Fellblade fucked around with this message at 17:47 on Aug 16, 2017 |
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Aug 16, 2017 17:44
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fadam posted:People seem happy with the netcode in MK XL, Injustice 2, and KI. I played a buttload of Injustice 2 when it came out and I had very few matches that felt bad. So the second point, the DLC characters would not exist if they weren't DLC. The game would have 6 less characters, in fact the game might not have even been made at all without the potential to generate the extra revenue from DLC. fadam posted:No, actually this doesn't make any sense. The discussion was about the game being feature complete, you implied that it wasn't feature complete because of 'the roster'. I am saying that nobody can reasonably say it's feature incomplete due to 'the roster' as it has a base roster of 30+ unique characters.
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Aug 16, 2017 17:59
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I mean, you could be posting in threads for games you like or are looking forward to but instead you are all posting in the thread of a game that you hate and want to fail. 
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Aug 16, 2017 21:58
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fadam posted:And you could be doing the exact same thing and yet here you are, complaining about other people's posts instead of just ignoring them. How bizarre the nature of man. I am doing that same thing, this is a game I am looking forward to? How is that in any way bizarre?
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Aug 16, 2017 22:01
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It's not looking the case, we get it, we've been getting it for the past like 4 months. It's boring now.
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Aug 16, 2017 22:02
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fadam posted:It is pretty clear nobody in this thread has anything positive to say about the game. If we all left it would just be you, Race Realists and that guy who is only buying the game because Mega Man is in it. That's not true at all, it's actually that everybody has just stopped posting or reading the thread because it's poo poo to read due to any positive comments being dogpiled. You are right though, you made me sign up for Reddit and I loving hate Reddit. NecroMonster posted:i think games being good is more important than defending game series or publishers from criticism I totally agree with this post. This isn't an attacker vs defender of Capcoms virtue though, it's realist or optimist vs extremist or sensationalist. Fellblade fucked around with this message at 22:12 on Aug 16, 2017 |
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Zand posted:is there something positive to discuss with this game that im missing It's not about positive it's about engaging rather than circle jerking and dog piling. I think it would be interesting to discuss things like how it's apparently a complete failure to make fighting games accessible for newcomers and is likely the complete opposite, maybe what they could have done differently without ruining it for high levels of play at the same time. Plenty of other poo poo to talk about other than lolgamebadhurrr.
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Feature list: Nothing special, Beginners League is the only unusual thing.
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Aug 17, 2017 17:37
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While being hit, you can tag in your second character for 2 meters (combo can continue).
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Aug 20, 2017 18:59
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fadam posted:So you can try and use the second character to stop the combo? That's kind of neat I guess. Does the damage on the non-active character increase or whatever like in previous games or no? I guess that's the idea, damage doesn't change. I think it's unlikely that a combo is going to continue long with another character on screen as all the moves/inputs are relative to the 'active' character, even if you don't try and get a hit on them. Your opponent can also tag (for free) at the same time to stop you stopping the combo, though that leaves their initial character vulnerable for a long rear end time. You can get happy birthday'd here quite easily it seems.
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Aug 20, 2017 21:08
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Let's face it, Hawkguy is the only Hawkeye costume worth having, he only has bad costumes.
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Aug 21, 2017 17:39
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Race Realists posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=160&v=IwNi6G_Bd3Y Is it actually though or is this some fake news poo poo? I listened to that video then the Iron Man 3 theme and they didn't sound the same, maybe I am music blind.
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Race Realists posted:wait till somebody uploads the theme directly. you'll be able to hear it better. Not EXACTLY the same but you can definitely hear it So despite saying it's the same, what you actually meant was, it's not the same. Good posting bro.
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