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MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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Ugleb posted:

My problem is that there are two troll slayers and the are both doing the same huge leaping thing.

That's just how the new plastic teams are produced - they make one sprue that has three linemen and three positionals on it (and balls, token and coin) and then you get two of the same sprue in the box.

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MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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Safety Factor posted:

I just built the new Blood Bowl dwarf team and I've just got to say that these are probably some of the best dwarf models GW has ever made. There are some great details like the blitzer's gut hanging out of his shirt. Can't really tell behind the beard though. :v: My one issue was that the bare-headed slayer head didn't quite fit right and needed some minor gap filling. That may have been on me, everything else was flawless.

My bare head slayer didn't fit as well as all the other models either - nothing really bad but it was noticeable.

Do you have any idea whats going on with the runners face? One of the eyes in the helmet is covered up and the other isn't. Going by the painted team the covering is part of the helmet but it looks weird to me.

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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My bet is some or all of the blood bowl section on http://www.solegends.com/citcat2005ussc/index.htm. So the newer end of the old releases.

£30-40 a team, 6-8 a regular model (slightly cheaper if they add the team boosters rather than individual models) at least 12 each for big guys (and 20 for the death roller)

Or who knows? I want a lot of old blood bowl stuff, so my wallets probably going to take a big hit.

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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Blood Bowl made to order - Dark Elf, Chaos and Chaos Dwarf. Full teams only - Chaos has a mutant added, Chaos Dwarf has the option of 2 bulls or no bulls. You can also order the trophies, a dark elf assassin and you can order the bull centaur separately.

So, no way to get dark elf blitzers or chaos dwarf blockers without buying a full team.
About what I expected from GW, I bet they still get a ton of orders. Including mine, if they don't sell out before I get one in

The only thing that confuses me is no minotaur. Both Chaos and Chaos Dwarf can take them, and they could charge a premium for a metal big guy.

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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berzerkmonkey posted:

Those are the only teams? Bummer. I want me some gobbos.

I have a feeling that they will be doing more made to orders this year. My guess is the next one would be either undead / khemri / vampire or amazon / lizardmen / wood elf.

EDIT: The reason I think they'll do more is because they're going to make a bunch of money on this round. I think they're doing 3 at a time for logistical reasons (which is why they're not doing separate blitzers/blockers - those molds are being used for the team sets) as well as business ones (if you put the whole catalog up for only a week then people will buy less than if its spaced out). The 6 teams i've listed have a vague thematic connection (undead / exotic) and are all pretty unlikely to be getting plastic updates anytime soon, as well as being pretty popular.

I don't think they'll do a made to order for any teams that have plastics out or plastics coming out soon, and the rumors are that Goblins and another team (Nurgle, I think) are coming out this year.

MrFlibble fucked around with this message at 00:57 on Apr 8, 2017

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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Atlas Hugged posted:

I can't find on their webstore where these things are for sale. Is the deal over already?

Nah - its only up in the future lands (New zealand to be specific). Should come up 10am saturday local time.

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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Atlas Hugged posted:

Well that's an hour and a half for me, but I'm guessing I can't buy them from the US webstore until tonight then.

They should be available for a week. I mean - they're made to order so even being stupidly popular shouldn't cause them to sell out like all the new Bloodbowl releases or SW:A.

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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Atlas Hugged posted:

Would anyone be interested in buying a Chaos Dwarf team with 2 bull centaurs and selling me the second?

Just in case there was a miscommunication and this isn't you worried about the things selling out - you can buy bull centaurs separately. They're pretty expensive, either way (£15 each in the uk, the team without them is £32).

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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Atlas Hugged posted:

Sorry, I missed the end of the sentence where you said you could buy things separately. My bad. Wow that is expensive.

I'm not shocked by it - they're pretty much big guys and GW has always figured it can get away with charging through the nose for them. Its still cheaper than ebay prices.

Looking at the old catalog - If they bring back Vampires, pro elf or Undead I'll pick those up.

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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SteelMentor posted:

Bunch'a new rats and a naked Dwarf man.



I think the booster packs are a good idea but good luck to any poor fool getting resin skaven. I'd also like to know who decided that all the resin star players would be posed standing on one foot.

My MTO chaos dwarfs arrived - they didn't send any round bases for my bull centaurs but an e-mail seems to have taken care of it. I kind of figured from the pictures on the shop but they didn't use one of the hob goblin sculpts (the old team had 4 variations, the team they sent only had 3). I have 4 black orcs to finish and then I'll get to work on them.

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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SteelMentor posted:

Gobbos are on the way, plus the old Necromantic team (along with some others) is up for Made to Order.

MrFlibble posted:

I have a feeling that they will be doing more made to orders this year. My guess is the next one would be either undead / khemri / vampire or amazon / lizardmen / wood elf.

I am very hopeful that the rest of my prediction comes true.

The goblins look ok but with only one troll sculpt I think i'll pass for now.

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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glitchkrieg posted:

That's a terrible lineup for Necro, and I'm betting there's no way to get a second Golem without buying two boxes.

Its not bad if you like to have 4 re-rolls but I would not take that bet - even if there is a way to get a second golem it will be expensive.

I won an auction for the other undead team last week (£12 cheaper than GW mto but need stripping) so I'll probably pick up this to get the 2 extra ghouls as well as have the option for necromantic undead.

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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Tomorrow there will be another round of Made to Order for Blood Bowl - Necromantic Undead. Shambling Undead, High Elf, Lizardmen. The Kroxigor is also going to be up, more expensive than the bull centaur was (looking to be about £18)

Also there will be the new Goblin team and Death Zone season 2. DZ2 will have rosters for Chaos renegades, Goblin and underworld because those teams don't require additional models to be sculpted I guess.

The goblin team doesn't seem to have a transfer sheet listed. If the team doesn't come with one then thats a load of horse poo poo. The only reason I could see to not showing one on the site is that it contains spoilers that they don't want to reveal just yet. Like the names of two new secret weapons they're rumoured to have (sold in a pack with the pogo guy).

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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JcDent posted:

This Gobbo release seems to be aimed at orc players that want to throw something during the game, so it seems.

Theres a full team available as well - the secret weapons are going to be forgeworld.

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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Marmaduke! posted:

I was not under the impression that 4 goblins makes up a full team, actually...

(Lol autocorrect)

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/BLOOD-BOWL-SCARCRAG-SNIVELLERS-GOBLIN-TEAM-2017

The 4 goblin pack is for orc teams, which can take 0-4 Goblins.

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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I'm going to make a prediction in this thread - I believe there will be one more round of Blood Bowl made to order - not necessarily next month (thats the big warhammer 40k release right?) but this year. The teams will be Wood Elf, Norse/Amazon (not both) and Halfling, with a tree man up separate as well.

I ordered the Necromantic team (but i'll order a third party flesh golem and werewolf to complete the team) and caved in and got the goblin team and a troll. I really dig the new fanatic, even if it is resin.

I also finished painting my Chaos Dwarf team, just need to matte varnish the gloss, and base them.

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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The Sex Cannon posted:

I don't like the "pitcher" troll that GW sells for Orc or Goblin BB teams. What is the next best thing to do if I want to make a 2-troll Goblin team? Has anyone converted those sweet River Trolls (or whatever the gently caress they're called now)?

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/01/12/andys-blood-bowl-troll-conversion/

Its not much of a conversion, but this guy used one. Since they come in a pack of 3 you should have good enough options. Someone on facebook also posted a photo of the blood bowl troll with a slightly better pose that I intend to try to replicate (the arm not being right in front of the face helps a lot)



I'm going to try and find the old Ripper model for my second because I want a stone troll and a river troll on my team. If you're doing a strict GW league then those are your best options but if its not run by GW you could go third party. I'm fond of the Willy miniatures trolls but you can see a good selection of third party models here http://www.comixininos.com/blood-bowl-teams/elfos-oscuros-1/trolls.html

Also your models look amazing.

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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The Sex Cannon posted:

I'm very excited to see the rules for Swoop and Fan Favorite.

Fan Favorite is +1 FAME modifier to the kick off table, or at least it was. I am also curious to see what Swoop does.

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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Redvenom posted:

I know it's goblins and I know who cares right, but 30k extra for +1 FAME and d.presence is so not worth it. Thematic yes, waste of money, hell yes.

Our regular BB season is starting up soon. Is there interest in match reports or season summaries? It's a game a month, so there will be quite the gaps in between.

I'd read them.

And I could see the 'Ooligan having some situational uses, but I'd have much preferred a squig or squig hopper. Heres hoping the doomdiver is good (and the models look good. I'll field an 'Ooligan if its a good sculpt, just for style).

My big hope at the moment is they change the Ogre team when it gets put into an official book. They wouldn't be overpowered if they just switched out the snotlings for goblins or halflings.

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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Lord_Hambrose posted:

I love playing Ogres, but it is a tough one. If you didn't have to constantly rebuy dead snotlings you would be able to get max Ogres pretty quickly, and having AG 3 Goblins would give you a ton more scoring threats which may also be too much.

Halflings then? They have less movement and armour than Goblins but are slightly less likely to fall over to a stiff breeze than snotlings.

Plus halflings are cool.

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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It looks like there might be a squig star player in DZ2 for Goblins and underworld, which is great news, because I really wanted an excuse to get a squig.

I broke down and ordered the lizardmen and High Elf teams. I was able to find a sprue of saurus warriors for a £5, so completing the team wasn't too heavy hitting on the wallet.

For the elves i'll probably try to get two more blitzers and 2 witch elves and paint the team dark colours so it can be used as pro, high or dark and then pick up the wood elf team if they MTO it.

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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I got DZ2 and the Goblin team today. A brief look through DZ2 - theres a major sponsorship that allows you to roll 3 dice when your players skill up and choose two of them (the drawback being if you roll two or more ones you get a niggling injury) and chaos renegades get an orc lineman in addition to goblins getting the 'ooligan and doom diver.

The Goblin team comes with transfers, have no idea why they weren't included on the website.

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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Zaphod42 posted:

Whole ton of new Bloodbowl products got announced

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2017/05/warhammer-fest-2017-blood-bowl-action.html

New elven plastic team coming, looks decent but not crazy about the face mask

Skaven booster pack (awesome), Human booster pack coming (awesome), Glart Smashrip super fatty skaven star player, official proper fancy mousepad pitches, cool stuff.

Thats the blitzer. I expect the linemen will have half mask / no mask.

I was at warhammerfest today. I asked about MTO - apparently they think Halflings are indeed on the next wave (they aren't the same branch but they do have some influence on whats being chosen). The two criteria are the molds have to have survived (which might be why the chaos dwarfs are missing a hobgoblin sculpt) and that the teams can't be competing with new product thats out / coming out in the next 6 months. So I was pretty much dead on with my thoughts on how they decide these things.

Bloodbowl has sold so well that they intend to release all the teams in plastic now (each team with dice, cards and a pitch). They've hired two more people for plastic production and once the elves are out they're aiming for a new plastic team every 4 months, but the elves might be a while. Death Zone season 3 is planned to be wizards, undead and chaos along with star players and other things.

They're thinking about doing resin conversion kits (similar to the orcland raiders / bright crusaders) for mutations.

I think thats all.

EDIT: They sold out of all the Goblin secret weapons before I got there, but I managed to pick up the ogre and halfling set.

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MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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Der Waffle Mous posted:

Glad it's doing well enough for them to do more teams in plastic.


Now where's BFG :colbert:


Atlas Hugged posted:

And Gorkamorka?

In the specialist games seminar they did a hands up who would like bit where they gauged interest in the various old games returning. Necromunda got the most hands, Mordheim just behind. Gorkamorka and BFG got less than mordheim but still a sizeable number.

What this means is anyones guess but I imagine we'll see necromunda and mordheim before anything else and probably Gorkamorka before BFG because it doesn't require many / any new models really.

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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SteelMentor posted:

Apparently there was talk around Warhammer Fest of Ogres being sooner than people thought, supposedly the design team had some kind of bolt of inspiration in updating them/giving them new player roles so that's a surprise.

I mean, I'm still surprised we're getting Halflings next after Elf Union.

I seriously doubt that we're getting new halflings any time soon. They might* be reprinting halflings in the next made to order wave, but those will be old sculpts. As for new teams I imagine it will be Nurgle after elf union (honestly surprised elf union are first) and then the other flavours of elves mixed in between the death zone 3 teams, which are supposedly chaos chosen and undead (or at least thats the current plan).

*They indicated to me that they were on the schedule, but they couldn't guarantee it and jokingly told me not to tell anyone (as in they joked it would be on twitter before the end of the talk). Any team that gets a made to order reprint isn't going to get a new version within 6 months.

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/06/18/blood-bowl-made-to-order-2/

Wood elves, Halflings, Ogres and Vampires coming for made to order. I called two of these before going to warhammerfest but i've got to say I did not see ogres coming - and vampires were only slightly more likely than them.

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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with a rebel yell she QQd posted:

Whelp, I completed my vampire team last week. Might grab a treeman, as its missing from my collection.
Ogres? Wonder what they will cost, if 42 euros like full teams, might be even interesting.

Supposedly - the MTO models have all cost the same as the old models did + inflation (or whatever, something to the effect of they cost the same amount in real terms). So if anyone knows what the ogres used to go for we could probably get an estimate of how much they will cost.

The ogre team is really convertible - if they're the same price as other MTO teams i'll probably buy two sets. I'll definitely pick up the halflings and probably one treeman - but I don't think i'll pay £18 for two of the same.

I am also enjoying the match reports.

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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Halflings, Woodelves, Vampires and Ogres go up for Made to Order tomorrow.

The Halflings are a team of twelve and a chef, no treemen included.

Looks like the Halflings, Woodelves and Vampires will be £32 and the Treeman will be £18 (or in other words, the same price as the last round of MTO). The ogres are 149 new zealand bucks so im going to guess... £48.

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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I ordered the halfling team + 2 treemen and 2 Ogre teams. The vampire team is a slightly different scale to the rest of blood bowl models (Pro elfs and vampires look very small and fragile compared to even third edition teams whereas the third edition teams fit in fine with new blood bowl models) so i'm going to pass on them.

If I run out of teams to paint before GW get to a new vampire team (Currently have High Elf, Lizardmen, Necromantic + shambling, Skaven, Goblin, with Ogre and Halfling coming) i'll get http://www.gaspez-arts.com/vampiri.html the vampires from gaspez arts and use human linemen for thralls.

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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ineptmule posted:

BB2 has many more players and BB2 LE now has all of the teams. As far as I can recall BB1 never got to having all.

There are also a host of other features in BB2 LE, some of which are pretty cool (more multiplayer features, league and admin types etc.) and others are batshit insane (mixed teams.)

Edit: Not sure Khorne daemons are in BB2 LE :(

Blood Bowl 2 LE is missing only Chaos Pact as far as official teams go (kislev are reskinned slann). The thinking is that they are going to do a chaos expansion with Khorne and chaos pact included, at least judging by some temp files someone discovered.

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:

Probably the same as their comparably sized boxed games, so around £70rrp would be my guess.

A good bet - I wouldn't be surprised if the pricing is exactly the same as Bloodbowl down to gangs/teams, deathzone/gang war etc.

I'm definitely picking Necromunda up - with alternating activations it should be easy enough to set up 2v2 games and hopefully it'll be more popular than Bloodbowl (which was really fun but impractical to play 2 games simultaneously). Plus, its harder to get the group all together to play Bloodbowl when we all have computers and legendary edition is right there.

It does mean my heap of unpainted MTO Bloodbowl teams are less likely to get painted anytime soon though.

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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SteelMentor posted:

Everything in the box will be available separately straight from the bat! Personally I'm over the moon, I'm not really fussed on getting the Golliaths, but I wanted to paint some Eshers asap.

If you only want one of the gangs but also want the terrain your best bet is still buying the box. You can sell the rules, card tiles and other gang on ebay and come ahead of where you would be or keep the gang and have bits for conversions for just a little extra. I mean its nice they're selling the terrain separately but its pretty expensive.

Also if you want the new rules rather than to just use the models, because I bet the gang war book references the starter rules.

Lord_Hambrose posted:

I really hope the new Gangs come quicker than the Blood Bowl teams. This being really popular can't be a big surprise for them this time, so I am hopeful.

All four of the other house are coming in 2018 at least. Apparently Bloodbowl was a surprise to them and they didn't realize how popular it would be - a lot of delay on teams was switching back to plastic when they had intended to do future teams in resin. They must know that Necromunda will do as well so I would expect them to be better.

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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moths posted:

I really hope we get a PDF and made-to-order for the classic gangs.

I highly doubt we'll get made to order of the house gangs because they've already announced new versions will come in 2018 and one of the restrictions on MTO they have is no models that replacements for are coming soon.

A PDF for stuff like Arbites, Scavvies, ratskins plus MTO for them is much more likely.

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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Schadenboner posted:

I'd be a little surprised if the Redemptionists got a straight reissue, they're pretty :heritage:-looking to US audiences (although the conical hat-thing is actually a Spanish Inquisition thing, which I'll bet you didn't expect!)

(Cue the :heritage: assholes :qq:ing about this in 3... 2...)

I don't disagree with your assessment but I'm fairly sure GW won't give two tin shits about it if they expect a reissue to make them money.

The companies making WW2 miniatures haven't stopped selling nazis have they?

No doubt a new redemptionist gang will be visually different though.

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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JcDent posted:

A historicals company could survive simply on nazis

This is both good to know and slightly disturbing.

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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TTerrible posted:

The premise of blood bowl is an organised sporting event. Being able to play one off games out of a box without league play is kind of reasonable. Necromunda is a small scale skirmish wargame built entirely around around creating a gang, personalising it and watching it grow. They made a concious choice to split it up to make more money.

Not wanting to have rules in the main rulebook for stuff that isn't in the box is weak as gently caress because they are the people that decided the terrain wouldn't be in the box. They added an entirely new way to play the game to justify spreading it over two purchases. :cripes:

I think it makes sense. I mean, I would prefer they did card terrain like the original box apparently had but that wasn't on the table because GW have all this plastic terrain they want you to use.

This is how GW operates - army books, codexes, supplements - if they can charge separately for it they will.

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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TTerrible posted:

Did you miss all the times I said I'm not mad that its expensive in this form, or would be expensive in the form I've proposed but I'm irritated by people claiming they had to do it this way for bullshit reasons? Are you actually reading my posts? Please write back.

Dude, you seem pretty mad. People are excited that a game they liked is coming back, just let it go.

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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Hey looking at my old posts I worked out why the minotaur wasn't part of the first bloodbowl MTO wave (they had a model in the works :) )

Atlas Hugged posted:

We said the same thing about Blood Bowl and got met with the same counterarguments.

After the first post pointing out that its disappointing that the campaign rules aren't part of the boxed game it gets really loving tedious listening to people bitch about it. Add the price of the supplement to the box and judge accordingly or look for the rules on ebay or just don't play the loving game. It sucks that GW are milking the games for all they're worth, but thats what companies do. Every single post with woulda/coulda/shoulda ends with didn't.

More people are playing Bloodbowl because theres a box out and the same will be true for Necromunda. If you don't like the new release ignore it and stick to your old stuff.

I sometimes have to remind myself that its insane that armies in warhammer 40k each have their own rulebook in addition to the 40k rulebook because I grew up owning the Dwarf army book and that poo poo is normal to me.

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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Lord_Hambrose posted:

I really just want a Mordheim revival, and this is a good first step in that direction.

Yes this

Lord_Hambrose posted:

They could even update the setting to be scavengers in a ruined AoS town and it would be fine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECfRp-jwbI4

I will be buying Necromunda, Gang wars and probably all of the gangs that I like the looks of. I really like the new Eschers and Goliath models.

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MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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Atlas Hugged posted:

Same. Also I'm still hoping for books to be released outside of the box.

Ebay, or you'll be waiting a long time.

GW want you to buy the box and putting the rules out separately means you won't buy the box. I mean, you won't buy the box anyway but someone who would prefer just the book will.

Edit: There are people who bought multiple copies of Bloodbowl to fill out their orc/human team because those teams weren't released separately at the time.

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