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Comrade Merf
Jun 2, 2011

rudatron posted:

I feel like this is your opportunity to explain why, instead of being a dick :colbert:

I've only some of his stuff quite a few years ago but if I remember correctly War Nerd believes that the USA using aircraft carriers as one of the primary ways we enforce our military dominion wherever we please is doomed to failure not by socieo-econimic or political means but that aircraft carriers are in fact just giant extremely vulnerable money and manpower traps that can be easily neutralized by just about anyone using whatever form of equipment they have available. Which is a really weird stance when you consider that the United States use aircraft carriers to put aircraft where they need them and that they don't just sit a few feet off the coast of whatever their operational target is and always have sizable escort groups.

He may have some good insight into other subjects or matured and grown his knowledge of nerdy war stuff since he wrote his carrier stuff so I dunno.

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Comrade Merf
Jun 2, 2011

rudatron posted:

I feel like that's just an untested assumption. It may legitimately turn out that carriers are actually really vulnerable if ever used against a sufficiently powerful enemy. Submarines have come a long way, surface to surface missiles have come a long way, maybe if you shoot 20+ anti ship missiles at a carrier, it'll just go up in smoke no problems. But you don't really know either way for sure unless it happens.

Its more that he fundamentally misunderstands the purpose and function of a naval carrier group. I'm not arguing that the carriers themselves are not vulnerable because they are, every major power since WW2 has dedicated lot's of time and money to build their own and/or develop technology to gently caress them over. I mean they are gigantic nuclear powered floating cities that can't go all that fast but their purpose is not to fight it's to sit in the water and refuel and re-arm combat aircraft. It's similar to saying well tanks are useless now because they can be destroyed at range by infantry with modern anti tank systems or that aircraft are now worthless because of modern air defenses. Everything committed to a fight is vulnerable to be knocked out but that is not a sufficient case by itself against using them.

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