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Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

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The shorts are great because they seem to do an interesting job at fleshing out Tanya's personality a little when they otherwise perhaps lack the needed screentime to do it in a natural way.

People are people; people have moments where they think of inappropriate jokes or becoming surprisingly out of character on a whim; it's hard for people to be "consistent" 100% of the time and I can buy Tanya having calmer more introspective moments or otherwise willing to crack jokes or troll/tease the soldiers under her command.


Hahaha that ending.

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Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

College Slice
I thought the rifles were bolt action though unless I'm misremembering.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

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An elite Rangers/SAS/SPARTAN-II's unit could probably be extremely useful as well. The question is if they have enough Mages.

Tanya's requirements to join her force are probably unreasonably high but probably not by much in comparison to real world special operations forces. Just having magical talent isn't enough to also be a gritty tough as nails specialist soldier.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

College Slice
The irony being she did it to get them to quit only for it to backfire and make them worship and fear her as a malevolent god more than the enemy.

quote:

I'd rather not see a little girl torture naked men in a dark place thank you very much.

Considering the industry I'm shocked they didn't include this.

I'm actually really glad she doesn't appear to be wearing the overcoat in the show that manages to keep a consistent Prussian/WWI aesthetic instead of being vaguely WWII SS-esque.

Sadly certain people have latched on her visa joke and videos of that are annoyingly appearing on my feed.

e: Not sure why you edited it out unless it linked to mangafox or something.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

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cant cook creole bream posted:

I am glad the ending theme is back again. It's so intense. I guess they just didn't want to play it after the genocide of fantasy Cologne.

Köln is too far to the rear for it to make sense as a nest of partisans.

Based on the maps I vaguely recall seeing, the city in question is actually likely either Reims which seems somewhat far forward, Arlon in the Netherlands, or Luxembourg City.

I'm slightly annoyed at the V-1's appearing this early when the first manned flight of the Heinkel He 178 wasn't until 1939. 1925 just seems way too early.

I say this mainly as someone who finds it interesting to speculate on the differences scientific development when applied to armaments might take in a world with practical magic and it kinda renders such a game more difficult with more egregious divergences; when everything else seems like it followed plausible paths this seems quite severe.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

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Davincie posted:

there is no such city as arlon in NL

Obviously I got Belgium and the Netherlands mixed up.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

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Poil posted:

drat high command spending resources on war effort instead of anime. :argh:

The chart doesn't lie!

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

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paragon1 posted:

I'm not sure what it does! :psyduck:

I wanted to originally make a parody chart of Reagan's tax breaks chart / Laffer Curve but make it imply that you got more moe the more money you threw at anime; but I couldn't find one I could easily edit, so I went and found an Uncanny valley chart instead figuring I could put something humorous in the "Uncanny valley" pit, missed that there were two lines and couldn't figure out what the two lines should represent and so I just did whatever.

But tbf your reaction I think is funnier than the chart so probably worth it.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

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I hope he gets fished out too. :ohdear:

As much as Tanya is meant to be built up as this evil order obeying role perfectionist I love how the soldiers under her command we can generally root for.

Once again we get another anachronism in the form of what I think are distinctly Panzer III's (Sd.Kfz.142) which were also only first produced in 1939 (Designed in 1935).

I could see it being bumped up a decade assuming a constant investment of resources but I feel like that should still make it only beginning to be produced in 1928 ish. We should really be seeing Panzer II's instead even though the series is significant amounts of Gay Black Hitler material as it is, but industry trends of "Could the Germans have developed X by Y if they had enough effort and made the right choices?" is generally easier to speculate on.

German and perhaps ironically, even allied tank development was largely strangled by the end of WWI as a victim of its own success. No one had the money to put into serious tank research during the early 20's other than the ordering of some prototype designs; the Weimar Republic and the Soviet union would start secret cooperative tank research in 1926 leading to the first Soviet mechanized brigade in 1929 using tanks whose designed was based off of the Renault FT; so you only really see more modernish tank designs start to take off and see wide spread production during the 30's.

What's oddest is the complete lack of tanks before this point. Tanks aren't like cavalry where on the static front they would lack the mobility to navigate No Man's Land or the protection to survive machine guns. In WWI the British and French had been using tanks in piece meal roles since at least 1916 though it wouldn't be until 1918 that they were used to their fullest effect to break open German lines, but they had enough success to prompt requests by commanders for their full production.

We probably should have been seeing their use in piece meal fashion by the Entente; the Empire taking note of this and producing their own, also using them in piecemeal fashion in response and then someone at General HQ suggesting "Hey what happens if you put them all together as one force at one point of the line?" right around the point the first design that has just enough protection and speed to be useful for mobile war.

Operation "Revolving Door" seems to be heavily based off of the 1940 Fall Gelb offensive also known as the Manstein Plan. Although without the aspects of the Ardennes forest being weakly defended due to perceived impassibility for armour. Here they just used mines to literally blow open trenches recently captured by the Entente.

Honestly I feel like the overall plan here had too many complex parts that relied a little too much on luck to pull off. Mainly Lock Pick; if it was just exploding out through relatively poorly defended forests on a quiet sector of the front it would've lessened how much depended on RNG.

It will be interesting if a preference for complex interlocking plans leads to a fuckup, Admiral Yamamoto had a similar thing happen to him, he often liked to split up his forces that couldn't really coordinate to fulfill crazy complicated plans and this didn't work very well very often.

From what I glanced at the Manga they had tanks in the opening chapter, so I wonder if we're just seeing some pacing issues.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

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I saw rumours on reddit that we're getting a split cours/another 12 episodes.

I don't think we're seeing a counterploy as I think abandoning good defencive ground and exposing your army to massive casualties isn't something any army would do; note how the Empire carefully withdraw to minimize casualties outside of a token rear guard.

Assuming the show does follow proper military logic, counter attacking a counter attack is really hard and we've seen no indication that anyone in the Entente chain of command knows anything on their own; look at the planning and preparation on the Empire's side of things and how much the plan had to be disseminated down to junior officers.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

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RangerKarl posted:

Allied Kingdom is most definitely the UK in this rendition.

Yeah I think they're doing the 1940 BEF thing. They are providing air cover and are trying to counterattack, can they succeed? No idea. But they're probably going to become the closest thing to killing Tanya since the start.

Anyone know if the Not Soviets have a NAP with the Not Germans?

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

College Slice
So that actually made me think a bit, what's the history of the Soviet Union with such a powerful Germany? During WWI the Germans let Lenin go to Russia specifically so he could ferment Revolution to distract the Russian Empire from the war; which worked beautifully. The Treaty of Brest-Litovsk gave the Germans a moment to catch their breath and send something like 18 divisions to the Western front for their last chance to end the war on something approaching decent terms.

So definitely strange, how does Lenin get to end his exile from Tsarist Russia? Did Poland exist before this moment and did that prevent the Empire from invading Russia weakened by Civil War? Or were they too worried about the Entente? What prevented the Entente from intervening and sending supplies, arms, and small expeditionary forces to help the Whites just like historically?

My guess is the Entente and Tsarist Russia were allied; somehow the Empire found the opportunity to let Lenin return, the Civil War happens but they don't intervene because they made an agreement with the Bolsheviks, "Hey, we won't touch you if you don't ally France?" And Lenin was like "Deal"?

How the October Revolution happens without a disastrous war to break confidence in the Tsarist government or famines starving the cities driving the Proletariat into forming the Petrograd Soviet I dunno, but whatever.

But timeline bits: Presumably the Bolsheviks fight a less devastating Civil War with less outside interference from the Entente and Americans, the Treaty on the Creation of the USSR and the Declaration of the Creation of the USSR are signed in 1922. A mere three years prior to the latest episode. Tanya would be around 8 years old now.

Also in 1921-1922 the New Economic Policy was adopted during the 10th Party Congress; historically it would only be abolished by Joseph Stalin in 1928, which is still 3 years to happen.

Lenin dies historically in 1924, Stalin would be appointed General Secretary of the Communist Party's Central Committee in 1922 and presumably consolidates his position between 1924-1928, though arguably he doesn't finish this process until after the Purges are launched after Kirov's murder.

1925 would put as at about when the NEP is in full swing and beginning to show a serious recovery of the Soviet economy, but also just before Stalin manages to secure his position; it could be very interesting if Trotsky succeeds in ousting Stalin and the NEP continues into the 30's, though it is unknown if the USSR would have sufficiently industrialized to have resisted the Nazi invasion without the sacrifices in blood, tears, and folly Stalin put the USSR through.

It's interesting we've basically hard nothing about Russia from Tanya's perspective, especially since Viktoriya is apparently from Moscow and escaped the Reds during the Revolution. If this was a Harry Turtledove novel we'd be seeing/hearing news clips/newspaper articles/rumours and such of what's happening in Russia; could be problems with pacing that the LN/manga handles better but it seems like a missed opportunity when it comes to Viktoriya's characterization.

But most importantly the USSR should probably not be in any condition to fight if anything at all like the Civil War or WWI happened (to prompt the Civil War); on the other hand since it seems like the Russians weren't involved with the fighting at all and somehow the Soviets won and took over without prompting of an outside foreign war and avoided the 5 million casualties and occupation from the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk; then maybe the USSR's economy is far closer to how it was in 1913 than it was historically? So perhaps the Russian Union or whatever its called here could potentially be our Cool Communist Antagonists of a later season? Just strong enough to be a threat, but weak enough that Tanya and the Empire are pretty much eye rollingly doomed as a result of their entry.

This is why I get annoyed by the more egregious anachronisms like the Panzer III's because at this time The USSR doesn't even have this tank yet while the Germans get a design from 1939?.

The Soviets shouldn't really have the industry at all to put out designs like The T-26 or the T-34 which would be the natural counter to the Panzer III. The Chelyabinsk Tractor Plant wouldn't be constructed until 1933 as a result of the first Five Year Plan, and Chelyabinsk, the Stalingrad Tractor Plan, etc were the massive Ford-style series production lines plants designed and built primarily with American assistance from Chrysler, GM, and Ford, and famous industrial architect Albert Kahn. Over at the Military History ASK/TELL thread (Really good thread, pro click) SA user Polyakov has an *awesome* series of effort posts on Soviet industrialization and their industrial organization that Wikipedia just doesn't tell me anything meaningfully about.

Without these factories it's hard to imagine the Russian Union mass produces the vehicles they need to win; but if Germany has the Panzer III despite their own notorious screw ups with production and logistics then maybe Ford built those Tractor plants in Tanya's timeline? Who knows!

This is where Alternative History takes on a certain amount of nerdy fun for me is looking at the timelines of when things happened and seeing where they fit. The Anime is really stretching things and I hope the LN/Manga doesn't basically.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

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Iretep posted:

Its also possible that magic allows technology to advance faster somehow.

This only really goes so far; the work clearly wants some sort of internal logic and consistency and it's just unfortunate that the studio made these mistakes when in the manga/LN we have equipment that are far more justifiable.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

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Interestingly the naming of the operation as "Revolving Door" probably has more in common with the so called Schlieffen Plan then with Fall Gelb boringly named "Case Yellow".

Also of interesting, falling back into Imperial/German territory to expose the Entente to a flanking envelopment is probably the only way the Schlieffen Plan probably would've worked. It's main flaw was that the German forces exhausted themselves from the sheer speed of the march and distances covered; soldiers apparently falling asleep while walking and boots disintegrating according to the Military History thread.

The nerd in me would have preferred it being a much more touch and go thing, older tanks, breaking down on the road; small local unsupported counter attacks disrupting the Imperials but not seriously endangering the overall plan and so on. I was pretty much in suspense most of the episode until the Panzer III's showed up.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

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The problem is when these developments aren't happening in an apparently even manner aside from maybe the Entente having submachine guns. It's hard to see Tanya as facing a real threat when her side is handedly winning the Lensman Arms Race when the actual Germans were just inundated with barely functional at best boondoggles throughout the war.

Apparently that V1 is accurate enough as a cruise missile to hit a bunker square on the nose dead center when the V1's and V2's had a hard enough time hitting London (Spies being flipped notwithstanding).


Right now it isn't a huge issue because it's only these last two episodes that had these things starting to pop up but it's the long term implications of it that are problematic unless we see some the Not-Americans with Pershings.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

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Argas posted:

Weren't Tanya and her squad directing the V1's? I mean, it's still a pretty accurate hit but we're talking about some form of guidance up until they eject, rather than real life V1's.

I hadn't considered that, though they did pop out prior to the missiles hitting and that raises some questions* about the ballistics of it, because it seemed like the missiles went in like a MIRV warhead.

*That I'm not qualified to answer. :v:

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

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Isn't it Zawa zawa?

I love these shorts.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

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Hahahahahahahahahaha.

You ain't leaving that Fox Hole Tanya!

Her break down at knowing that this is perhaps the worst possible outcome for the Empire strategically in the long term, presumably if the Americans and Russians eventually get dragged in to the war is pretty fun to watch.

It's interesting because in another type of show the protagonist would be like "Screw our orders, we're doing what's right!" But no matter how much it physically pains Tanya she appears to be physically unable to do so.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

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cant cook creole bream posted:

Can someone clarify what happened there for me?
The republic surrendered the capital and their navy is fleeing. Now they announced a cease fire but that's not good enough for Tanya, so she personally wants to wipe out all the remaining forces?
I know it would probably be better for the empire in the long run, but that's kind of a weird approach. And why was she so surprised at this outcome?

It isn't clear to me if the government like in 1940 lost control of Charles De Gaulle and the Free French forces or if the government is just playing for time but in either case:

Basically the army and navy is packing up and redeploying from mainland France to North Africa, where they are essentially out of reach of the Imperials because the Kingdom's navy is too powerful; even if the Republic pulls a Vichy France if the army won't obey and the army sets up a military occupation of the colonies there's nothing they can do.

Basically Tanya figures if the war isn't actually over and the Not British and Not French stick it out then history will probably repeat itself and she'll find herself on the losing end of the war and forced to keep fighting until she dies in combat or is handed over for potential war crimes.

e: Interesting from Wikipedia:

quote:

As a junior minister of the French government, he [De Gaulle] unsuccessfully opposed surrender, advocating instead that the government remove itself to Algeria (which was an integral part of France at the time) and carry on the war as best it could from France's African provinces and colonies.

So in many ways this history is playing out worse for not!Germany.

Raenir Salazar fucked around with this message at 20:26 on Mar 24, 2017

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

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It's Dunkirk all over again. I just realized it!

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:

The thing is that everything is also Tanya's fault. She backsassed god to get put in the world. She proposed the task force for him to highlight her file when it was being made. He just steers things her way. I don't think the war's escalation can be blamed on Being X.
The only explicit fuckery that he's done is with the gem, in which he protects her. The point isn't to kill her after all. If anything being x has been her source of good fortune. It's her own rigidity and trying to game the system that gets her in trouble.

I'm not sure if Tanya blames Being X in general, certainly for bullshit that seems to single her out like the Finnish Colonel also having her abilities; although if after 'today' she starts to lose it and starts blaming every time she stubs her toe on MBX than hehahaha yeah gently caress yeah we're on the Leleuch bandwagon now.

The extent that Tanya is cursed by her own success is an interesting one, if she wasn't so desperate to get into the rear areas in safe role through the most "optimal" path of min-maxing her career she wouldn't have a literal target painted on her back; but might have also been a lot closer to death in certain ways.

It's kind of like Akagi, each time she wins she's forced to go double or nothing in a much more dangerous game; is Being X forcing this? Probably not, the social, economic, and strategic forces at place are what's driving it. Of course if she fights well she'll be picked for more dangerous assignments, of course if she's smart and tries to show boat to command her skills as a commander/operations person she'll be tasked to lead those assignments and so on.

Being X doesn't have to do anything, Being X can probably see the future and has a high enough WIS stat as a godlike being to know how Tanya and the General Staff/Politicians will act in most situations and only needs to nudge things every so often.

e:

Lets look at it another way, what happens if Tanya decides she wants to live, but doesn't cling desperately to any opportunity for it.

Tanya is smart, while it's probable she could get drafted if she doesn't enter the military, if she can wait until she's 18 then she avoids the current war nearly entirely*; if her actions don't result in the Empire winning decisively then the war also likely ends before she's drafted and she can safely either join the military voluntarily after the war is already over or any other career using her knowledge and intelligence to succeed in any other career path.

Likewise what if she still joins but decides to not actively pursue Command track? Doesn't become a test pilot? For all we know her initial deployment is because she's an rear end in a top hat and got relegated to what was supposed to be a out of the way front where she can't upset anyone important? What if she decides to just Meh her way through training? She's probably put somewhere else as unsuited.

She *could* also possibly just *surrender* to the Entente in Finland instead of fighting it out, then gets to stay out of the war as a POW after a brief fire fight.

In the Rhine front shortly after that fight in Sweden she also has that option to just surrender; or just continue to rely on her superior equipment, skills, and training to survive encounters and sustain minor injuries to stay in leave.

In the ASK/TELL Military History thread there's a German soldier who survives the entire war largely because he's constantly ill and his diaries are fascinating.

It's accepting command of her battalion that there's essentially no way back; maybe if she half assed the training her unit probably would've been rendered unfit for action after a few engagements against peer forces.

*Apparently she's 9 when she first enlists and apparently graduates her training in under a year, the war starts in 23. If she didn't enlist and presumably is instead drafted at 18 that would have given her nine years to sit things out; perhaps she would risk starving the death or what but with Mage talent perhaps she has a civilian way out before the military scoops her.

Addendum of course is if/when things start going really badly she might still be drafted into the equivalent of a Mage Volkssturm but by then the war is close to over and she can just surrender at the fight sign of trouble.

The thing that's really likely to screw over Tanya is to what extent she's this universes Joachim Peiper, right now it's about 50/50; her actions at the city with the partisans I don't think have any Nuremberg equivalent but her authoring the paper used by High Command to justify the operation puts her on a bad slope towards being arrested post war on charges of war crimes (If as things get desperate she's forced to do more unsavoury things to win, or more papers are used by Command to justify other operations).

Raenir Salazar fucked around with this message at 00:04 on Mar 25, 2017

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

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I just noticed but, is Tanya always sporting a pony tail when in uniform? Is she Kyonko?

Iretep posted:

The problem with sitting out the war is she doesent trust being x to not gently caress her over and delay the war until she is exactly 18. Plus she had no idea when the war proper starts when she was 9. You also have to keep in mind she is a female orphan so her chances of hitting it big outside the army are slim. Where as she is blessed with a potent magic ability and the army dont care about your gender so for her its a natural choice for a get rich quick plan.

I assume the war starts either way, but if she sits it out then it's likely the country loses the war before she's old enough to draft.

Briefest of googling but I believe Imperial Germany had free primary public education for both girls and boys particularly if they were poor; with a similar drive to succeed and pull herself up via her own "bootstraps", I think its certainly plausible that if she weren't so determined to maximize her efficiency to find "the good life" she might have found a significantly less dangerous way to avoid death.

Would Being X still have it out for Tanya? I'm kinda wondering just how much of his efforts are out of spite for Tanya succeeding despite all odds and how much effort Tanya is clearly putting in to out spite Being X back. A quieter way of life where she just ignores Being X might have avoided his more direct interventions and instead channeled it to more mundane efforts to poo poo on her life; like a fight with a drunk hooligan or getting her to move to Dresden in time to be fire bombed; basically just one quasi-natural disaster "act of god" after another she has to dodge at the last second like Anime Final Destination.

As it is now depending on what actions Tanya might be forced to take in her efforts to keep the Empire from losing the war might put her in a no-win scenario she can't escape.

Basically, if she instead chose the civilian life, then she's constantly rolling the dice and has to accept that maybe today's the day she falls in front of an oncoming train for the second time, instead she's forced into a chessshogi game where Being X is slowly setting up the board to checkmate in 200 moves and I think her freak out this ep is her realizing there might not be anyway out.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

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MonsterEnvy posted:

Appearntly they have a civil war going. Viktorya is a refugee from it or something.

I believe that's a reference to the October Revolution that would've happened in 1917 and is presumably over now with the Bolsheviks the victors.

In my post further above though the Soviets in this universe assuming they're following a vaguely similar development as historical should be something like at least a decade out from being effective combatants but who knows; maybe skipping out on WWI lets them speed up development and the 5 year plans significantly earlier.

If some makes a list of "10 Most BadAss Moments in Anime 2017 Edition" I want Viktoriya's shooting Sioux and clipping her commander to make the list. That takes some serious balls to take that shot considering how much she fears Tanya.

Raenir Salazar fucked around with this message at 02:34 on Mar 25, 2017

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Mordaedil posted:

That did end up saving her life, so I think she's at least a little grateful.

I imagine she is yes, my impression is Tanya is slightly oblivious to the extent that people fear her (at least as far as the Mini eps are concerned); and in another sort of work that sort of fear would have led to her dying then and there as a result of it because her subordinates would have been too afraid to shoot.

Much like how Stalin died of a stroke because his guards were too afraid to check in on him because he made it clear he wasn't to be disturbed; and probably spent hours suffering before someone did.

Viktoriya going to pretty much any length to help Tanya though has been well hinted at and it's basically one of my favourite character moments in anime.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

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What would the Soviets ride. IIRC Russia I think has some witch folklore like the Baba Yaga and her house that moves via chicken legs but nothing comes to mind for flying stuff.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

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hoobajoo posted:

In Soviet Russia, Salazar's mom rides you!

Please take care of her new dad. :shobon:

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

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Just me or did HorribleSubs miss a whole bunch of lines?

Tanya has been sent to Africa in an analogue to the Afrika Korps; the idea of sending a small mobile force to help Germany's Italian allies from losing all of Africa and threatening their Southern flank in the Balkans or Italy; though being a Major unless she was promoted several ranks to General she probably doesn't command the Corps, but as mentioned this episode probably does have a lot of latitude and discretionary authority to sortie with her specialist force.

In this case instead of helping some erstwhile allies the force is being sent specifically to do search and destroy against Tanya's version of the Free French forces; which seems questionable as Rommel was only supposed to be given enough to help the Italians his forces won such stunning victories against the British that OKW and Hitler were forced to expand him from a Corps sized formation to an Army and send tens of thousands more troops, hundreds of vehicles and tanks, and further stretch the Italian Navy's ability to supply Rommel's advance.

In Tanya's universe there isn't really an "Oops, I won too gud" here, just, here's a corps, now find the enemy and destroy them Hannibal style, somehow. Which is actually kinda perfect in how it encapsulates the flaws of German military thinking which sorely lacked a solid appreciation for logistics or the long term big picture; everything was about Will. That anything else was defeatism and you just didn't Try Hard Enough to bend reality to your Will to achieve victory.

We got to see some Russia Yay! Albeit they weirdly had German railway guns, looked like the Karl; the Soviets had large WWI era howitzers which I think we saw the Empire using instead weirdly; the 203 mm howitzer M1931.

What's kinda strange is how the Allied Kingdom and the Russian Federation are only really joining because of the Empire's "Bad Boy" meter then because of either an pre-existing Alliance (England WWII), violation of neutral border nations (England WWI), or because of just breaking a non aggression pact and attacking first (Barbarossa),.

The Germans in Africa were relatively lucky in that some 300,000 of them got to end the war early in 1943 in Tunis where they were contained by the Americans and were forced to surrender (versus dying on the Eastern front). Conceivably if Tanya was really lucky that would end up being her fate too; but I place good odds on her winning a bunch of victories and is like Hannibal forced to withdraw to fight on the Eastern front if it/when opens here before she can finish off the Republic.

Mary Sioux's speech was also awesome; who is her VA?

And Tanya has the best speeches; her "I'll be 18 eventually" voice is pretty nice to look forward to.

e: does anyone know why Tanya was at the General Staff HQ? I have a feeling Tanya went for some reason that didn't end up happening thanks to War Nerd.

Raenir Salazar fucked around with this message at 18:00 on Mar 31, 2017

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MonsterEnvy posted:

She wanted to talk to the Generals.

About what though that would've gone differently then her superior in the Western theater?

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

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The LORD works in mysterious ways. Is literally in the bible.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

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Kylra posted:

Maybe bible god is kind of a jerk too. Just need to look at Job. I don't think bible god hands someone a button that is labeled "FREE INFINITE NUCLEAR WEAPONS" though.

Jericho? :colbert:

Honestly the abilities Tanya, Mary and Anson got all seem comparable or are mild to what occurs in biblical scripture.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

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My thinking is that it's also entirely possible that perhaps Being X is sufficient omniscient that he sees whatever the end goal is and is guiding things to that end; whatever it may be.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

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I iirc hear that Being X is slightly less overtly dickish in the LN/Manga. Which is interesting as I think we as the anime audience mostly root for Tanya based on Being X being this Lovecraftian entity.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

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She didn't go :commissar: on the dude suffering from PTSD.

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Nov 5, 2010

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ViggyNash posted:

And it only took a couple million mutilated soldier corpses to (maybe) save Tanya's soul. Good work, Being X!

It depends if they are all p-zombies and she's not.

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Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

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AmaLee does her version of Jingo Jungle

But who is the white haired girl? Is it Viktoriya? And if it is, why does she look sublimely crazy?

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