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The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Traditional Games > February Trad Games Design Contest: Let's Make a (Not Crappy) Anime RPG
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TheSoundNinja
May 18, 2012

 During the Trad Games chat thread, an argument ocurred. While there was an agreement that BESM (Big Eyes Small Mouth - an universal "Play Any Kind Of Anime" RPG) was just the WORST, no one could really come up with a good system to use to play an anime campaign.

So gently caress it, let's be constructive and fix the problem by making some kick-rear end anime RPGs ourselves!



This contest will run a little differently than most on the board, as the only way to avoid the problems of BESM is to not make a universal system, but to make a game that can run a particular kind of anime. I've crafted a list of "Anime Genres", and like a 48 film competition you'll be assigned one at random. Will you have to make the best Magical Girl RPG? Perhaps a "Fish/Fishes Out of Water" story? WHO KNOWS!



Anime can be released in different ways and are created to serve different purposes and entertain different audiences. The best way we can simulate that is to introduce a "Modifier", which every entry has to utilize. Will you have to make a mash-up of two genres? Will you need to use your RPG to promote an item for sale (which, for some reason, is sold seperately)? Does it need to encourage a Melodramatic story, or an ULTRAVIOLENT ONE? All will be revealed at the start of Week 1. All entries must be a Sequel Series that involve something from the past as something the characters in the game are affected by.



Before Week 1: Sign-Ups are open! As soon as I have 8 participants, I'll be drawing each participant's randomly chosen Anime Genre. Did you wait too long and 8 already signed up? No worries! Just post here and let me know you need a genre - everyone who signed up by January 19th was given theirs that evening, so I can draw yours as soon as I know you're in! Sign ups end January 28th at 11:59p CST: sign up by then and you'll get your Anime Genre. I'll also be posting the whole contest's Anime Modifier then, so everyone gets both at the same time.

Week 1: Come up with an RPG concept that will fit your Genre and uses the contest's Modifier, then post a 150 word ad-blurb that would go on the back of the corebook if it was sold in stores by February 5th at 11:59p CST.

Week 2: Make some progress writing up something and post proof of your efforts by February 12th at 11:59p CST.

Week 3: Have a rough draft ready and submit it by February 19th at 11:59p CST. It doesn't need to be perfect, but it should be playable because...

Weeks 4, 5, and 6: Have your rough draft playtested by someone else participating in the contest, and playtest (or find some people to playtest) someone else's game. Submit your thoughts by March 12th at 11:59p CST. Use their feedback to...

Week 7: Finish up your game and submit it no later than Sunday, March 19th by 11:59p CST.



1. Your game MUST embody your assigned genre, and incorporate the contest's modifier.
2. Your game must be an original IP - Even if Go Nagai gave you permission to make a Cutey Honey RPG, you wouldn't be able to use that IP for this contest.
3. Also, your game needs to be original for this contest. There is nothing wrong with modifying Cortex+ or D20, but the theme needs to be represented by your mechanics, and the game must be created during the contest.
4. You can do whatever you like with whatever you make - sell it, give it away, lock up all copies in a safe - but by participating you give me permission to record an Actual Play podcast session using your final entry, if you are one of the chosen finalists.
5. You are expected to submit by the listed time and date listed at the end of each week in the schedule. All times are listed as CST, so you might need to convert it to whatever timezone you live in.
6. Because I know life can both suck and throw unexpected hurdles your way, you get One Late Pass (see below).



Late passes allow you to miss a deadline and still be in the running. As long as you submit both the missed deadline and the current one, you'll still have an opportunity to win! Now, as anyone who has watched anime has seen, being late to class requires a punishment. You'll need to write 150 word fanfic related to your entry and submit it by that deadline as well. Feel free to use the fanfic in your entry if you like, it could come in handy. The other option is for you to donate to the prize pile instead of writing a fanfic (with your donation being given randomly at the end of the contest to someone who didn't make it to the finals).



After the final deadline, I'll pick the four eight finalists. All four eight will be played on my podcast with my gaming group, and the winner will get a $35 DriveThruRPG gift certificate to spend as they see fit. All of the finalists, however, will get lesser amounts of DriveThruRPG gift certificates. DriveThruRPG actually donated them, and if we get more than 8 entries I'll give out rewards to the top 8 entries (though the top 4 will still be the only ones featured on the podcast) we have over 20 participants, so I've asked DTRPG for more support and have keys for Tabletop Simulator to giveaway as well. Plus, I'll feature all 8 finalists on the podcast. Also, there are super-secret maybe anime related prizes, so that's a thing.


TheSoundNinja posted:

Rule 3 simply states this thought that was brought up in the chat thread: You can't submit an already made anime RPG to this contest. Ettin couldn't submit Breakfast Cult, for example. But making an OSR or D20 game that is designed around magical girl storytelling? Totally game.

So why the limitation on IP? Because the argument wasn't about "There isn't a good Sailor Moon game." I want you to make something that you can sell afterwards, and keeping it to original IP lets you do just that. There's nothing wrong with references to shows that exist, just make them a little more vague. Afterward, if you want to be less vague, why not make a supplement for your game that let someone run a Sailor Moon game? These guys did:

TheSoundNinja posted:

Bendigeidfran posted:

Awesome, I can totally work with this. Just got to look through Ryuutama again, watch me some Patlabor, lightly season with Fruits Basket and garnish with a dash of Natsume Yuujinchou...

So for Slice of Life I can aim for a relaxed feeling instead of relying on the "school hijinks" segment of the genre right? Like take Patlabor for example. It's technically a Real Robot/Police series, but it's super low-key most of the time and focused on the daily lives of the characters. You'd be hard pressed to say it's not slice-of-life in spirit. And I mean...it's one of my favorite shows and I wanna put its influences in my silly anime RPG :v:

I completely understand if incorporating that kinda thing steps on other genres' toes too much.

In all the editing of a pancake party trailer for a client, I totally missed your question! Thousand pardons, my friend.

In what way can you shape the mechanics to encourage that feeling? I love the way PbtA games use their experience point questions to encourage and celebrate players embracing the tenants and feel of the genre they are going for.

Slice of Life could be used in these other genres, but the relationship dynamic and interaction with the world as a whole (and how that affects the characters) would make your game your assigned genre rather than something else.

Does that help?

Lemon-Lime posted:

In fact, here are some TV shows for every genre:

Shounen: Dragon Ball/Z, Saint Seiya, One Piece, Naruto, Hunter x Hunter, Yu Yu Hakusho, Jojo's Bizarre Adventure

Romance: Ore Monogatari, Akatsuki no Yona, ReLIFE, Snow White with the Red Hair, Princess Jellyfish, Kimi no Todoke, Nana, Toradora

Giant Robot: Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann, Gunbuster/Diebuster, Giant Robo: The Day the Earth Stood Still, Shin Mazinger Impact Z!, GaoGaiGar, G Gundam, Tetsujin 28-go, The Big O

High "Seas" Adventure: Space Dandy, Kino's Journey, Super Dimension Fortress Macross, Outlaw Star

Slice of Life: K-On!, Flying Witch, Tanaka-kun is Always Listless, Non Non Biyori, Barakamon, Sound! Euphonium s01, Nichijou

Magical Girl: Go! Princess Precure, Sailor Moon, Cardcaptor Sakura, Symphogear, Flip Flappers, Madoka Magica

Business: Shirobako, Spice and Wolf, Girlish Number, Working!!/Wagnaria!!, Servant x Service, Dai-Guard

War/Real Robot: Space Battleship Yamato 2199, Mobile Suit Gundam 08th MS, Mobile Suit Gundam 0080: War in the Pocket, VOTOMS, Fang of the Sun Dougram

Horror: Serial Experiments Lain, Shin Sekai Yori, Neon Genesis Evangelion, Mononoke, Another, Ghost Hound, Shiki, Higurashi: When They Cry

Sports: Captain Tsubasa, Eyeshield 21, Haikyuu, Chihayafuru, Yuri on Ice, Gundam Build Fighters, Hajime no Ippo, Ping Pong: the Animation, Prince of Tennis, Initial D, Major

Sci-Fi: Cowboy Bebop, Planetes, Time of Eve, Legend of the Galactic Heroes, and a large number of shows already in other categories on this list

Isekai/Fish out of Water: Visions of Escaflowne, Grimgar of Fantasy and Ash, KonoSuba, Log Horizon s01, Gabriel Dropout, Birdy the Mighty: Decode, The Devil is a Part-Timer, Urusei Yatsura

Fantasy: Seirei no Moribito, Records of Lodoss War, Slayers, Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood, Berserk (the 1997 OVA), Hitsugi no Chaika, Rage of Bahamut

Cyberpunk/Transhumanism: Dennou Coil, Bubblegum Crisis, Appleseed, Battle Angel Alita, Cyber City Oedo 808, Ergo Proxy, Real Dive

Sentai/Tokusatsu: Gatchaman Crowds, Re: Cutie Honey, any of the Super Sentai or Kamen Rider live action series

Post-Apocalyptic Punk: Fist of the North Star, Trigun

Mystery: Hyouka, Erased, Mushishi, Eden of the East, Steins;Gate, Monster, Rokka no Yuusha (but don't bother watching the last episode)

Period Piece: Rurouni Kenshin, Shouwa Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu, Katanagatari, Samurai Champloo, 91 Days

Police/Organized Crime: Baccano!, Patlabor, You're Under Arrest, Detective Conan, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex, Psycho-Pass

Many of these actually cover multiple genres, of course, so which genre they appear next to isn't exhaustive.

Also, this is just TV shows, not films or manga.

Rigged Death Trap posted:

For mystery boxers (Food and/or Cooking):
23 key reading materials:
1. Yakitake Japan
2. Toriko.
3. That one panel of a turkey in hunterxhunter.

Else if youre not going to recognize the ridiculousness of the premise:
The Drops of god

Plutonis posted:

Shougeki no Soma and Cooking Papa are good poo poo too

TheSoundNinja posted:

Ettin posted:

I'm trying to win this contest though :getin:
NOT ALL ANIME IS GOOD. SOME OF IT SUCKS.

Antivehicular posted:

Yeah, my assumption is that there can be some degree of genre crossover as long as the focus is on our assigned genre. (Bolded for confirmed emphasis)

TheSoundNinja posted:

LuiCypher posted:

As a note though, I won't be able to playtest someone else's game because my group does not have a consistent weekly or even monthly meeting. I can try to schedule something now to try to address it in advance, but I'm not confident I can find a place in my group's schedule when I only have one weekend to playtest it. If this passes the buck in an unacceptable way, let me know and I'm happy to back out now.

So, having your game be playtested is a requirement. I would prefer you playtest someone's game (as that would help them out), so do schedule something. I am willing to accept having someone else take care of playtesting someone else's game in your stead if push came to shove, but you would need to put in the work to make that a possibility. The person who playtests for you would need to get you their feedback on the game as it stands in time for you to upload their findings as a post here in time for the deadline.

TheSoundNinja posted:

Sir Mopalot posted:

For stuff that is a hack of an existing ruleset, does it need to have an OGL or similar agreement?
If the terms of the ruleset require it, yes. I'm not sure on the Cortex+ requirements, but D20 does require it to be included at the end.

TheSoundNinja posted:

Kwyndig posted:

Sir Mopalot posted:

I'm looking at one that has no open license of any sort.
Well you can't copyright mechanics. You can trademark and copyright specific terms, but not mechanics. Basically what this means is to be completely in the clear you'd have to rewrite all the stuff so you're not directly plagiarizing the game text.

This only matters if you're trying to make a real game out of it, usually fanworks aren't pursued because the money involved is nonexistent in the RPG industry.
For this contest, you'd need to write it in a way that you could sell it if you wanted to. But Kwyndig is right, only key terms can be copyrighted. Mechanics are fair game.

TheSoundNinja posted:

Quick clarification to the word counts:

I'll paste the Ad Copy or Fanfics into a Google Doc, Highlight it, and use the word count tool on the selection.

While Ad Copy (the 150 word description) will need to be exactly 150 words, fanfics can be longer. Also, the Ad Copy can be accompanied by more detailed descriptions of what you're working on.

TheSoundNinja posted:

[...]Also, there were no PnP Mah Jong decks out there. Which is bullshit, because Hedningen's "Burning Fires of Youth!!! The Demon Lord's Return!" needs a Mah Jong set (cards or tiles) for its mechanics. So, gently caress it: I made one myself using the Public Domain tile images on Wikipedia. Whoever playtests it, or is interested in the game (of Mah Jong) in general, there ya go.

EDIT: And since some of you are using Cortex+, or could just use these for whatever you're working on, here's an album of dice icons I made that are public domain.

Antivehicular posted:

Covok posted:

Cooltext?
A pretty quick tool for making text logos with effects. Not deluxe, but good for those of us with no graphic-design skills.

TheSoundNinja posted:

I found a thing on my favorite "I wanna learn / make a thing" site, LifeHacker that may be of interest to anyone looking to learn how to use Photoshop and software like it in a short amount of time.
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EDIT: Added one more week to playtesting, due to scheduling issues. This pushed back the final deadline by a week.

Thanks to the fine people listed below for donating prizes:

TheSoundNinja fucked around with this message at 00:43 on Mar 6, 2017

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 Before I show you the participants, if you are playtesting any of these games please read this post by Comrade Gorbash



GUNS!
Covok
- Anime Genre:Shonen
LATE PASS USED
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Armilage: The Peace Keepers
Free Cog
- Anime Genre: War and/or Real Robot
LATE PASS USED
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Alien Rope Burn
- Anime Genre: Sci-Fi
LATE PASS USED
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Davin Valkri
- Anime Genre: Fish / Fishes out of Water
LATE PASS USED
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Strikers [NG+]
Lurks With Wolves
- Anime Genre: Fantasy
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Antivehicular
- Anime Genre: Giant Robot
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Mr.Misfit
- Anime Genre: Period Piece
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Hedningen
- Anime Genre: Shonen
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Agent Rush
LATE PASS USED
- Anime Genre: Cyberpunk and/or Transhumanism
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Requiem of Rose: The Third Age of the Zalfor Saga
DNA Cowboys
- Anime Genre: Horror
LATE PASS USED
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Waffleman_
- Anime Genre: Romance
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OSRMANCE: Adventures in Love
rumble in the bunghole
- Anime Genre: Romance
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Past Steel
DeadReed
- Anime Genre: War and/or Real Robot
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Department Zero: Stand Together Complex
Error 404
- Anime Genre: Mystery
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Dog Kisser
- Anime Genre: Horror
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Psycho-Knights: The Intersection of Power & Terror
drrockso20
- Anime Genre: Horror
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Second Wave Motion
Bliss Authority
- Anime Genre: Shonen
LATE PASS USED
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The Road To Audax City
Mitama
- Anime Genre: SPORTS!
LATE PASS USED
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Banchou Breakers
demota
- Anime Genre: Period Piece
LATE PASS USED
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Wax Wings ~Memories of Labyrinth~
Mr. Fowl
LATE PASS USED
- Anime Genre: Cyberpunk and/or Transhumanism
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終わりなき生存：Forever Existence
LuiCypher
- Anime Genre: SciFi
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Trollhawke
- Anime Genre: High "Seas" Adventure
LATE PASS USED
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remusclaw
- Anime Genre: Giant Robot
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EscortMission
- Anime Genre: Magical Girl
LATE PASS USED
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Brother Entropy
- Anime Genre: Police and/or Organized Crime
LATE PASS USED
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Heavy Hearts
FewtureMD
- Anime Genre: Magical Girls
LATE PASS USED
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Rangpur
LATE PASS USED
- Anime Genre: Sports
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Snooze Cruise
- Anime Genre: Business
LATE PASS USED
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Plutonis
LATE PASS USED
- Anime Genre: Slice of Life
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The Joy of Cooking
Kwyndig
- Anime Genre: Food and/or Cooking
LATE PASS USED
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Ettin
- Anime Genre:Post-Apocalyptic Punk
LATE PASS USED
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frankenfreak
- Anime Genre: Business
LATE PASS USED
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Deep Diver Daedalus
Rigged Death Trap
- Anime Genre: High "Seas" Adventure
LATE PASS USED
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Kowloon
K Prime
- Anime Genre: Police and / or Organized Crime
LATE PASS USED
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Comrade Gorbash
- Anime Genre: Sentai / Tokusatsu
LATE PASS USED
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Sequel Series! Regardless of your genre, and whether through mechanics or simply the setting, your game must involve things from the past affecting your players.

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EDIT: And we're done! Here are your "Being Considered For Finals" Participants. I'll be deciding who goes into the finals over the next few days.

Shoutout to Mr. Maltose for making a Discord for organizing the playtesting!

Mr. Maltose posted:

Anybody interested in the unofficial Design Contest Discord can hop in here

TheSoundNinja fucked around with this message at 06:06 on Mar 27, 2017

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May 18, 2012

rumble in the bunghole posted:

I might be down but the whole thing has so many rules and Musts, like it's a homework assignment instead of a fun experiment in design. I have no idea how I'd rope in my usual group into playtesting Maid 2 as well. Can't we just submit a final copy or something?

Which "musts" are too much, if you don't mind me asking?

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May 18, 2012

drrockso20 posted:

Not sure about him, but Rule 3 definitely removes any desire I have to join this contest


rumble in the bunghole posted:

Rule 3 seems pretty dumb to me as well. I get a need to encourage creativity, but it's just stopping more casual forays into design. Plus it blocks a lot of jokes as well, like OSR Sailor Moon or Gumshonen. If you're scoring based on mechanics and ideas, just don't give rote stuff a high score.

Rule 3 simply states this thought that was brought up in the chat thread: You can't submit an already made anime RPG to this contest. Ettin couldn't submit Breakfast Cult, for example. But making an OSR or D20 game that is designed around magical girl storytelling? Totally game.

So why the limitation on IP? Because the argument wasn't about "There isn't a good Sailor Moon game." I want you to make something that you can sell afterwards, and keeping it to original IP lets you do just that. There's nothing wrong with references to shows that exist, just make them a little more vague. Afterward, if you want to be less vague, why not make a supplement for your game that let someone run a Sailor Moon game? These guys did:
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TheSoundNinja
May 18, 2012

 Sorry for the wait - I had to swing by a college to learn how an intern can get college credit for the work he's doing for me.

Current Genres posted:

- Shonen
- Magical Girl
- SPORTS
- Giant Robot
- Horror
- Mystery
- Slice of Life
- SciFi
- War / Real Robot
- Fantasy
- Period Piece
- Fish/Fishes out of Water

So what is Giant Robot and what is Real Robot? Giant Robot is more akin to series like Tenga Toppa Gurren Lagaan, where friendship and belief are more important than how the robots actually work. Real Robot is more akin to Mobile Suit Gundam 08th MS Team, where it is all about how the robots operate and the real horrors of war.

EDIT:

Lemon-Lime posted:

I'd like to introduce everyone to my Legally Distinct IP, Uniformed Soldier Selene, which is about a high school student called Luna Goodmoon (who is secretly Uniformed Soldier Selene) and her friends Uniformed Soldier Poseidon, Uniformed Soldier Ares, Uniformed Soldier Zeus and Uniformed Soldier Aphrodite, who all fight evil together.

TheSoundNinja fucked around with this message at 20:49 on Jan 18, 2017

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TheSoundNinja
May 18, 2012

 Alright, with demota signing up, I'll be getting even more prizes for you guys.

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May 18, 2012

Alien Rope Burn posted:

Did somebody say anime?! :woop:

...

I mean, sure, it's not like I care but whatever. Here's a list of anime genres and a list of anime topics, if you even want them, it's not a big deal or anything.

Alright, got everyone up to Alien Rope Burn added to the list. Also, I was surprised to see your post when I tried to go back and add more names.

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May 18, 2012

Brother Entropy posted:

i don't know jack about writing rpgs and i don't know jack about half of the genres in that list but gently caress it, i want in

Isn't Hamsteaks your favorite anime?

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TheSoundNinja
May 18, 2012

 :goku: More prizes have been added! All finalists get a copy of Tabletop Simulator to keep or give to a friend (say one you want to play board games or RPGs online), and store credit for DTRPG ($10 for 5th Place, $15 for 4th and 3rd Place, $20 for second and $35 for the over-all winner). I've also updated the rules to include 8 finalists instead of 4, so yay! :goku:

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May 18, 2012

Covok posted:

Sweet. That actually sounds pretty awesome. Oh, by the way, do we get a mulligan on our genre if we get one that we've never seen before? Like, for example, I've never sat down to watch an anime sports series in my life and don't have the time to watch one for research. So, if I get that one, it'd be a little hard to work with. Or is that against the spirit of the contest?

Alien Rope Burn posted:

Yeah, it's something to consider, I was wondering what I would do if I get something I'm unfamiliar with. (Do what all RPG publishers do and fake it, I guess.)

This might help with that.

Covok posted:

Oh, also, when do the first 8 get their genres?

So, I originally intended on drawing the genres separately for each group of 8 contestants (to allow for some duplicate genres to be drawn) and release all that info with the modifier at the start of week one. But you raise a good point: time for research is always helpful...

How would you all feel about getting your genres early (today, and whenever anyone else signs up), but getting the modifier at the start of week one?

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May 18, 2012

Davin Valkri posted:

Just for clarity's sake, what does "modifier" entail? Is it a theme that all works need to hew towards, or a character they all need to have, or a plotline they all need to use?

It's an extra requirement: The games must be ultra-violent, or the games must be made for short campaigns (that can be played over three to five session, perfect length for a convention or spring break). It could even be a requirement that your game uses some thing that can be sold separately (such as using a deck of cards for resolution, or involving the use of a particular prop - up to the game creator as to what would be used). But regardless, unlike an anime genre everyone needs to involve it in their game

Which brings us to tonight: I'll be posting everyone's assigned genres in a couple of hours (I just need to get some more work done and compile the finished list). Feel free to register for a trial of Crunchyroll to use for research. The rest of the contest will continue as scheduled, with the cut-off for signing up being January 28th at 11:59p CST. If you sign up after everyone got their genres, no worries: I'll assign you one on the spot (or as soon as I see your post).

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May 18, 2012

Error 404 posted:

Gets assigned "hentai"

Yes..."research".

*cough*JokinglyPlacedAsAModifier*coughcough*

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TheSoundNinja
May 18, 2012

Covok: Shonen

Waffleman_: Romance

remusclaw: Giant Robot

grassy gnoll: High "Seas" Adventure

Plutonis: Slice of Life

NGDBSS: Mystery

EscortMission: Magical Girl

frankenfreak: Business

demota: Period Piece

Free Cog: War and/or Real Robot

Kwyndig: Police and/or Organized Crime

Dog Kisser: Horror

Mitama: SPORTS!

Alien Rope Burn: Sci-Fi

Davin Valkri: Fish / Fishes out of Water

Lurks With Wolves: Fantasy

Mr. Fowl: Cyberpunk and/or Transhumanism

Comrade Gorbash: Sentai / Tokusatsu

Ettin: Post-Apocalyptic Punk

Antivehicular: Giant Robot

Error 404: Mystery

Mr.Misfit: Period Piece

Brother Entropy: Police and/or Organized Crime

If you need examples of these genres to watch on Crunchyroll or other services, feel free to ask. Let's talk about it here before the contest gets in full swing.

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May 18, 2012

remusclaw posted:

So Tenga Toppa Gurren Lagaan. Anything else I should look at for the Giant Robot genre? I assume stuff like Gundam is more Real Robot, no?

OHMYFRIENDTHEREISSOMUCH

- Getter Robo ("New Getter Robo" as it's known in the USA is my favorite version)

- Godannar (watch it with a special someone, the pilots are married)

- Giant Robo (the robot is Pharaoh themed)

- Kotetsu Jeeg (the main guy becomes the loving robot's head, the rest is a shell)

- Mazinger Z (also, any Go Nagai series with robots is a good fit)

- Aura Battler Dunbine (Fantasy Robot Suits)

- GaoGaiGar (the main character is voiced by Dean Venture's voice actor in the English dub)

- Linebarrels of Iron (Dying kid becomes Robot man who's strength is based on his belief in himself)

Gunbuster. loving watch it. And the sequel Daibuster.

And, there is exactly one Gundam series that works for this genre:

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grassy gnoll posted:

What does quotation marks around "seas" mean? Literally rip off One Piece, or are you including vaguely nautical themes like Eureka 7 and Harlock?

Bingo. I couldn't fit all of that in the blank on the randomizer.

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May 18, 2012

Lurks With Wolves posted:

Oh, hey. I got the genre whose seminal works are literally based on the creators' D&D campaigns. I... really hope I get an interesting modifier, because right now I'm kind of salty over getting the most generic RPG prompt possible

Mushi-shi and Monster Musume are examples of fantasy that aren't just D&D. If this is too generic, I can offer something a little different to anyone unsatisfied with their genre. I have a backup that didn't wind up on the list.

EDIT:

Error 404 posted:

Ok, so do you mean like detective/perky kids/ scooby doo type mystery here? Like solving a crime?

I may benefit from some examples here.

*extremely sherlock voice* The Game Is On!

"Another" is a good example of this. While it is a horror series, the unraveling understanding of what is happening is a great example of mystery.

remusclaw posted:

Thank you. Looks like I have a lot of research to do.

First impressions on a quick look, Giant Robot seems very like animated Super Sentaii. Would that be a correctish assumption?

They share some similarities. I'd define Giant Robot about faith in oneself and bonds with others enabling you to overcome the impossible, while Sentai being about faith and relationships with others enabling the group to overcome a great many foes.

So, different clothing on siblings I guess. Biggest difference is team size, in my opinion: Giant Robot taps out at around 2-3, Sentai traditionally is 5 or more.

EDIT:

Ettin posted:

Just to be clear, what are we talking here? Fist of the North Star, Attack on Titan, Akira, Shin Megami Tensei IV, Nausicaa, Guilty Crown? Any of those not qualify? I mean Guilty Crown was poo poo, but...

(And if you have anything else in mind let me know!)

Yes, though High School of the Dead and Violence Jack could also qualify.

Mitama posted:

Huh. My only touchstone with this is Slam Dunk, but there's probably a lot of newer stuff I can dig into.

It doesn't necessarily have to a real sport, right?

Eh, make it up if you like. Consider "Baki the Grappler", "Keijo", "Haikyuu", "Free", and "Yuri on Ice" as good examples of the genre.

TheSoundNinja fucked around with this message at 01:54 on Jan 20, 2017

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May 18, 2012

Ettin posted:

I'm trying to win this contest though :getin:

NOT ALL ANIME IS GOOD. SOME OF IT SUCKS.

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May 18, 2012

EscortMission posted:

Oh man magical girl is one of those genres that I think could really go places, but I actually don't think I know much about it outside of Madoka and maybe a little Sailor Moon from back in the day.

What's a good crash course in weird magical girl anime? I figure I'm already a good way in after Madoka.

Cutie Honey is a great place to start. It is also by Go Nagai. It isn't on any of the streaming services, but dailymotion seems to have the OVA "RE: Cutie Honey"

EDIT: Click the link here.

EDIT: Of course, a billion anime to stream, but not a Honey to watch on Crunchyroll...

TheSoundNinja fucked around with this message at 22:02 on Jan 21, 2017

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May 18, 2012

Antivehicular posted:

So just to clarify: for the Modifier, is that going to be a single element for the entire pool of entries? So we'll all have to go hyper-violent or whatever?

Yes, you'll have to find a way to incorporate whichever modifier pops up into your game.

FewtureMD posted:

gently caress it, I'm tossing my straw hat in the ring. let's make some anime elfgames.

Gotcha. Your genre is Magical Girls too.

Hedningen posted:

Yeah, this looks interesting. Is it too late to sign up, or are we still good? I think I can manage this given my current time standards.

And you have Shonen! Welcome to the N.H.K.!

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May 18, 2012

Antivehicular posted:

Honestly, I'd recommend Zyuranger for a newcomer to sentai -- it's a really good "pure" sentai series, and some of the newer series can get really cluttered. (To be fair, even the older series can be pretty cluttered; Dairanger, the series that followed Zyuranger, is a hot mess of weird half-finished plots.) Carranger is also great, although maybe less of a beginner series, because it's pretty goofy and has elements of parody.

(yes, yes, I know, nerd trap sprung)

Also Shinkenger is a great example of the kinds of character relationships and dynamics that can be useful for an RPG in that genre. It was the Sentai I started with, so it's beginner friendly, plus they're samurai-themed and poo poo.

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May 18, 2012

drrockso20 posted:

Exactly, plus it's fun to compare between it and Power Rangers for the differences and similarities between them(Jason and Geki are pretty much the only two counterparts between the two groups of Rangers to have anything in common for example, and there's a lot of differences between Rita Repulsa and her group and that of Witch Bandora and her Dora Monsters)

Also I guess I'm throwing my hat into the ring for this challenge, hopefully I get a good genre to fit with the system I'll probably use(most likely some variation of OSR system)

Oh.

Oh no.

The HORROR! (is your genre)

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May 18, 2012

Davin Valkri posted:

Can I request some examples of how this will be judged? All of the anime I can think of of the type (Spirited Away, Princess Mononoke, Ponyo, Devil is a Part Timer, Gate) use fish out of water as a modifier for another genre, like fantasy, slice of life, or even period piece (time travel stories).

To me, the genre is best represented by having an individual (or individuals, such as a group of players) put into a situation they are unprepared for, and force them to use the skills they do have (along with luck, tenacity, and teamwork) to get through the situation.

Plutonis had a great idea for implementing this, though it was based on both Fish / Fishes Out of Water and Fantasy.

An example of an existing game that does that (though in a non-anime way) is Level 99 Games "Infinity Dungeon" - In it, each player draws a different character card to play as, such as these:



...then the players have to get through dungeon rooms like these with just the items and skills that the characters have on their persons:



That is more-or-less what I consider the genre of Fish / Fishes Out Of Water. Do something with that kind of contrast, and you'll be fine. Does that help?

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May 18, 2012

Alien Rope Burn posted:

I'm not sure what sci-fi doesn't cover, honestly, outside of outright fantasy. It's a bit troublesome. I have some ideas but it's tough to think of something that might lead to interesting mechanics actually related to anime that isn't just... a sci-fi game.

Well, Outlaw Star would be a great place to start. Sure, it has spaceships and going around the galaxy exploring and docking and meeting different species, but it HAS A NUDE WOMAN WORK AS A PART OF THE SHIP, AND SHIPS HAVE ARMS AND FIGHT EACH OTHER. So do Sci-Fi, but anime it up, I guess?

The offer still stands to swap out a genre for the one not in the original list, if anyone feels like their selection is too vague and they want to try what's in the mystery box.

Bendigeidfran posted:

This hand of mine glows with an awesome power! Its burning grip tells me to enter this anime contest!

Your hand turns to you and says "Well, how about those Slice of Life animes?"

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May 18, 2012

Agent Rush posted:

I'll fight too! I'd love to try my hand at this.

A ghost comes out of your gaming machine.

"It's Cyberpunk and/or Transhumanism" it says.

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May 18, 2012

Bendigeidfran posted:

Awesome, I can totally work with this. Just got to look through Ryuutama again, watch me some Patlabor, lightly season with Fruits Basket and garnish with a dash of Natsume Yuujinchou...

So for Slice of Life I can aim for a relaxed feeling instead of relying on the "school hijinks" segment of the genre right? Like take Patlabor for example. It's technically a Real Robot/Police series, but it's super low-key most of the time and focused on the daily lives of the characters. You'd be hard pressed to say it's not slice-of-life in spirit. And I mean...it's one of my favorite shows and I wanna put its influences in my silly anime RPG :v:

I completely understand if incorporating that kinda thing steps on other genres' toes too much.

In all the editing of a pancake party trailer for a client, I totally missed your question! Thousand pardons, my friend.

In what way can you shape the mechanics to encourage that feeling? I love the way PbtA games use their experience point questions to encourage and celebrate players embracing the tenants and feel of the genre they are going for.

Slice of Life could be used in these other genres, but the relationship dynamic and interaction with the world as a whole (and how that affects the characters) would make your game your assigned genre rather than something else.

Does that help?

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May 18, 2012

Rangpur posted:

*comes racing into the thread, gasping for breath due to the effort of clicking on the forum post* Did someone say ANIME?

But seriously, I could use a project to distract me from the piss-reeking hellscape that is real life so I'm down for this. Is it still open?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7u9hP4r1S8

Yes, we're still open for business. The thread's quiet due to anime binging, I presume.

TheSoundNinja fucked around with this message at 21:14 on Jan 21, 2017

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May 18, 2012

Plutonis posted:

When's the Modifier being released? Got a concept already just need to know this before I start.

That'll be the cut-off for sign ups: January 28th at 11:59p CST. I'll be posting it right after that.

Kwyndig posted:

I'm just trying to figure out which side of the genre I want to go with. There aren't a lot of organized crime anime (although the ones out there tend to be very good.)

*coughcough*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY_s1L-MdKc
*Cough Sleepy is technically both COUGH*

Ahem, pardon me. Had a suggestion clogging up the pipes.

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May 18, 2012

Kwyndig posted:

As big as their dreams, my friend, as big as dreams.
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May 18, 2012

Rangpur posted:

A genre I'm actually familiar with, shockingly. Less certain on how to turn it into a tabletop RPG, but most sports already have clearly defined rules so it's a good starting point. Do I need to present a game that can be used to run any sport, or can I specialize?

I would recommend specializing, as that will probably be easier for you. Perhaps a sport underrepresented by the anime industry?

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May 18, 2012

Waffleman_ posted:

CURLING!

No joke: I started watching curling as a joke, and it loving won me over. Shits so cool...

Plutonis posted:

Do sports include stuff like Gamble Fish/Kaiji because that could be a badass choice too

Traditional Games or Video Games would totally count! The best examples I can think of aside from Keiji would obviously be Akagi (same universe and creator as Keiji, but about Mah Jong and Organized Crime) and the first season of Cardfight!! Vanguard.

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May 18, 2012

 On a related note, this happened:
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May 18, 2012

frankenfreak posted:

Thanks for these suggestions. If anyone else has some examples of business anime/manga, I'd appreciate learning about them.

While it is a manga, this could help: Project X Cup Noodle

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May 18, 2012

Agent Rush posted:

That's actually an important question, thanks for bringing it up! TheSoundNinja, do I need to match the themes of cyberpunk or the themes of cyberpunk anime?

A part of the reason to include Transhumanism was to try and offset that. The anime's themes would be more important.

The exploration of "What is human?" in the Ghost in the Shell movies and S.A.C. could be a good place to start.

Also, consider the good ol' Ultraviolence in a world that is past our modern day - where new tools have been created, and the value of life is lessened. Or the overcomplication of branding and product placement, such as in Tiger and Bunny (while it isn't fully "cyberpunk", that is a cyberpunk element of it).

Using the genre well should enable players to discuss those themes after playing a story or session of your game. Does that help? The mystery box is still available.

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May 18, 2012

Alien Rope Burn posted:

So, I have Space Adventure Cobra and Space Pirate Harlock to watch, but I figure I should drop a line if there's any other good references for old sci-fi anime based around an ridiculously competent marquee hero. How's that for ridiculously specific? Well, two out of three would be fine, too.

Actually, in the parallel almost-same universe as the original Harlock, try Cosmo Warrior Zero. It features a captain of similar honor tasked with hunting Harlock down, while helping his diverse crew (staffed with humans and robots who invaded and won Earth) get along while he himself is still getting over the death of his wife and daughter at the hands of these forces.

"That sounds like a bunch of spoilers, TheSoundNinja!"

Nah, that's just the first two episodes out of 13.

Also, the ship he's in has a huge laser called...


Kwyndig posted:

I agree that it is a really good fit. If I had been assigned giant robots I'd do something similar (probably not pbta though, I don't have a good enough grasp on some of the details to be making my own designs using it right now).

As for me... still no progress, but I'm leaning towards a more cops game lately. Although with my current state of mind, it would be next to impossible to actually have 'fun' playing any game focused around police that I build.

That's one of the things I like Mad Bill 34 for - everything in it is so over-the-top that it makes Law and Order look like Sesame Street.

However, there is something to be said for cop tropes. And high school student council run discipline department could be fun...

Or moderators in an MMO

Or paladins (in a fantasy world) who are a part of the order of Justitia, who detain bad guys and solve crimes FOR JUSTICE, DAMNIT!

Either way, if this genre doesn't work, that's fine. The cut-off is one day after the first person claims the mystery box. At that point, I'll be requiring some sort of fanfic-hazing to swap to the for now "mystery" ""genre"". Final genres are locked in when the modifier is revealed (as design has to begin by then).

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May 18, 2012

Kwyndig posted:

Actually, to hell with it.

GIMME WHAT'S IN THE BOX

Mr. Fowl posted:

This looks more like the cover of a DVD box set for a TV series than a movie poster.

EDIT: There was a mystery box?

Kwyndig: Retire your genre, and give it a nice pension.

You open the box, only to find an already guessed on anime genre:

FOOD! (and / or COOKING!)

EDIT: Alright, you got it! Anyone who has expressed serious concerns with their genre previously in this thread has 24 hours to declare they want the mystery box.

TheSoundNinja fucked around with this message at 08:19 on Jan 23, 2017

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May 18, 2012

 So, to repeat: the Mystery Box is Food and / or Cooking! If you've already mentioned serious concerns in the thread over whether or not the genre you drew will result in a game that fulfills it, you are eligible to claim the Mystery Box instead.

If you haven't mentioned that yet, you will not be able to claim the Mystery Box.

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May 18, 2012

Rigged Death Trap posted:

I need something to do this february is looking to be absolutely eventless.


i dehumanize myself and face to nosebloodshed
Though due to certain circumstances and locales I cannot fulfill playtesting.

Well, yarr harr and crap like it: you got High "Seas" Adventure.

Also, reach out to Mr. Maltose about playtesting for you.

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May 18, 2012

demota posted:

I think I've decided on the theme for my Period Piece subject. Its' the 1970s, and it's the height of the Banchou Era.

What do I read/watch? I know manga/anime with delinquent characters, but the only one I know that's focused completely on them is Cromartie High School.

Didn't ChipCheezum feature an episode of some bizarre bancho prizon school anime during an LP a few years ago?

LuiCypher posted:

Alright, after the fiasco that was my concept for an RPG based on The Police (it's a bit of design I'd like to reapproach in the future, but it's design concepts at the moment are well beyond my ability to forge into a cohesive whole) so I'm looking to make something a little more straightforward (given my familiarity with Anime versus The Police songs). Count me in.

As a note though, I won't be able to playtest someone else's game because my group does not have a consistent weekly or even monthly meeting. I can try to schedule something now to try to address it in advance, but I'm not confident I can find a place in my group's schedule when I only have one weekend to playtest it. If this passes the buck in an unacceptable way, let me know and I'm happy to back out now.

So, having your game be playtested is a requirement. I would prefer you playtest someone's game (as that would help them out), so do schedule something. I am willing to accept having someone else take care of playtesting someone else's game in your stead if push came to shove, but you would need to put in the work to make that a possibility. The person who playtests for you would need to get you their feedback on the game as it stands in time for you to upload their findings as a post here in time for the deadline.

I think that can work as a compromise. What do you guys think?

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May 18, 2012

Agent Rush posted:

I know I was waffling earlier, but I'll stick with my assigned genre of Cyberpunk and/or Transhumanism. I did have another question though; Would Digital Devil Saga qualify as transhumanism for this? I realize that's a video game, but the answer would really help clarify some things!

I'll probably end up leaning harder on transhumanism either way, but at least I have a starting point.

Close enough for me! That's basically an anime anyway...

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Kwyndig posted:

DDS definitely deals with Transhuman themes, along with, you know, violent demons eating each other.

Ya know, anime.

LuiCypher posted:

If this is an option, then I'll dip into the Goonpool to run a playtest of a goon game! Here we go again... again.

In other words, count me in officially.

"A-are you sure, LuiCypher-san?" your genre, SciFi, asks while blushing and brushing it's bangs away from it's eyes.

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