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Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

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I'm guessing they left those parts purposefully unclear for now and they'll do some kind of backstory episode later.

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Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

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The Sandman posted:

They're doing it wrong. You're both supposed to go sword-and-board, not.one dual-swording and one dual-shielding.

everyone knows set squares are used like punch daggers, jeez.

do you even maths

Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

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Confusion with sexuality is at odds with timeline/dub culture?

Is there a not-eyeroll-inducing interpretation of this?

EDIT: ^^^ Who gives a poo poo about what the manga says.

Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

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Rodenthar Drothman posted:

:shrug:

I, personally, love the anime and like the manga. They're different things, obviously.

It's fine to like the manga, it's just weird to use it to change the dialogue. This would be as stupid as dubbing Euphonium to make Kumiko's interactions with Shuichi seem more romantic/downplay Reina.

It's not like I'm saying translators have to be 100% literal, but come on, given that last season we had the whole thing with YoI mistranslating 'partner' as 'girlfriend'. You'd think people would learn to retain necessary ambiguities.

Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

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I quite buy the interpretation in this twitter thread.

https://twitter.com/andrearitsu/status/827199679754600448

Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

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devtesla posted:

Yea! Lets kill her

[half hearted]no don't tohru[/half hearted]

Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

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The dub will have Kanna state her last name as Not-Kobayashi to her classmates to squelch any idea she might be considered to have been adopted.

Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

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Like I said earlier, the sub and original line makes sense for a Kobayashi that is uncertain of her feelings and afraid to stand out. Remember that she initially rejects Tohru for no reason whatsoever other than her own anxiety. So yes, I think the answer literally is that Kobayashi is gay but closeted.

Also it's weird if it is actually a rejection that she would then hold hands with Tohru and later bathe with her.

So yeah the dub sucks.

Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

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It's awkward as hell to be physically intimate with someone who has a one sided crush on you, and vice versa.

Fangz fucked around with this message at 02:28 on Feb 5, 2017

Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

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I'm expecting a lot of knees for the Yamada episode at least.

Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

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Let's not post untagged manga spoilers okay?

Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

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Yes, I know that dumb idiots have done it before. I am merely making a polite request.

my thread is much better

Fangz fucked around with this message at 11:36 on Feb 14, 2017

Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

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Well that was anti-climactic.

I am curious how the dub will handle it though.

Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

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I like it. :colbert:

Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

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Hasn't a jp viewer already translated what Kanna mouthed to basically 'wash each other by licking', i.e. The thing that Kanna and Tohru did in dragon form?

Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

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DisDisDis posted:

I'm not losing my mind over it but if the author is known to be weird about kids naturally people are gonna read that into the scene rather than assuming the best about it

I think the show is much more enjoyable if you just ignore the manga, and certainly ignore the background of the mangaka.

Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

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Aw, a lot of really sweet moments in this episode.

Kanna eating things is never not funny.

Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

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That post belongs in the small maidragon thread

Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

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Long live fanservice police

Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

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Comrade Kirov posted:

It's fine! We can invade this thread and consume it just as we learned from our tiny, hungry-hungry overlord.

All hail Kanna, may she devour all in her domain!

because its smaller than the other one

Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

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https://twitter.com/Crunchyroll/status/834456907972636672

Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

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https://twitter.com/Yuyucow/status/834484159099838464

Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

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Someone really should do an edit that makes this show look like a horror thing, ending with the watermelon splatter.

Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

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I like to think of that person as Kyoani Fanservice Police. Especially since it's the same woman both times.

Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

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Anyway, this is quite impressive

https://youtu.be/gdp_Z-HfM5M

Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

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Ah hahaha

http://imgur.com/gallery/f8Z5m

Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

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It's probably poisonous.

Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

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Should I erm, apologise for starting this

Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

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Dinner.

Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

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https://twitter.com/Yuyucow/status/837019259641421829

Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

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It must be a pain in the arse to get a recharge in the other world.

Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

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I like how they use the background framing to undermine Fafnir here.





Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

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Well, I think the dub speed is kinda not the major part of the issue here. The major issue is it seems like the philosophy behind this dub script, which seems to involve the translator feeling pretty free to make up jokes/reinterpret the story as they choose.

Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

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I feel fairly confident Kobayashi will try some by the end.

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Jul 5, 2007

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Helter Skelter posted:

I just figured she was still awake elsewhere in the apartment while waiting for Kobayashi to get back.

Waiting in bed

Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

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Typically Kyoani buys the license and collaborates with the author on the adaptation. Kobayashi is kinda a special case where they aren't calling the shots though. But it can probably be assumed the original creators are okay with the changes.

In terms of changing the work post anime, I understand that might be the case with Hibike Euphonium and how that series influenced the spin-off novel series.

Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

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I suspect the commercial justification for the changes to Kobayashi is that they are releasing a spin-off series focusing on Kanna. So it makes sense with the greater focus on Kanna in the anime, and the alterations elsewhere.

Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

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Guy Goodbody posted:

Eat the drat tail, Kobayashi

Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

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I'm guessing the trick is that the heating element isn't actually that hot.

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Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

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Well, it's tough to compete with Kyoani.

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