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Zeroisanumber posted:In the case of Syria, there is no country. There is. It's actually a warzone too, it's real.
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Any able bodied man who becomes a refugee is a coward. He should stay and fight for his country.
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Nolgthorn posted:There is. It's actually a warzone too, it's real. It's a great place to live if you want to die like a dog and be crucified by maniacs.
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Jan 20, 2017 22:29
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I loving love John Denver
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Zeroisanumber posted:It's a great place to live if you want to die like a dog and be crucified by maniacs. All the conflict that's going on there probably came out of nowhere or was the fault of Germany, who never set foot there. Or, it could have been the united states that did it, which didn't exist 250 years ago and the region has been in conflict for 1400 years.
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Nolgthorn posted:All the conflict that's going on there probably came out of nowhere or was the fault of Germany, who never set foot there. Or, it could have been the united states that did it, which didn't exist 250 years ago and the region has been in conflict for 1400 years. The only mistake the US did with the Iraq war was not destroying all traces of Saddam or Islam and making it the 51st state.
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Nolgthorn posted:All the conflict that's going on there probably came out of nowhere or was the fault of Germany, who never set foot there. Or, it could have been the united states that did it, which didn't exist 250 years ago and the region has been in conflict for 1400 years. Syria was formed as a modern state in 1918 out of former provinces of the Ottoman Empire. The French ruled it until after WWII.
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Jan 20, 2017 22:38
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Zeroisanumber posted:Syria was formed as a modern state in 1918 out of former provinces of the Ottoman Empire. The French ruled it until after WWII. Fitting that the only period in which it was most modern and largely free of war was while ruled by someone else.
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Jan 20, 2017 22:43
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Nolgthorn posted:Fitting that the only period in which it was modern and free of war was while ruled by someone else. WW2 was what exactly lol a stroll in the park?
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Moridin920 posted:WW2 was what exactly lol a stroll in the park? Basically because their rulers were overcome by Nazi Germany, who Syrian's supported. To this day his book remains a best seller throughout the middle east, fyi.
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Nolgthorn posted:Fitting that the only period in which it was most modern and largely free of war was while ruled by someone else. You mean from 1516-1916 when it was under Ottoman rule and the Millet System saw diverse groups of people and religions living together in harmony?
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South Park is pretty good when they aren't being all liberal
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I also think liberals, just liked hippies before them, have collapsed into black holes of self-importance and are hurting their causes and views, which imo are mostly right and proper, much worse at this point than their opponents. When you call large demographics uncultured, racist, ignorant, stupid or just generally bad, you make these people oppose you instead of reaching a beneficial compromise. I'd call myself liberal at heart, but hearing about micro-aggressions or safe-spaces, combined with the all white people are evil mantra, I can't take these people seriously at all.
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True neutrals should exterminate the left and the right, but true neutrals are too chill to give much of a gently caress about anything and thus get steamrolled by their own apathy.
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Radical Islam is objectively way worse than most other organized religions ever were because of the knowledge they willingly ignore.
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Islam is a scourge upon the earth, and if Jesus does not strike them with his sword soon, we as Christians should take it upon ourselves to carry out his will, soon.
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Liberals are killing themselves by terrorizing our streets (again) today.
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Zeroisanumber posted:It's a great place to live if you want to die like a dog and be crucified by maniacs. But enough about the US
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Brutally ripping babies to pieces before they are even born is not ok.
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Jan 21, 2017 03:00
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We need to get that got danged fair tax enacted asap.
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My dad is a very conservative guy. He recycles every recyclable the city will take because it gives him a free second trash day.
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There is nothing wrong with our military spending as it allows us to be a world super power and a leading force for good in the world.
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Castle doctrine should be a god given right, and should extend the globe!
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Lime Tonics posted:Castle doctrine should be a god given right, and should extend the globe! Similarly stand your ground laws prevent muggings and make for a more polite society.
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All great empires are built on the backs of slaves. Actual slaves or paid slave wages, it doesn't matter. That said, the world would be better if people just shut up, knew their places, consumed, died, and were forgotten. The only things that trees are good for are making consumer goods and shading my car as I park on the tarmac of the once great Amazon rainforest while I buy another set of 10 dollar plastic bowls made by child slave labor in China.
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Pick posted:No one has been able to explain to me, liberal or conservative, how illegal immigration ultimately helps citizens in lower economic tiers. In any country, particularly those with two clearly delineated "sides", which party favors immigration is the one that the plurality of immigrants subscribe to. The american left would change its tune real quick if immigrants who were inclined to vote republican started coming here.
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luv 2 date boys posted:guns are cool And good.
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why are all the jew threads in Race Space instead of Coupons
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The Israel Palestine issue really isn't that important. This is a Not Liberal viewpoint I suppose
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Israel should stop pussyfooting around and just put all the palestines into camps already. They would be safer in there and not die from throwing rocks at tanks.
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The US education system is a nightmare on every level, from county level to state level back up the federal level all loving with each other and making sure nothing ever gets fixed. I think we should throw it all out and just make people watch Star Trek - The Original Series instead. It will save on textbook money and there's some cool poo poo in there man. Next week's lesson is on Errand of Mercy and the benefits/drawbacks of interventionist policy.
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Abolish all schools and give their budget to the local minister. Kids gotta learn about god and godliness in the community before they can do anything worthwhile anyway.
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Reading Jonathan Haidt's book "The Righteous Mind" was really good in terms of considering conservative positions as "positions I disagree with, which may come from a different moral perspective" instead of "work of evil, manipulated idiots" (which was me until about late 2012). The bad part of this is I might've gotten too good at it and find I can't quite jump on board the latest big DEMOCRATIC OUTRAGE as easily anymore - it also led me to be more suspicious of the media and clickbait spheres, and how you can prey on liberal readers' bias the same way Fox News et al does it to conservatives. Also: I hate both the left and the right on Islam, currently. The right sees the legitimate issues of global Islamism and responds by casting wide nets about banning the religion, and seemingly having no problem letting their political leaders score cheap political points by demagoguing. I'm terrified at what Trump can do, especially with the power of his office. On the other hand, I do think Islamism actually is a real thing that's worth discussing, Obama's "treat it like the mob" strategy got rhetorically blown up by ISIS, Sam Harris isn't a bigot because of a philosophical paper on torture and a dumb statement from 9 years ago, and Maajid Nawaz being on the SPLC "anti-Muslim extremist" list is just insanity. We need some kind of new center here. I'm tempted to toss in trigger warnings/safe spaces, but I feel like backlash to that outpaced actual proponents awhile ago.
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The Landstander posted:Reading Jonathan Haidt's book "The Righteous Mind" was really good in terms of considering conservative positions as "positions I disagree with, which may come from a different moral perspective" instead of "work of evil, manipulated idiots" (which was me until about late 2012). The bad part of this is I might've gotten too good at it and find I can't quite jump on board the latest big DEMOCRATIC OUTRAGE as easily anymore - it also led me to be more suspicious of the media and clickbait spheres, and how you can prey on liberal readers' bias the same way Fox News et al does it to conservatives. This is a good post and pretty much where I'm at. Left-leaning media doesn't strike me as any less bankrupt than conservative media any more, even while I agree with many of the conclusions drawn. It'd be cool if there were a way to criticize Islamism as a political force without trying to demonize Muslim people, the same way I'm happy to denounce the christian religious right, but I don't care enough to be the one to thread that needle in GBS of all places. I kinda like trigger warnings. Tagging one's writing by content is good and should be encouraged, whatever the intent is. It shouldn't just be negative things, tag stuff so that people can find stuff they like more easily in addition to avoiding stuff they don't and everyone wins. Safe spaces seem harmless to me even if I don't think GBS ought to be one, but I don't like that tolerance of their existence is divided along political lines - conservative spaces do in fact have a right to exist. Personally I'm much more inclined to criticize groups I mostly agree with, like the left, rather than ones I know I don't. Bad faith nonsense burns me a lot more when it's coming from folks whose conclusions I advocate for. Bad arguments for good policy are more harmful to any left movement than conservatives being allowed to exist.
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I think the old people that have lived a life outside of myspace and MMO's that are maybe a bit backwards thinking in race a social issues due to their isolated upbringing are more educated and better to talk to than persnickety millennial men in dresses that call me a racist homophobe for disagreeing
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:This is a good post and pretty much where I'm at. Left-leaning media doesn't strike me as any less bankrupt than conservative media any more, even while I agree with many of the conclusions drawn. It'd be cool if there were a way to criticize Islamism as a political force without trying to demonize Muslim people, the same way I'm happy to denounce the christian religious right, but I don't care enough to be the one to thread that needle in GBS of all places. But talk of making TWs mandatory, or just "expected" in a college environment, seems really wrongheaded given how personalized "triggers" can be, and how that can impact covering controversial material. The fact I could never find a trauma expert to actually think they were a good idea also threw me off. "Safe space" can also be expanded to where an entire college is a "safe space", and therefore controversial topic/speaker X can't come around because Unsafe. That's well beyond the initial definition above. I also think some people jump back and forth between definitions in a cynical, motte-and-bailey kind of way. That's more my problem. The amount of bandwidth spent discussing this over the past few years is admittedly disproportionate to how much of a problem this is, but I stand by my position. aww lookit the little guy 
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Only a weak minded person would want "trigger warnings". They should not be in academia to begin with.
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