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Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011
I will miss stabbing people in the stomach, then slashing their throats with chili covered knives that light them on fire, after which they apologize and give me a plate made of iron


and that twirly thing they always did with their arm

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Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011
Ok realtalk: is there any other series in videogames that goes into all the heavy poo poo this one does? Like I got to the point where whoremonger helps a victim of buman trafficking and its just like, in this game alone we've dealt with sexual violence in the idol industry, sexual slavery and other poo poo

The only one I can even vaguely remember was Watch Dogs, which had you murdering traffickers and Saints Row where you were one

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011

Stelas posted:

Holy poo poo, I think the latest patch just enabled item stacking for the first time ever.
HOLY SMOKES

You mean they've finally entered the 21st century?? Here I thought them having equipment and inventory items separate was amaze

drat, they already got rid of so much jank its gonna be hellish replaying the other games

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011
The real estate stuff is giving me serious AssCreed 2 vibes. I wonder if it served as inspiration at all.

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011

Stelas posted:

It's a very common scale in Japanese stuff (I'm also 99% sure that it's stated in the help files for the minigame)
It is, in fact, not.

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011

Samurai Sanders posted:

I assume you were talking about whether it was in the manual, but yeah the circle triangle x meaning best ok bad thing is just part of the background here and I need to explain to my students that it may not be obvious to foreigners.
No yeah, it was that because me and my bro had to stop the game, connect to the internet and google around.

Kinda weird tbh, that something at that good a level of translation missed a thing like that.

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011
The Catfights are as cringeworthy and bad as the rest of the game is good. It's amazing how it manages to be random, boring, difficult and otaku as gently caress, all in one.

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011
Too bad about the content in most of them brother

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011

KingShiro posted:

Oh wow the type of shirt I was saying Sega should put out is actually a thing

https://www.etsy.com/listing/498417...f=sr_gallery_10
Too bad it's the most useless type of clothing in the world, the long sleeve shirt

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011
I have played every single Yakuza game that came out in the West since Yakuza 3.

Kiwamis first boss fight against chrome dome is the absolute shittiest fight I have had in any and all of them. The boss fights in loving Dead Souls were better. It was complete and utter loving garbage. All of the different styles doing chip damage, 4 environmental weapons that break in 3 hits each with him doing fuckloads of damage with his attacks.

And when I try to actually do the ~kiwami bullshit, it doesn't work. Was I suppose to go the opposite colour from his? Or what? Do something other than press triangle? Because going into rush and pressing triangle did gently caress all, while it let him regenerate more of his bullshit health that took way too long to remove in a boring, lovely fight while he entered heat. Yakuza 3 literally had you had to button tap in these situations to avoid this stupid loving bullshit! Why the gently caress would you bring in a new, inferior mechanic when you figured out how to do this right almost ten loving years ago?

I don't know if I was just spoilt by how good the fighting was in Zero, but this was absolute loving trash. There wasn't even any way to grind before the fight even, because everything was closed beforehand and it was at the end of a long, not entirely bad but still not great section.

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011

exploded mummy posted:

You need to match color and then use a heat action



Oh by the way the heat action needs to be bought first

ARE YOU loving JOKING ME

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011
I ended up doing the old "get into critical, wait for your heat to rise, repeatedly use the knife heat action" thing, which is pretty much the absolute most poo poo and boring way to win a fight in the game but gently caress, it's better than trying to do it legit using loving chip damage and the stabs got him outta the charge thing

I don't even think I have any loving heat actions for rush

how the gently caress did they mess this up so much???

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011
hello i am mr game making man who has been part of making like, 7 loving yakuza games and this poinst and so am not a loving idiot; I am going to make the first real KIWAMI action, the titular action of the loving game i made, be something you automatically get after the majima fight for the dragon style just before this fight because I'm not loving retarded

oh no wait whoops im not

Sakurazuka posted:

At least you have the worst part of the game over with now
I seriously just quit after saving because of that part

Holy poo poo, it is terrible. Like, the very first boss fight I had was against Hebi-Man at the café in 3 and I had my poo poo kicked in but at least after I learned to slam energy drinks and get a bit gud that was way easier (and use the objects around me)

there is like, zero loving excuse for that fight to be that bad. Like, none

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011

Poops Mcgoots posted:

The excuse is they wanted to have a mechanic for dramatic finishes for boss fights that's more interactive than Feel the Heat. The problem is that they introduced it into a remake of the first game where it's basically totally linear for the opening of the game. That fight is pretty bad, but maybe you should also have a cookie and take a nap or something.
I've actually kinda gotten over the anger at this point but it's still such a stupid thing to do because, again, it would have been entirely avoided if it was
1) explained more clearly
2) if they'd have you gotten it like I pointed out, via Majima earlier

Night Blade posted:

I haven't loaded up the game in a week because of that fight.
I mean, I have a buncha other games I can play for now, but I'm gonna go back to it eventually.

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011

Sakurazuka posted:

Shimano is a bad boss fight but it's nowhere near as bad is Saejima vs prison guard dude when you have no items or skills, or the final boss fight against a bunch of SWAT dudes and the chief of police in 4.
Hahaha, oh man, I'd completely forgotten baton man when Saejima plays so completely different from the others (though by the end of 5 he was absolutely my favourite dude) but the same poo poo was the problem for that; no slack


also its a bit embarrassing but the only yakuza game I've finished is 3. Somehow, there's always another new game or I get stuck trying to 100% poo poo and then lose patience (oh gooodddss, that loving hostess game, the sewer in dead souls or the loving sports things in 5)

0 had me stop at my inability to beat the dude at Outrun, which in a way was a drat shame because I was really liking it

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011

RandallODim posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RV9RrdIUpTI

I remembered this video today so here's your occasional reminder that it's a travesty that Haruka doesn't get a chance to be like Uncle Kaz.
I think we had a, poo poo was he Zainichi or just a Hapa? Copguy in 4? but not a woman

But that's an old talk here. Haruka anyway is an avowed pacifist for some dang ole reason so she'd never do it

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011

atholbrose posted:

Brother, Saejima's brother part of Yakuza 5 is... Brotherly. In multiple brother ways.
I agree, brother.

Now let's go shoot animals and beat up bears!

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011

atholbrose posted:

Oh, brother, how many animals I shot, trapped or punched. How many loops up and down the mountain I took. How many times I sent things to the item box one by one.

I really love these games, but I'm not a completionist; I never play Premium Adventure mode, I don't try and get clown rewards, but this... this I finished completely before moving on. It was amazingly fun. I pretty much forgot how to fight groups of guys after playing this for so long -- half my playtime so far!
We are brothers in truth, because drat if I didn't love that part. And marvel, at how they still haven't learned proper UI poo poo!

Deified Data posted:

That's pretty much exactly it, yes.

Though it's less "he got added depth as the series went on" (he got a little) and more "he became an ensemble darkhorse as the series went on". I love 0 and Majima in 0 but even I thought his transformation was forced.
I thought it showed fairly well that he was always insane, just in a different way.

That intro :allears:

Though I think his worst retcon was probably when they introduced Saejima, but uhhh, that had a whole heap of other problems with it....

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011
Akiyamas miracle loan agency would be a great set up for a game tbh

Also, I wanna have a geriatric Kiryu game, where I fight with strollers and you save at toilets and the healing items are prunes and viagra

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011
i wish that when ya went into fps mode as Majima half the screen was black

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011

Sakurazuka posted:

Tried Dead Souls recently and never made it past the tutorial, I hope whoever came up with that control scheme never works on a videogame again.

It really is amazing. You hear that the Japanese don't really have a lot of shooting games but good god.

And not being able to remap poo poo was the cherry on top.

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011
That loving sewer broke me permanently. Trying to go through with Kiryu and his poo poo tastic sniper rifle, ugghhhhh.

I don't think I've finished a Yakuza game properly since.

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011
I swear, if there was an island based Yakuza spin-off with survival elements and taking care of orphans it would be the best.

God I loved those lil idiots. And the hunting in, was it 6? Healing with moss, hunting animals, fishing, beachcombing ahh, that would be the life.

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011
It's really sad that even when 6 made the food way, way more important, they didn't include those weird, detailed descriptions that they used to have for the booze but don't anymore.

Man, I loving miss those. Why did they take them out? I loved them!

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011

Ytlaya posted:

So I'm playing Shinada's chapter in Yakuza 5, and this one subquest involves giving an endorsement speech for this shithead politician who wants to lower taxes for the rich (with the typical conservative rationale of "to prevent rich people from taking their business abroad") and increase government child support by increasing taxes on single people. gently caress this guy! I'm tempted to gently caress up this speech just to prevent this man from ever having any influence in the government.

edit: Then again, this dude is a small business owner so maybe I shouldn't be that surprised.
The joke is that helping him with his sidequest is just another example of Joes self destructive behaviour

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011

Taintrunner posted:

I’m making an offer... in cash!
You know, most games are power fantasies but holy heck if that one didn't really feel enjoyable in retrospect

Taintrunner posted:

Oh man nobody loving told me the revelations for Saejima in 4 is him busting out a loving log and carving a wood statue of himself doing heat actions on dudes in the middle of the loving street and now I’m training this kid to beat the poo poo out of random underground street fighters and I did that and now I’m training a masked tiger wrestler WHAT IS THIS GAME
Saejima is really the best character in a way, but never in his main story. He gets to run the dojo, hide in sewers and pick garbage, hunt animals, shoot bears, then beat up bears and have snowball fights

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011

MonsterEnvy posted:

So people who would you say your favorite final boss is in the Yakuza series.
3s entire hospital worth of enemies

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011

Taintrunner posted:

The American dude who talked in American and was flipping the gently caress out with dual pistols was so good
3 is my first and only Yakuza game I completely finished and even then BRACKU MONDAY is mostly wiped outta my memories for being incredibly dumb

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011
when are they reintroducing bars going into long lectures on the booze you buy there

this is very important to me

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011
No Hana? Mr "hi i run around like a moron and can't run the Tojo clan" that high?

Truly, the Yakuza series is wasted on the Japanese

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011
Finally getting around to playing the FotNS game after Christmas.

So what's the lowdown? Should I aim to reach a certain chapter before really starting the Sidequest dash? Any specific thing I absolutely have to get? I already heard something about limited yellow orbs?

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011
Yeah, combat is super uneven. I rolled through it and then faced her dad and it was like a brick wall, especially because the fucker kept stealing my heat. And dealing with crowds is a pain because you can't toggle priority so way too often it does the slow, dumb one which takes out two rather than the whole crowd.

Also, the clinic game is worse than the mainstream Yakuza ones, but the baseball is way better.

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011
What I miss the absolute most was the booze plugs where they do detailed descriptions of all of them.

I wish they did that with the food too. Bring back product placement!!!

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011
What the everloving gently caress is going on with the FotNS hostess game?

This is the worst! It's a confusing mess and on such a tight timer! Did they seriously expect me to memorize all the customers and hostesses???

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011
I'm so torn on Lost Paradise. When it's good, it's drat good and some parts really are nice but there so many just, random things thrown in there that don't work, so I don't know what to feel about this game being the last one with the old engine.

And noone thus far did that idiot twirly hand gesture and I keep waiting for it


Finally hit the Mamiya Sidequest too and man, they really hate women fighting or doing anything don't they? What the heck

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011
We may have seen more battling okama than real women lol

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011

Ledgy posted:

Talking about anime and yakuza, check out Gokudols, it's like a 13 episode sidequest
Hard pass

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011

Honest Thief posted:

I'm on the chapter where Rei shows up and so far the worst part is the railroading of a lot of the initial mechanics, typical for yak I guess, but drat it.. do we really need flashback grunt fights to teach us how to block?
Have you had the Sidequest to get the upgrade manual in the Highlands village yet? That's what lets you finally get the poo poo to break through rocks and go over quicksand, because I thought it was story locked like some other stuff but NOPE

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011
There's a level of dumb giving that much attention to the fucker on par with shooting at least 12 people with rubber bullets and going to jail for it

Just ignore the fucker

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Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011
So what exactly is next in line for the Yakuza series?

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