Maybe symbolic vandalism leading to felony charges isn't the way to go

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Jewel Repetition: Dec 24, 2012; Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

Bolton Hairy-Bore posted:

Imagine u lived in a direct democracy. Now 51% vote for some dumb poo poo that hurts yr life. Say they make u drink ur own urine.. Dumb right, u shouldn't have to drink piss.. or like genocide or something. See, the problem with democracy is that it requires a state to enforce its dumb laws. Otherwise there would be nothing making u drink yr own pee, and youd say "no, gently caress off neighbs, im not drinking my own piss unless i want to."

The best ordering of society is called anarchy. There are no power structures in anarchy and it is organized with consensus and autonomy. To create this world, folks need to learn to self-govern, and they also need to abolish all power over others. Rioting is a small, courageous first step to the seemingly insurmountable task of smashing the state (ie no pigs or prisons making u chug yr own piss)

Anarchism is dumb as hell.

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Jewel Repetition: Dec 24, 2012; Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

Maybe this makes me a conservative but I like political systems where I have some recourse if a guy wants to break into my grandma's house and kill her, and ones that allow me to be part of a state that interacts with others diplomatically so someone doesn't roll in and instantly conquer our poo poo putting an end to the ten minutes we were anarchist.

# ¿ Jan 24, 2017 01:37

Jewel Repetition: Dec 24, 2012; Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

Yinlock posted:

lol at the idea that anarchy is some enlightened freedom state that won't just immediately devolve into mad max

smashing limos is good though

Yeah that's the other thing I didn't even mention, if we weren't conquered from outside we'd be conquered from inside by some guy who decides being a warlord would be more fun than being an anarchist.

Anarchism has got to be the single most naive ideology. I mean at least with communism it stay working for a while, even if everybody's miserable.

# ¿ Jan 24, 2017 01:45

Jewel Repetition: Dec 24, 2012; Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

Agnosticnixie posted:

And yet anarchist sections of Spain, in the middle of a war and a virtual embargo, still managed to be functional cities while holding out. Maybe this fin de siecle bullshit isn't human nature but a disease of the capitalist mind?

You mean the extremely short time it was done in the context of a war that it lost? Anarchists have no answers to the most basic questions about how to run a society. It's a joke ideology. The only less plausible idea is ancap.

Agnosticnixie posted:

"But Somalia"

How do you pay an army as a warlord if you don't have the capital to accumulate and are already inherently opposed by more people than you?

The same way they did thousands of years ago?

# ¿ Jan 24, 2017 02:17

Jewel Repetition: Dec 24, 2012; Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

Bolton Hairy-Bore posted:

Even liberals should understand that you can't vote or protest away fascism.

Or maybe they know that and they don't care cuz they'll survive just fine. They'd rather maintain fake moral righteousness in comfort than actually prevent the darkest timeline. You don't gotta take risks, liberals, but you do need to STFU about others' actions and not sell anti-fascists out.

I'm part of a group that would not in fact survive fascism but I still believe in democracy and doing what's right.

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