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Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


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when u think about it Ilsa she-wolf of the SS is a very feminist movie

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Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


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hey remember when bashing the fash was totally counterproductive and we should just have ignored the nazis and they would have gone away on their own lol

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


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Pener Kropoopkin posted:

bashing the fash isn't just counter-productive, it ACCELERATES their takeover

https://twitter.com/android927/status/899768784180957184

The hottest take thread is over there, my man.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe
Besides that, has nobody explained to the libs that the only way the Rote Frontkämpferbund could possibly have accelerated the nazi takeover was if libs were more willing to ally with the nazis than with the left?

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe
Hillary was so competent she thought it was a good idea to assume that her computer simulation was more real than reality.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


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Unless they happen to find one of the plethora of liberals whose scepticism towards nazis is overruled by their desire to believe bad stuff about the left, of course.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


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KomradeX posted:

Why the gently caress is the ADL helping cops bust anti- Nazis? Have these fuckers completely lost their plot?

Liberals hate socialists more than fascists.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


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lancemantis posted:

i'm starting to think that maybe my considerations up to this point that libs having a deep ideological impasse wrt this "free speech" confrontation is giving them too much credit; its probably just shallow tumblr politics

You don't say. Might be preaching to the choir here, but it's pretty drat obvious that anybody who defends the "free speech" of nazis has literally zero idea of the purpose of free speech and is just repeating liberal dogma.

EDIT: And some pretty vulgar liberal dogma at that. I mean, even goddamn Popper knew better.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe
Surely you're not implying that the fash are cowards???

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


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cargo cult posted:

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/01/antifa-charlottesville-violence-fbi-242235

this is their top story replete with pictures of scary antifa and nazis being victimized. we're so hosed

You're no more hosed than you were a week ago. In fact it might even be a good thing that the liberal mask is slipping this hard. Shows where the establishment really stands, and the nazis are ideologically incapable of getting it.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


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Jeb! Repetition posted:

Theft, assault, and intimidation are illegal.

Yeah, and don't them uppity negroes realize that they're trespassing in that diner?

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


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babypolis posted:

lol loving british scum, calling me priviliged when you probably make 10 times what i do

let me know when the nazis are kidnapping and torturing your dad or killing your friends you stupid little first world poo poo who thinks hes seen some real poo poo because he got in a scuffle with nazi punks at a show

Actually North Korea exists so it is in fact you who is the privileged one, buddy.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


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Vincent Van Goatse posted:

people are saying we're left-wing thugs instead of nazi fighters, let's randomly break things and cause property damage, that'll show em!

:leftydowns:

Are you seriously so new at this that you don't realize people will say that anyway? Like, do you think liberals are actually more committed to truth than ideology lol

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


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Zeroisanumber posted:

My dude, you're making the mistake of thinking that liberalism is an organized ideology.

I don't recall accusing it of being organized.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe
I don't think I can clap for Jeb! on this one, no.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


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Pener Kropoopkin posted:

I like how often libs throw around "authoritarian" with left wing politics, as if there's some kind of libertarian stance on ethnic cleansing.

I thought that the libertarian stance is that ethnic cleansing is all good as long as it's against them injuns and other untermenschen who don't know how to properly mix their labour with the soil or something?

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe
loving antifa who don't just stand aside and let a buncha nazi thugs stomp all over people.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


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Al! posted:

actually after all this liberal disapproval in blogs and editorial sections it sounds like antifa is planning on packing it in

Yeah, after losing the critical liberal moral high ground there's just no way anybody could continue.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


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Jeb! Repetition posted:

Did you know we have police to stop that?

No, because we don't.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe
Like, how loving petty bourg do you have to be that interacting with US police under any circumstances whatsoever seems like a totally good and safe idea to you?

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


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Jeb! Repetition posted:

I'm poor as hell yet I've somehow interacted with police I don't know dozens of times without getting shot.

Checks out given your apparent level of intelligence.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe
I demand mandatory HD footage of the fash being humiliated and a medal for the comrades who manage to make a nazi blubber on film.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/25/us/charlottesville-protest-police.html?mcubz=0

Brave boys in blue, protecting people fron the nazis.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe
Why don't them antifa just sit back and let nazis brutalize people until we've figured out police reform???
:goonsay:

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe
Yeah, why don't them antifa sit back and let nazis brutalize people, haven't they thought of the optics?

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


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Jeb! Repetition posted:

If they actually protected someone from a nazi, ever, that would own.

https://www.democracynow.org/2017/8/14/cornel_west_rev_toni_blackmon_clergy

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2017/08/what_the_alt_left_was_actually_doing_in_charlottesville.html

Pretty hosed up that black and jewish people don't count as people to you.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


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Jeb can you explain why PoC and Jews don't count as people to you?

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


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Jeb! Repetition posted:

Alright, they actually did something good for once.

Jeb can you expound a bit on why black and jewish clergymembers shouldn't be considered people?

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


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Jeb! Repetition posted:

gently caress off with this disingenuous BS.

Nah man, since it clearly is impossible that you would argue for pages and pages from a position of complete and utter ignorance, we are regrettably forced to conclude that you don't consider these black and jewish clergymembers as people. All I'm wondering is why this is. Just a short explanation is fine.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe
Noice, send the scum packing.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe
Though the most important question remains: Are all the windows safe?

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe
Hell, if the nazis want to go back to whining on the internet and doing dumb photoops I'll take it.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


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Turns out that actual logic is hard and needs a lot of work to understaand it, and nazis are dumb and lazy.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

Though I said this is GBS, I can't get on board with the meme-ing and the orgy of celebration that happens after a Nazi gets punched. IMO it's like kicking someone when they're already down. It's like pissing on a corpse. You punch a Nazi when they're on their feet and intend (by being a Nazi) to do you harm. But once they're on the ground I try to resist taking pleasure in their further humiliation. That's just me.

Actually humiliating nazis is Cool and Good because it punctures their self-image as badass warriors fighting against the judeobolshevik menace something fierce. So basically if you hypothetically happen to punch out a nazi it would be even more effective to also piss on his face.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

for me it's more a "rules of war" thing. even when we were killing nazis by the bushel there were some rules (unevenly enforced) about the fate of prisoners, wounded soldiers, sympathizers, etc.

sure. it's violence as a means to an end. so for me, the question is whether adding on these humiliations furthers that goal, or whether it starts confusing ends and means.

Rules of war only apply if both sides respect them, and if you want to see how much nazis actually respect rules of war, take a cursory glance at the Eastern Front.

And the humiliation furthers the goal of neutering the nazi movement, yes.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


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StashAugustine posted:

basic rules of war like, say, "dont massacre civilians" still apply even if the other side refuses to respect them

not saying punching nazis is near that level but lets not get carried away here

Well, I was speaking in the context of treatment of enemy soldiers, in which case reprisal actions are permissible if the other side breaches the laws of war first. And since nazis marching on the streets are not some kind of innocent bystanders in any way, any comparison to laws of war prohibiting attacks on civilians becomes absurd.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe
lol how loving dumb do you have to be to think that the whole liberal both sides-ism is in any way linked to what antifa actually do?

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


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Jeb! Repetition posted:

Well antifa do, in actuality, proudly commit acts of violence.

Cerebral Bore posted:

lol how loving dumb do you have to be to think that the whole liberal both sides-ism is in any way linked to what antifa actually do?

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe
I think Jeb is just doing that liberal thing where they excuse personally doing nothing whatsoever to stop the nazis with the idea that trying to stop the nazis somehow actually helps the nazis.

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Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


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Nah, it's just the desperate scrambling of a liberal who suspects that he's not actually on the moral high ground on this one.

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