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Best Picture Arrival Fences Hacksaw Ridge Hell or High Water Hidden Figures La La Land* (PARTICIPATION AWARD) Lion Manchester by the Sea Moonlight* (YOUR WINNER AND NEEEWWWW BEST PICTURE) Lead Actor Casey Affleck, Manchester by the Sea* Andrew Garfield, Hacksaw Ridge Ryan Gosling, La La Land* Viggo Mortensen, Captain Fantastic Denzel Washington, Fences Lead Actress Isabelle Huppert, Elle* Ruth Negga, Loving Natalie Portman, Jackie Emma Stone, La La Land* Meryl Streep, Florence Foster Jenkins Supporting Actor Mahershala Ali, Moonlight Jeff Bridges, Hell or High Water Lucas Hedges, Manchester by the Sea Dev Patel, Lion Michael Shannon, Nocturnal Animals Supporting Actress Viola Davis, Fences* Naomie Harris, Moonlight Nicole Kidman, Lion Octavia Spencer, Hidden Figures Michelle Williams, Manchester by the Sea Best Director Damien Chazelle, La La Land* Mel Gibson, Hacksaw Ridge Barry Jenkins, Moonlight Kenneth Lonergan, Manchester by the Sea Denis Villeneuve, Arrival Animated Feature Kubo and the Two Strings, Travis Knight and Arianne Sutner Moana, John Musker, Ron Clements and Osnat Shurer My Life as a Zucchini, Claude Barras and Max Karli The Red Turtle, Michael Dudok de Wit and Toshio Suzuki Zootopia, Byron Howard, Rich Moore and Clark Spencer* Animated Short Blind Vaysha, Theodore Ushev Borrowed Time, Andrew Coats and Lou Hamou-Lhadj Pear Cider and Cigarettes, Robert Valley and Cara Speller Pearl, Patrick Osborne Piper, Alan Barillaro and Marc Sondheimer Adapted Screenplay Eric Heisserer, Arrival Fences, August Wilson, Fences Allison Schroeder and Theodore Melfi, Hidden Figures Luke Davies, Lion Barry Jenkins; Story by Tarell Alvin McCraney, Moonlight Original Screenplay Mike Mills, Twentieth Century Women Taylor Sheridan, Hell or High Water Damien Chazelle, La La Land* Yorgos Lanthimos, Efthimis Filippou, The Lobster Kenneth Lonergan, Manchester by the Sea Cinematography Bradford Young, Arrival Linus Sandgren, La La Land Greig Fraser, Lion James Laxton, Moonlight Rodrigo Prieto, Silence Best Documentary Feature 13th, Ava DuVernay, Spencer Averick and Howard Barish Fire at Sea, Gianfranco Rosi and Donatella Palermo I Am Not Your Negro, Raoul Peck, Remi Grellety and Hebert Peck Life, Animated, Roger Ross Williams and Julie Goldman O.J.: Made in America, Ezra Edelman and Caroline Waterlow Best Documentary, Short Subject 4.1 Miles, Daphne Matziaraki Extremis, Dan Krauss Joe’s Violin, Kahane Cooperman and Raphaela Neihausen Watani: My Homeland, Marcel Mettelsiefen and Stephen Ellis The White Helmets, Orlando von Einsiedel and Joanna Natasegara Best Live Action Short Film Ennemis Interieurs, Selim Azzazi La Femme et le TGV, Timo von Gunten and Giacun Caduff Silent Nights, Aske Bang and Kim Magnusson Sing, Kristof Deak and Anna Udvardy Timecode, Juanjo Gimenez Best Foreign Language Film A Man Called Ove, Sweden Land of Mine, Denmark Tanna, Australia The Salesman, Iran Toni Erdmann, Germany Film Editing Joe Walker, Arrival John Gilbert, Hacksaw Ridge Jake Roberts, Hell or High Water Tom Cross, La La Land Nat Sanders and Joi McMillon, Moonlight Sound Editing Sylvain Bellemare, Arrival Wylie Stateman and Renee Tondelli, Deep Water Horizon Robert Mackenzie and Andy Wright, Hacksaw Ridge Ai-Ling Lee and Mildred Iatrou Morgan, La La Land Alan Robert Murray and Bub Asman, Sully Sound Mixing Bernard Gariepy Strobl and Claude La Haye, Arrival Kevin O’Connell, Andy Wright, Robert Mackenzie and Peter Grace, Hacksaw Ridge Andy Nelson, Ai-Ling Lee and Steve A. Morrow, La La Land David Parker, Christopher Scarabosio and Stuart Wilson, Rogue One: A Star Wars Story Production Design Patrice Vermette, Paul Hotte, Arrival Stuart Craig, Anna Pinnock, Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them Jess Gonchor, Nancy Haigh, Hail, Caesar! David Wasco, Sandy Reynolds-Wasco, La La Land Guy Hendrix Dyas, Gene Serdena, Passengers Original Score Mica Levi, Jackie Justin Hurwitz, La La Land* Dustin O’Halloran and Hauschka, Lion Nicholas Britell, Moonlight Thomas Newman, Passengers Original Song Audition (The Fools Who Dream), La La Land — Music by Justin Hurwitz; Lyric by Benj Pasek and Justin Paul Can’t Stop the Feeling, Trolls — Music and Lyric by Justin Timberlake, Max Martin and Karl Johan Schuster City of Stars, La La Land — Music by Justin Hurwitz; Lyric by Benj Pasek and Justin Paul* The Empty Chair, Jim: The James Foley Story — Music and Lyric by J. Ralph and Sting How Far I’ll Go, Moana — Music and Lyric by Lin-Manuel Miranda Makeup and Hair Eva von Bahr and Love Larson, A Man Called Ove Joel Harlow and Richard Alonzo, Star Trek Beyond Alessandro Bertolazzi, Giorgio Gregorini and Christopher Nelson, Suicide Squad Costume Design Joanna Johnston, Allied Colleen Atwood, Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them Consolata Boyle, Florence Foster Jenkins Madeline Fontaine, Jackie Mary Zophres, La La Land Visual Effects Craig Hammack, Jason Snell, Jason Billington and Burt Dalton, Deepwater Horizon Stephane Ceretti, Richard Bluff, Vincent Cirelli and Paul Corbould, Doctor Strange Robert Legato, Adam Valdez, Andrew R. Jones and Dan Lemmon, The Jungle Book Steve Emerson, Oliver Jones, Brian McLean and Brad Schiff, Kubo and the Two Strings John Knoll, Mohen Leo, Hal Hickel and Neil Corbould, Rogue One: A Star Wars Story Notable Controversies/Stories/Snubs -Six black actors and five black directors this time -No nomination for Amy Adams -Mel Gibson nominated Name Change fucked around with this message at 06:25 on Feb 27, 2017 |
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I will just say, with the caveat that I have hardly seen everything nominated, that I am rather tired of Hollywood showering the most awards on movies about Hollywood and acting. At a certain point it's like, get over yourselves.
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Jan 24, 2017 21:58
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Prefer this list for nominees for original music: http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2017/01/24/birth.movies.death.-alternate-oscars-best-score-and-song
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Jan 24, 2017 22:40
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Did anyone actually see Captain Fantastic? I remember seeing a trailer that uh, didn't look good
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Jan 24, 2017 22:40
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dont even fink about it posted:I will just say, with the caveat that I have hardly seen everything nominated, that I am rather tired of Hollywood showering the most awards on movies about Hollywood and acting. At a certain point it's like, get over yourselves. Given the Oscars is just a huge Hollywood circle jerk it's hardly surprising these kind of films always do well
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Jan 24, 2017 22:53
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I haven't seen Hacksaw Ridge, but Andrew Garfield must have been really loving good it in given how great he was in Silence.
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Jan 24, 2017 23:04
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Spatulater bro! posted:I haven't seen Hacksaw Ridge, but Andrew Garfield must have been really loving good it in given how great he was in Silence. I mean presumably in Hacksaw Ridge he doesn't have to try and convince you that he's Portuguese.
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Jan 24, 2017 23:06
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Hat Thoughts posted:Did anyone actually see Captain Fantastic? I remember seeing a trailer that uh, didn't look good Yeah, it was amazing. It suffered from a lack of clear advertising, subject matter that doesn't fit well into a trailer, and a terrible title, but the film is great. I'm at 23/46 for nominated films this year, 24/61 if you count shorts... looks like I've got catching up to do. Why the hell no Amy Adams? Meryl Streep is great and FFJ was good, but a self-indulgent movie about a self-indulgent woma... oh wait I get it now, Oscars.
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Jan 24, 2017 23:17
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:I mean presumably in Hacksaw Ridge he doesn't have to try and convince you that he's Portuguese. Eh, not the world's best accent but it sure didn't take away from his performance.
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Jan 24, 2017 23:31
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Really loving bizarre that they show so much love for Arrival but nothing for Amy Adams.
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Jan 24, 2017 23:47
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muscles like this! posted:Really loving bizarre that they show so much love for Arrival but nothing for Amy Adams. Wish they shook things up a bit more, but this is about right for a traditionalist Academy. More black people than you'd expect from the Oscars, but white people were pretty poo poo this year.
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Vegetable posted:white people were pretty poo poo this year. Tell us something we don't know
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Jan 25, 2017 00:31
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I am baffled by Hacksaw getting nominated for anything. I saw parts of it at my job and it seemed a thoroughly mediocre war movie.Uncle Boogeyman posted:I mean presumably in Hacksaw Ridge he doesn't have to try and convince you that he's Portuguese. He is trying to convince he is a southerner in Hacksaw.
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Jan 25, 2017 02:20
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My three biggest disappointments are Amy Adams as stated, Johan Johansson not being up for score, and Drive It Like You Stole It not being up for song. There's nothing too terribly egregious otherwise other than some personal preference stuff like Neon Demon not being up for production design.
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Jan 25, 2017 02:27
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All in all I'm glad with the nominees this year. The only disappointment for me is that The Innocents didn't get a single nod. It was not only the best film all year, but is one of the best I've ever seen. Is it because it seems too similar to Ida to the Academy?
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Jan 25, 2017 03:36
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Saw this thread, saw the nominee list, have a question: why is hell or high water so critically acclaimed? All I saw was a boring, formulaic heist type movie where nothing much interesting happened populated by uninteresting characters and also jeff bridges.
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Jan 25, 2017 05:39
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Ovo posted:I am baffled by Hacksaw getting nominated for anything. I saw parts of it at my job and it seemed a thoroughly mediocre war movie. Hacksaw is ok. But Holllywood loves a comeback story with Mel.
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Jan 25, 2017 05:45
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Moonlight was the best film I saw this year. It probably won't win anything. The score to that movie is goddamn amazing.
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Jan 25, 2017 08:32
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Mu Zeta posted:Hacksaw is ok. But Holllywood loves a comeback story with Mel. It's kind of a manufactured comeback, since they're the ones who blacklisted him.
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Jan 25, 2017 08:55
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:Moonlight was the best film I saw this year. It probably won't win anything. It will get a pity award like adapted screenplay even though it wasn't adapted from anything. If La La Land sweeps then the #oscarssowhite thing will resurface and they don't want that.
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Jan 25, 2017 14:27
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Mu Zeta posted:It will get a pity award like adapted screenplay even though it wasn't adapted from anything. If La La Land sweeps then the #oscarssowhite thing will resurface and they don't want that. Mahershala Ali is likely going to win supporting actor. He's been cleaning up everywhere except the Globes, and the winner there isn't nominated here. It should be a lock for adapted screenplay. La La Land being nominated for everything makes me worry about its chances for directing and picture. The more I look at it, the more I'm disappointed Trevante Rhodes was left off. He certainly puts in a better performance than Dev Patel (who's borderline a lead actor anyway).
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Jan 25, 2017 14:41
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Slavvy posted:Saw this thread, saw the nominee list, have a question: why is hell or high water so critically acclaimed? All I saw was a boring, formulaic heist type movie where nothing much interesting happened populated by uninteresting characters and also jeff bridges. The weakest films this year are probably Lion and Hacksaw Ridge. Haven't seen Hidden Figures or Fences, but they might be the weaker films of the pack too. This year, I would have liked the inclusion of Indignation. Haven't seen Jackie, Certain Women, Loving or Paterson, but those might all have warranted a nod. If there ever was a year, this should have been the one for including a different sort of film. The Handmaiden is heads and shoulders above most of the nominees. Funniest movie of the year Hunt for the Wilderpeople got shamefully overlooked even at the Globes (at least the HFPA had the guts to nominate Sing Street there). Toni Erdmann was an absolute favorite of the critics (still need to see it).
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Jan 25, 2017 14:44
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Mu Zeta posted:It will get a pity award like adapted screenplay even though it wasn't adapted from anything. If La La Land sweeps then the #oscarssowhite thing will resurface and they don't want that. Iirc it was adapted from an unproduced stage play or something like that
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Jan 25, 2017 14:58
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Slavvy posted:Saw this thread, saw the nominee list, have a question: why is hell or high water so critically acclaimed? All I saw was a boring, formulaic heist type movie where nothing much interesting happened populated by uninteresting characters and also jeff bridges. It wouldn't be so critically acclaimed if not for the presence of Bridges, I don't think there's any argument there. But Bridges gives a great performance, and when you throw in another really solid performance by Foster and some really excellent cinematography you're in Oscar territory. Cinematography is a big thing with the Oscars. If you pair great cinematography with a great performance that's probably the best Oscar formula you can have.
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Vegetable posted:I liked it. It was engaging all the way through. That's what most of the folks thought too. Hardly groundbreaking stuff, but the Oscars hardly reward that kind of thing (how in the fuckbucket did Carol fail to be nominated for Best Picture or Best Directing last year?) I saw a lot of foreign films this year so it was lovely to see only two of them end up with nominations (The Salesman and Toni Erdmann, three if you count best actress for Elle which deserves to win) and yeah the Handmaiden is up there too but ultimately I would give it to Toni Erdmann anyway. Just a very likeable movie that never wastes its 3 hours and manages its characters very deftly without making them caricatures or overly sentimental which a Hollywood remake would most certainly do. Builds up to an absurd comedy setpiece which would also be the hardest I've laughed at any movie this year if I hadn't also seen The Greasy Strangler. (edit: there's a scene about halfway through that got spontaneous applause at Cannes and at my screening. I never clap at movies unless someone from the movie is there but I will say that it deserved it) I also saw Moonlight back in September and was kind of surprised to see how big it got, I thought it was solid but found the third act kind of underwhelming. Hunt for the Wilderpeople and Paterson I think are both the kind of gentle comedies that don't get enough attention for any awards. I'd also throw Swiss Army Man in there too. The two best movies I saw this year that are getting zero recognition anywhere are American Honey and the much more divisive Personal Shopper. More nods for Silence would have been nice too but ultimately I'm not surprised. Cacator fucked around with this message at 15:42 on Jan 25, 2017 |
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Jan 25, 2017 15:29
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Cacator posted:I also saw Moonlight back in September and was kind of surprised to see how big it got, I thought it was solid but found the third act kind of underwhelming.
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Jan 25, 2017 15:32
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Seriously, the only reason why Sing Street isn't on the list and La La Land is because its about Hollywood / has big stars. Its a loving travesty. Also the guy behind Drive and Neon Bible's soundtracks never being recognized for poo poo. EDIT: At this point Meryl Streep is stopping the recognition of younger stars.
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La La land i can understand but the music in Trolls is dreadful. I prefer Riddle of the Model over all those nominees. Mu Zeta fucked around with this message at 16:01 on Jan 25, 2017 |
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Jan 25, 2017 15:51
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Vegetable posted:I liked it. It was engaging all the way through. That's what most of the folks thought too. Hardly groundbreaking stuff, but the Oscars hardly reward that kind of thing (how in the fuckbucket did Carol fail to be nominated for Best Picture or Best Directing last year?) This is exactly what I was thinking. Yeah, people snub those types of love stories unless the characters suffer or die. Shageletic posted:
Also Johan Johannsen.
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aware of dog posted:Iirc it was adapted from an unproduced stage play or something like that Yeah. It's in the right category. I feel like La La Land is the favorite, but it could end up having the 12 Years a Slave "we don't want to look racist" effect. Never forget: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/05/oscar-voters-12-years-a-slave_n_4904132.html
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:This is exactly what I was thinking. Yeah, people snub those types of love stories unless the characters suffer or die. Isn't that what good acting is?!??! Also someone pretending to be an oppressed minority, while suffering/dying
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Jan 25, 2017 17:03
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TrixRabbi posted:I feel like La La Land is the favorite, but it could end up having the 12 Years a Slave "we don't want to look racist" effect.
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I'm really behind on my big Oscar movies this year it seems- of the BP nominees I've only seen two- Arrival and Hell or High Water. The latter of those I didn't even see until after the nominees were announced. I would have liked to see Silence get a BP nom but alas.
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I'm really confused by all the praise I've seen from Hacksaw Ridge and to now see it has 6 Oscar nominations. I generally enjoy watching almost everything I see, and I've enjoyed Mel's other films but I just found this one to be utter trash. To me, Hugo Weaving was the only good part of that film. Kind of a weak year in general I guess for the Oscars.
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:This is exactly what I was thinking. Yeah, people snub those types of love stories unless the characters suffer or die. There's sound mixing I guess but that doesn't qualify, right? The music on Arrival was perfect and unique.
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Shageletic posted:There's sound mixing I guess but that doesn't qualify, right? The music on Arrival was perfect and unique. I saw an article saying Arrival was disqualified for some bullshit reason about its use of a classical piece that stupid audience members would think was part of the original score.
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Obstacle2 posted:I'm really confused by all the praise I've seen from Hacksaw Ridge and to now see it has 6 Oscar nominations. I've been getting the feeling that Hollywood has wanted to "officially" bring Gibson back into the fold for a while now, this is just the first real opportunity they've had. He hasn't directed anything since Apocalypto.
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Jan 26, 2017 17:07
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Cacator posted:I saw an article saying Arrival was disqualified for some bullshit reason about its use of a classical piece that stupid audience members would think was part of the original score. The soundtrack rules have been kind of bizarre for a while.
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Jan 27, 2017 00:53
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Cacator posted:I saw an article saying Arrival was disqualified for some bullshit reason about its use of a classical piece that stupid audience members would think was part of the original score. To be fair, that piece is used at the beginning and the end. So when you remember music from the film, you remember that first. It's still not fair, but it makes sense with their current rules. anyway, of the films nominated for BP, I've seen 6/9, better than usual! I want to see Lion and Fences, but won't see Hacksaw Ridge on principle (gently caress YOU GIBSON YOU PIECE OF poo poo).
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Cacator posted:I saw an article saying Arrival was disqualified for some bullshit reason about its use of a classical piece that stupid audience members would think was part of the original score. That must've been the part where Louise was talking to General Shang in her flashforward to the reception. I admit, I'm "that guy" who recognizes most classical pieces (it was Dvorak's String Serenade mvmt 4); but even if stupid audience members thought it was original scoring, you'd think the Academy would've realized it was likely used with permission.
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