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why was hacksaw ridge nominated for best picture, this is a serious question
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Feb 16, 2017 17:58
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Samuel Clemens posted:It's incredibly gory, but in a respected enough genre to get away with it. It's hard to believe it comes from the same director that made Apocalypto. Movie is corny all around and (personal taste here) I can't stand Garfield's voice and his dumb looking giraffe neck. There, I said it. I know I know, they're marketing him as the new Shia, so here's to hoping his career goes the same way. I mean it's Gibson, I didn't go in expecting a Bergman movie but his stuff used to be way more watchable back in the day. Simple, visceral movies with a punch. Gore aside, this thing is a piece of slow melodramatic trash.
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Feb 16, 2017 18:20
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I think it's a stretch to call 12 years a slave or Selma great movies and there certainly were better oscar/oscar nomination contenders at the time, but sure they're both on another planet compared to Hacksaw Ridge.
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Feb 17, 2017 21:55
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:You fuckin nuts, boy. It felt like slavery horror porn to me. I like that the entertainment industry finally looked at slavery in the eye and didn't flinch but the movie overall was pretty dull and could've easily been 20 minutes shorter. 12 years a slave also seemed to look for shock factor really hard, which is perplexing because its source already had it in spades. I read Northup's book before the movie and iirc there were at least a couple of absolutely vicious scenes like a slave stabbed to death to prevent a rape and a naked woman whipped in public where either the movie greatly exaggerated the events or completely made them up. I would've really liked a little less torture and a little more narrative cohesion / character focus. Because the torture and absolute evil message is totally driven home by 1/3 of the movie. The way a massive truck is driven through your home. Kawabata fucked around with this message at 06:00 on Feb 19, 2017 |
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Feb 19, 2017 05:57
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:So the movie was boring and dull but also too shocking, pornographic even? Bleh. Sorry they didn't sanitize the events of systematized human exploitation enough for ya! Oh, I knew you'd play the "they didn't sanitize it enough for you" card. But that wasn't the issue, because if you read my post (which doesn't look like you did, it just looks like you're annoyed because I don't like the movie you love) you'd remember that I read Northup's book before watching 12 Years a Slave. So yes, I expected all the evil and the brutality but what I didn't expect was the tone they chose to go for. The movie was dull (and it really didn't need to be, considering the excellent source material) because it felt like passion of the christ: slavery edition. This is not a "beautiful film" by any means and many critics, while unanimously praising the effort, did comment that the end result was somewhat uneven. Again I don't think it deserved all the awards it got. Amour was clearly the best movie of that year, to the point where they even gave it a rare double nomination (Best Foreign Language -winner - and Best Picture) to compensate, the same way Mad Max got 200 minor oscars to make us forget that Spotlight was bad. Though you could argue that Room was the best movie of last year and you'd probably be right. Now the 2013 Oscars weren't as controversial because no one had seen Amour and all the other nominees were inferior to 12 Years (just to name a couple, Zero Dark Thirty and Silver Linings Playbook -lol-), but my point still stands. I guess we strongly disagree! EDIT: the essay you linked is a good watch but obviously I don't agree with it either Kawabata fucked around with this message at 15:47 on Feb 19, 2017 |
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Feb 19, 2017 15:43
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Vegetable posted:Silver Linings Playbook lol! Spotlight bad! 12 Years A Slave dull! I didn't elaborate on Silver Linings Playbook or Spotlight because it seemed pretty clear at the time (in Silver Linings' case especially) that they weren't in the same league as the movies they were competing with. I did elaborate a bit on 12 Years because I don't think its tone quite worked. Amour was as difficult to watch as 12 Years on a more intimate level but it felt like a more cohesive work than what basically is a monotonous catalogue of brutality and torture. Which is an impressive feat considering Amour is a Haneke movie. I'm perfectly aware of the fact that my opinion on 12 Years is not the popular one and it's ok if you think it's dumb and wrong, but keep the MAGA jokes to yourself. Kawabata fucked around with this message at 16:38 on Feb 19, 2017 |
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Feb 19, 2017 16:34
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CRINDY posted:Zero Dark and Silver Linings were in the Argo year. 12 Years beat Her, Wolf of Wall St, Gravity and American Hustle. They were? My bad then! In that case yes, it probably still was the best movie that year. It annoys me even more that Amour lost to Argo though.
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