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Moonlight was the best film I saw this year. It probably won't win anything. The score to that movie is goddamn amazing.
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# ¿ Jan 25, 2017 08:32 |
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# ¿ May 14, 2024 11:35 |
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Vegetable posted:I liked it. It was engaging all the way through. That's what most of the folks thought too. Hardly groundbreaking stuff, but the Oscars hardly reward that kind of thing (how in the fuckbucket did Carol fail to be nominated for Best Picture or Best Directing last year?) This is exactly what I was thinking. Yeah, people snub those types of love stories unless the characters suffer or die. Shageletic posted:
Also Johan Johannsen.
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# ¿ Jan 25, 2017 16:36 |
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Coaaab posted:Is that a consistent stance to take with the stink coming off of Casey Affleck right now? BTW, I haven't seen Hacksaw either but only because Lonergan is more of my kind of filmmaker than Gibson. If I were to separate art from artist I'd say the average Affleck performance is really good while the average Gibson direction is a polished turd. But people can approach either with their own level of skepticism.
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# ¿ Jan 27, 2017 04:04 |
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ruddiger posted:What range has Casey Affleck showed other than "socially awkward creep"? Double burger...
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# ¿ Jan 27, 2017 04:49 |
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Arkane posted:Moonlight blew me away, thought it was the best movie of those nominated. But La La Land with 14 noms looks to have this on lockdown. The bittersweet lollipop movie that everyone needed after 2016, I guess. It'd be insane to overlook Moonlight, which is why that will happen.
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# ¿ Jan 29, 2017 02:01 |
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Arkane posted:It'll win 2 I think, Supporting Actor and Screenplay. I dunno, I think Fences performing well at SAG might spell good things for Moonlight. Also, the ensemble went to wildcard Hidden Figures, which I don't see having as much traction at the Oscars but who knows Both Manchester and La-la Land were nearly shut out, save for Emma Stone.
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# ¿ Jan 31, 2017 00:18 |
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china bot posted:Has anyone else seen Elle? It was my favorite last year, and Isabelle Huppert deserves the nomination, but I have no expectation of her winning I saw it, and I didn't like or dislike it. It just sort of made me feel nothing and I'm not exactly sure why.
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# ¿ Feb 3, 2017 21:27 |
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twerking on the railroad posted:Just saw "Fences." I'm not sure if this is quite fair but my feeling when watching it was that it was the black Glengarry Glen Ross. It's basically a vehicle for Denzel Washington and Viola Davis to go on extended monologues and just basically act everyone else's faces off. I mean, sure, but I guess you could say similar things about Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf and nobody would be complaining about the results.
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# ¿ Feb 4, 2017 11:15 |
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Raxivace posted:I haven't seen Fences yet but Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf? did try and add some cinematic touches to the material. Like that great tracking shot that ends with the fakeout where George grabs a rifle, where we think he's about to murder Martha but it only turns out to be a toy isn't in Albee's original play at all. I'll agree with you there, Haskel Wexler on DP brings some nice visuals that really compliment the material without overwhelming it. edit; vvvvvvvv I hear ya BeanpolePeckerwood fucked around with this message at 17:10 on Feb 4, 2017 |
# ¿ Feb 4, 2017 11:26 |
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Arkane posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwmEWNXIsNk In the Mood for Love and Days of Being Wild were on my mind almost the whole movie. WKW is a deity
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# ¿ Feb 15, 2017 20:34 |
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Steve Yun posted:Think back over the years about all the films that got nominated because of the underlying story being respectable and not because of any exceptional artistry in the crafting of the film. Hidden Figures, Imitation Game, Selma, etc. Selma is a pretty drat accurate account of that moment in time.
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# ¿ Feb 17, 2017 12:06 |
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:I didn't think Selma was that great either. It's a solid B+ movie. Great cinematography though. Selma is good, it doesn't lack artistic merit at all. But yeah, 12 Years a Slave is on another level. Just another level. Kawabata posted:I think it's a stretch to call 12 years a slave or Selma great movies and there certainly were better oscar/oscar nomination contenders at the time, but sure they're both on another planet compared to Hacksaw Ridge. You fuckin nuts, boy.
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# ¿ Feb 18, 2017 08:24 |
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Raxivace posted:Nebraska was my personal favorite of that year. Except that it's pretty much the only high profile film about American slavery that indicts Christianity as a central component of the success of said institution, which basically represents a major change in historical interpretation, at least where cinema is concerned. I like how David Simon put it: "...it marks the first time in history that our entertainment industry, albeit with international creative input, has managed to stare directly at slavery and maintain that gaze"
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# ¿ Feb 18, 2017 09:14 |
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Raxivace posted:Eh, there was Spielberg's Amistad too though I don't think its as good as 12YAS. What's your point?
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# ¿ Feb 18, 2017 10:33 |
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Raxivace posted:That it also addressed religion as part of what allowed slavery to spread, though like I said I don't think it did it as well as 12YAS. I guess it's been a while since I saw it, but yeah...I don't remember that. Oh well, wasn't trying to be a dick
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# ¿ Feb 18, 2017 10:46 |
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Vegetable posted:Alicia Vikander is real good in it She's pretty much good in everything. That same year she slam-dunked in Ex Machina.
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# ¿ Feb 18, 2017 21:15 |
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Kawabata posted:It felt like slavery horror porn to me. I like that the entertainment industry finally looked at slavery in the eye and didn't flinch but the movie overall was pretty dull and could've easily been 20 minutes shorter.12 years a slave also seemed to look for shock factor really hard, which is perplexing because its source already had it in spades. I read Northup's book before the movie and iirc there were at least a couple of absolutely vicious scenes like a slave stabbed to death to prevent a rape and a naked woman whipped in public where either the movie greatly exaggerated the events or completely made them up. So the movie was boring and dull but also too shocking, pornographic even? Bleh. Sorry they didn't sanitize the events of systematized human exploitation enough for ya! Yeah, I couldn't disagree with you more. In fact, part of what made 12years so powerful for me is that such a beautiful film could be made about such an ugly subject, and that its message about human behavior and compromised morality could be so nuanced. But hey, I'll humor you. Here is a decent film essay about the violence depicted in the film and how it is strategically shot to demonstrate brutality in the aftermath of the act rather than during...how, in general, there is very little resolution, release, or catharsis for the audience in the end...you know, release (violent, sexual, or otherwise) being one particular feature that helps us critically define something as pornographic or not. The same standard could also be applied to a film as extreme as Irreversible for example, a movie that Ebert notably defended as not pornographic due to its reverse narrative structure which prevented the potential of audience release through violence. Anyways.
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# ¿ Feb 19, 2017 08:03 |
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Kawabata posted:Oh, I knew you'd play the "they didn't sanitize it enough for you" card. But that wasn't the issue, because if you read my post (which doesn't look like you did, it just looks like you're annoyed because I don't like the movie you love) you'd remember that I read Northup's book before watching 12 Years a Slave. I did read your post. I just disagreed with it, which is what I said. 12 Years A Slave only won 3 awards, duder, it didn't clean up in any way. One of those was for adapted screenplay, so there are definitely people who disagree with you about its particular relevance to the book, and I'm sure you understand that a film can adapt material in different ways while still respecting the core message, right? We can agree to disagree, but yeah, I think your 'tone' argument is absolutely fallacious.
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# ¿ Feb 19, 2017 17:27 |
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Pirate Jet posted:Spotlight isn't a bad movie but I feel like there's something really strange about it winning Best Picture and nothing else. Best Picture should not be understood as Best Film, but more like Best Record at the Grammys, a producer's credit.
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# ¿ Feb 19, 2017 20:38 |
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Detective Dog Dick posted:Spotlight was a hell of a lot better than The Revenant and The Martian at any rate. I'm a bit surprised to say that I agree. edit; though I'd still take The Insider over spotlight.
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# ¿ Feb 21, 2017 21:58 |
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Vegetable posted:Wish Jackie got more love. It's a genuinely different, hypnotic biopic. So gorgeous and well scored. The Oscars don't reward non-convention, of course, but it generally hasn't gotten much love across the awards circuit. Fox Searchlight bet big on Birth of a Nation instead which ended up having baggage in the PR sphere.
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# ¿ Feb 22, 2017 08:34 |
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Having watched a bunch this year, my top ten for '16: 1. Moonlight 2. 20th Century Women 3. I Am Not Your Negro 4. Paterson 5. Silence 6. Everybody Wants Some 7. The Fits 8. Arrival 9. The Lure 10. Manchester By The Sea Honorable: Fences, Hail, Caesar!, The Lobster, Toni Erdmann,
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# ¿ Feb 25, 2017 02:37 |
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dont even fink about it posted:After finally watching Zero Dark Thirty I cannot believe it got nominated for anything. Setting aside the torture issue, it's loving boring. In addition to being an incredibly obvious piece of agitprop.
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# ¿ Feb 26, 2017 21:48 |
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Yeah La La Land is going to clean up tonight and it's going to suck. Well, we do live in a world where Mad Max Fury Road was nominated 10 times and won 6, so....
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# ¿ Feb 27, 2017 01:29 |
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Josh Lyman posted:All technical awards though. It doesn't even matter.
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# ¿ Feb 27, 2017 01:40 |
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DC Murderverse posted:She's so amazing. Like, one day she decided that she was gonna start acting and now she's in 22% of the movies nominated for Best Picture. God she was good in Moonlight.
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# ¿ Feb 27, 2017 01:41 |
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Criminal Minded posted:Yeah, I've been a fan of her music for years so the fact that she's taking off as an actress is loving awesome. Yes to this post.
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# ¿ Feb 27, 2017 01:53 |
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Shneak posted:Holy poo poo that was her? What's her name's girl.
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# ¿ Feb 27, 2017 02:19 |
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Best moment was when Moonlight deservedly won against all odds. Second best moment was Ryan Gosling's sister's amazing boobs.
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# ¿ Feb 28, 2017 11:21 |
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