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BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

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It'll be a new tradition!

Christmas with the Niefcos

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Also count me in for a follow up series. I was against the idea initially but the characters are all so well written and defined that I think aging them up in a modern context could be funny. Enough time has elapsed since the show ended to come up with some really original new and fresh ideas. Hell, several posters in this thread are coming up with good ones and posting scripts that I easily read in the characters' voices.

I'm down.

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BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

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I dunno I like almost all of his stuff and Silicon Valley was loving great. That's the most recent thing I've seen from him though.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

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Cowslips Warren posted:

Dale would not dare say the N word because Dale doesn't think of people in terms of race, only in terms of Government Agents and Others and Those Against Them.

Dale and Hank's Dad would both sneer and hate Trump because he is a literal rich ivory tower who hates the military. His steaks are great and his hair is amazing, but for Dale, he is Too In the various conspiracies to be trusted, and dad would sneer at him being from New York and failing military school.

I'd bet Hank might have a word about that.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

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Cowslips Warren posted:

Peggy would probably be a Trumper, but not Dale, because Dale doesn't like anyone in the government.

Also Dale would consider Qanon amateurs

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

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I think they'd have to age them up accordingly. At least I'd hope they would.

The Moon Monster posted:

Probably due to seeing the various people in their lives who started off in a similar place as the KotH characters go through that transformation over the last 10 years or so. "Obsession" seems like a pretty overwrought way of putting it, people are just joking around.

Yeah, personally, I just think enough time has passed to view these funny and interesting characters in a whole new modern context. I can imagine some fertile comedic material being mined from digging around in that. I'm always on board for more funny wherever it comes from.

Hell, several goons in this thread have even posted some scripts that made me laugh out loud and read perfectly in the characters' voices.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

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I just like most of what Mike Judge puts out and can see real potential in aging these characters up in a modern context. Judge has always been pretty good at finding ways to take the piss out of and lampoon people regardless of their political leanings. I can picture old Hank, Dale, Bill, Boomhauer, Kahn and John Redcorn dealing with a whole set of issues alongside young adults like Bobby, Kahn Jr and Joseph. Lord knows our current political and social situations have changed a lot and aren't anymore stable, especially in loving Texas.

I also wanna see GH as a young teenager. He's a blank slate and could have turned into pretty much anything, especially with his dad being dead, and the writers could look at nature over nurture to see what he grew into. Does he turn out like Cotten, Bobby, Hank or his mom?

I dunno, I've heard far worse ideas for a reboot. We're not talking Saved By The Bell: The College Years levels of writing here I wouldn't think. I doubt Judge would look at it seriously if he didn't have some good ideas, and even though I thought it was a mistake not to age up Beavis and Butthead even that was pretty funny.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

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BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

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Milo and POTUS posted:

Boomhauer put on some weight I see

Dang ole..."boo", man.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

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haljordan posted:

Nah it was when she took out a cash advance to buy a roller derby team

I liked when she got into the MLM and drove Bill into Dreaming Big servitude.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

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In a reboot, Peggy would be making mad bank on Only Fans selling feet pictures and old socks.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

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Crab Dad posted:

Oh he knew.

Just trying to take all the fun out of it.

Nah. John Redcorn's gay and he and Dale have been friends for years.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

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Bismack Billabongo posted:

What would hanks drag name be?

That was a rhetorical question to be clear. The answer is Sweet Lady Propane

Nora Arethra

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

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ilmucche posted:

I think my favourite boomhauer is still the fireman episode, after that when he calls to report the megalo mart has exploded

Is that the one where he explains everything that happened in perfect english and everyone else is mumbling and speaking gibberish?

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

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In the reboot, Peggy should be cleaning up with her OnlyFans foot fetish website.

She can even call it Sugarfoots.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

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BaldDwarfOnPCP posted:

Louis Farrakhan?

Brother Mouzone

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

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I picture Bobby as something along the lines of a YouTube or TikTok guy chasing likes, subscribes and influencer status while he posts his videos of open mic comedy sets and magic acts.

Dale Rusty Shackleford has his own podcast that explores the real conspiracies of how people like Alex Jones and Qanon are truly the actual secret government plants and crisis actors; conspiracy theorizing the conspiracy theorists. He gets the COVID vax because he's come full circle and "not getting it is exactly what they want you to do"

Joseph probably coaches HS football or something and has a girlfriend who wants to get married and nags him a lot.

Peggy has an OnlyFans website and earns money from her big feet, cutting out the middle man, and doesn't consider it porn since she just records foot videos while she reads or watches TV. She's tried a few other internet ideas like "Peg-E-Bay" and "PeggyBook" to compete online. With minimal success.

Buck Strickland is dead or retired and Hank is still assistant manager, annoyed by the amount of Google messages, daily spreadsheets, online ordering and this "new fangled mumbo jumbo" that's "gettin in the way of doing business face to face like a man, I tell you what". I don't know who Strickland left in charge or if he had a failson but some "computer guy" is running the business wrong.

I picture Boomhauer being married to a very articulate and extremely well spoken wife with a kid who talks exactly like him but Boomhauer finds him incomprehensible and worries that he's on the spectrum since he can't speak correctly. "Dang ole goo goo ga ga, dad, look here this dang ole firetruck , talkin bout dang ole 9th birthday present from meemaw, dad, goes all 'wwoooo-wooooo'" and lights up" and his dad just stares at him.

Luanne and Lucky moved to a luxurious double wide in Florida and live off Lucky's settlement and disability income, living high on the redneck hog and rarely calling the Hills. They stay in touch with emails, FB and texts that Hank finds "not quite right" and rarely reads because he "gets enough of that computer nonsense at work. Whatever happened to good ole fashion phone call anyways?"

I could see Bill getting suckered into Bitcoin and being relentlessly catfished and scammed on dating websites that all drain his bank account. He's forced to sell his house and now lives in an old man apartment but still drives over to hang out in the alley and say "yup" with disturbing regularity.

GH is a blank slate that you could do anything with really.

John Redcorn remains Dale's closest gay friend and is putting together a Big Mountain Fudgecake Reunion tour.

Bout all I got.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

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Big fan of the Manager Babies

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

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Nigmaetcetera posted:

That sounds horrible, I hope it gets stuck in development hell and is quietly forgotten.

Why? What's wrong with giving it a shot?

I can't think of a popular animated show where the characters had a chance to realistically age and Mike Judge has a pretty solid hit to miss ratio through his career. I usually like his stuff and doubt he'd do it if he didn't think there were some solid ideas to build on and mine for material. Maybe I'm wrong and it's just the lure of a big paycheck for an old guy past his prime but I fail to see the harm if Judge and the writers have some decent ideas on how to pull it off in a way that's humorous. The characters are totally established and well written already so just project them out, switch up the context and write good some jokes. Use GH and a few new characters that are his friends to introduce something new.

Doesn't seem like some comedic brass ring that's hopelessly out of reach to me and like, at worse, it would just be mediocre. It's not a lame attempt at a spin off like Boomhauer: Texas Ranger. A lot has changed since the show's heyday but a lot of the politics that drove it and provided context are, if anything, more magnified now and dropping these people into our modern bullshit driven society seems like it has some potential to be funny, in spite of some lovely ideas that were posted here (including mine).

Trickiest thing to me is how to handle the dead actors (Murphy and Petty) in a way that doesn't seem cheap or stupid.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

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Mantis42 posted:

This will work best if they at no point realize that they time travelled. Like they show up to school as if nothing happened, they don't realize that Stewart is now middle aged, don't understand why MTV doesn't play music anymore, etc.

Looking at a flat screen and being all "that's not a TV. Hehhe..uhhhh..hehe. Where's the REAL TV, dumbass?"And then..."whoa. check it out, Beavis" and being transfixed before they go on a Netflix binge, discover PS5 graphics and internet porn.

I don't need to see them having space adventures or anything but I think if they write it correctly, B&B could actually make it where they kind of fit in into modern stupidity and current pop culture tropes to where they can make friends.

But they still won't score.

Thanks to whoever posted the 5 hour MTV B&B critique montage too

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

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SilvergunSuperman posted:

I feel like things haven't been great for Joe Jack

Same. I think he did a bad, bad thing.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

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I don't think the show ever really had a noticeable dip in quality tbh. When something runs that long, some of it is bound to be hit or miss but, taken as a whole, I think it was fantastic. In a long running series, there's always that reach where they try to explore a tertiary character, add another layer of depth to an established one, bring in some guest stars, do some gimmick episodes but I wouldn't put any of it into Jump the Shark territory.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

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I'm excited about a reboot in spite of a lot of the terrible ideas for it being posted here. I can't recall an animated show that actually aged up the characters aside from fantasy flash forward episodes. I think the modern context of all the poo poo happening right now suits the characters really well and I trust Mike Judge to find the right ways to pull it off.

Almost all of the characters on the show are very well written already so, to me, finding new poo poo for them to do in a society and culture that's totally off the rails right now shouldn't be real hard to not make it suck. Only thing that's really changed is the context

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

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Raskolnikov2089 posted:

"Hank doesn't want me, he wants younger, equally pretty, women"

I don't want to imagine a King of the Hill without that Peggy Hill in it. She's perfection.

I've seriously never understood the Peggy Hill hate. She is my favorite animated character by a long shot. Everything she says is gold.

Agreed. Peggy is a great character and no more hosed up or annoying than any of the other ones. I don't "like her" but I like her character a lot. You're not meant to sympathize with her.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

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The Propane Maniacs!

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

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Speaking of Luanne and Lucky, has Judge said how he's going to deal with not having Beverly Mitchell Brittany Murphy and Tom Petty? Is he gonna write them out, cast new voice actors or have them be dead I wonder?

edit: brain fart

BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 00:15 on Apr 19, 2022

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

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BaldDwarfOnPCP posted:

Brittany Murphy?


Yeah, fixed. Not sure what crawled into my head there with that gently caress up.

I just wonder the most tasteful way to handle their actor's characters might be. I'd hate to see them recast (or killed) and in my head I picture them running of to Florida or some poo poo but I know Luanne would want to stay in touch so I guess maybe they could do emails and text messages from Gainesville and an occasional one way phone conversation scene?

BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 00:22 on Apr 19, 2022

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

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Yesterday I found several episodes for free on Daily Motion, including Propaniacs, FWIW and if anyone is interested. They're mirrored though

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I found the Metalife episode. Peggy getting mixed up in an MLM and Bill becoming her sales slave are so on point for the characters.

BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 15:56 on Apr 19, 2022

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

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Nooner posted:

Hope everyone is watching out for any signs of marijuana poisoning today

I am inducing vomiting!

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

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The Beavis and Butthead movie trailer is up and it looks pretty bad.

https://gizmodo.com/beavis-and-butt-head-do-the-universe-first-trailer-mike-1849010377

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

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Rupert Buttermilk posted:

Literally 4 posts up.

Oh well. My bad. I beg your pardon.

B&B in space/time travel seems like the last thing the series would need to sustain itself and looks like a terrible reach. "_____________ in Space" is practically a cliche and a meme all to itself.

Just put them in a modern context several years later with no real explanation for it. Instead of watching MTV on an old CRT TV, just have them be on their phones, Xbox or laptops watching reality shows and YT on a smart TV but in the same run down apartment. Maybe age them up 3-5 years and have them driving a lovely car.

Or, hell, just set it in 2022 and explore the idea of them being 33 now, age them normally or whatever, but still acting the same way.

Along similar lines, I hope the KotH reboot or whatever it is just ages the main characters up and has them deal with all the regular bullshit of modern life as it stands now, same as it was, while introducing teenage Good Hank and poo poo like that. Just give me a 63 year old crew still standing in the alley slurping Alamo Beer but with new problems.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

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AV Club gave the Beavis and Butthead movie high marks

https://www.avclub.com/beavis-and-butt-head-do-the-universe-aims-low-scores-h-1849090871

Making Beavis and Butt-head walking anachronisms like the lead family in The Brady Bunch Movie may sound like a cheap gimmick, but it’s essential to any new audience’s ability to connect with them. In director/creator Mike Judge’s high school days, and throughout the ‘90s, the stupid teens who wore heavy metal T-shirts every day, blew up animals with fireworks, laughed at every sex joke, and “never scored” would likely end up forgotten, in dead-end jobs in some small town. Nowadays, though, those types are on 8chan planning school shootings and sharing Nazi memes. Recall MTV’s conscious attempts after the show’s first season to turn the doofus duo into the sole victims of their own stupidity, after they were initially depicted as genuinely malicious delinquents who smoked, mugged Mexican kids for fireworks, and inhaled stove gas for kicks. Having them unable to use the Internet likewise side-steps a whole lot of contemporary problems.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

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you broke my grill posted:

I didn't like Do the Universe. I just didn't think it was very funny. Also I don't think they did enough with them being in the future they should have done more with Beavis and Butthead fish out of water in 2022 but it seems like they spent too much time just getting them into a scenario where they'd be there. And when they were there there were the smartphone shenanigan's and the white privilege bit (which I thought was done well but then they showed the best part of the movie in the trailer so the rest was kind of a let down). A lot of it could have just been them being chased by the government in car chases in any era. I would have liked to see more time and jokes devoted specifically to them being out of their normal time if that was gonna be the premise. But most importantly at the end of the day I just didn't get as many laughs as I normally do from B&B

I went in with really high hopes maybe I was setting myself up for letdown.

I'll probably see it eventually but I have low expectations for it.

Not sure we really even needed it but seems like the best approach would either to be age them up a bit or just keep them the same age and stick them in a modern context with no explanation given. I don't know. I've seen a couple of funny clips but I'm nt real excited about it.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

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you broke my grill posted:

yeah I wonder if the whole thing was just a way to set up upcoming new episodes where they will be in the current year but still be teenagers

Instead of MTV and music videos they're watching tik tok and youtube stuff on their phones while playing Fortnite GTA5 or Call of Duty.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

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namlosh posted:


Then episode two just skewers right wing culture with the sex-Ed episode. More cotton, “worried about bein a slut”, and the awesome twist of Bobby being the only Kid in the sex-Ed class at the end.

"It's called the double standard, Bobby, don't knock it. We got the long end of the stick on that one."

And god drat I saw 45 new posts in a slow thread and thought Mike Judge died.

Speaking of Judge, I'm not hearing any kind of buzz or word of mouth for the new BnB movie. I don't even think there's a CD thread for it. I guess it tanked? I looked and it made 5x its budget so I guess not

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

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A MIRACLE posted:

I know, crazy that he sat in front of the tv for 12 hours straight. I would never do that

Clearly you have not mastered the art of edging

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

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Her feet are small.

BiggerBoat
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you broke my grill posted:

what I love about this joke is that with the audio you can't really hear what Peggy is saying clearly but she's trying to claim she had a no-hitter when she didn't according to the offiicial score and it's a joke you would only care about if you know how baseball scoring works and listened hard enough

Propane Maniacs!

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

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Another Bill posted:

If Hank was good at football, his ankle wouldn't have snapped and Arlen would have gone to state!!

Should have taken a salt tablet

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

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funniest part about the football flashbacks to me is Boomhower calling audibles.

You'd expect the entire team to just totally run off in random directions and poo poo.

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BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

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Mr. Lobe posted:

The primary joke of Dale is predicated on the idea that conspiracy mongers are generally harmless, and I don't know if that's a premise for a joke that works so well these days, especially if they go Q anon with him. I suppose they'll have to continue to have it so that his deal is still far too niche to be a threat.

The secondary joke of Dale is that for all his conspiracy theories he can't see what's right in front of his face, in terms of his family. That still has legs.

Back when Dale was first written, the internet was just getting started as a mainstream thing and "conspiracy dudes" were largely of the black helicopter/JFK/UFO variety and mostly laughed at as harmless idiots, not elected to congress and hosting highly rated news channels.

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