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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Republicans may be petty and spiteful, but their politics aren't garbage. Because they won, and they won bigly. ours is the superior ideology, clearly
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Epic High Five posted:Trump, General Election: "I'm going to bring coal back bigly it's going to be great this region will be wonderful again" I want to laugh, but I can't as I am a republican senator
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Epic High Five posted:VA maybe oh my god all this shop talk during my free time *sigh* carry on: 
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Republicans may be petty and spiteful, but their politics aren't garbage. Because they won, and they won bigly. our politics are not garbage OP! this is a right wing shill, so don't respond
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well...you're a stupid bitch if you thought we cared about the trans community have you heard about our policies? clearly, and evidently, not my constituency fears you, the democratic constituency applauds you please figure out how this works, for my sake i find this personally disturbing, you really should know who (false, ineffective, or otherwise) your friends are
Conch Shell Corp posted:That limo had a wife and kids Lastgirl posted:"you're the animals, you're the animals" I insist as I continue to spew vitriolic, divisive and shallow rhetoric
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Office Pig posted:http://www.newsheads.in/world/news/russia-criticises-us-president-donald-trump-us-nuclear-supremacy-defence/article/3020.html  welp!
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Epic High Five posted:Exactly. We have no allies on the right right now, nor will we for the near future if ever again. Every one of them are jackals that need a kicking, and their supporters and everybody with a positive view of them or Trump deserve the same. do you enjoy alex jones as well? his rhetoric has a pure robust child like quality, if the child in question was a crackhead child soldier with mein kampf in one hand and moonshine in the other anyway, i apologize for the tangent, back to the point, no, my party, and its constituents, will not help you leftists, stop eating each other, and learn some manner of party loyalty or garbage like this will most certainly continue to occur
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breaklaw posted:Why are people saying the GOP likes Trump? They like a Republican appointing SCOTUS justices and nothing more. Trump is just as much of a disgrace to the Republican Party as he is to the country. the thread nihilists prefer cool and edgy hyperbole, don't mind them
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Discendo Vox posted:The first is a CPAC straw poll. The second doesn't crosstab or define its likely party questions, meaning it's got people who are identifying as non-Republican who are, in fact, Republicans.
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Epic High Five posted:Lmao if you actually believe a supermajority of Republicans aren't 100% on board with Trump well, i never said anyone should look to the right to carry anyone out of this mess, this election proved that this is a zero sum game, and looking to the right is a useless tactic i just found the recent Fox News polls to be an interesting shift from the norm
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Feb 27, 2017 21:45
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Gringostar posted:kill all coal miners trump is already working on that by fouling up their drinking water
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Duscat posted:this was a while back, but no so it's doable
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Azathoth posted:Yeah, I think you're right that nationalist/isolationist/nativist Republicans are here to stay, as they're essentially the evolution of Pat Buchanan's culture warriors and George W. Bush's compassionate conservatives, but who instead of orienting around social issues are now coming together on economic issues after being poo poo on economically for so long. the business wing will continue to use id pol, and racial dog whistling to tamp down efforts to realign around economic issues note what's happening now, for instance, the muslim ban has been pushed through twice, yet renegotiation of nafta, and the various tariffs that have been proposed haven't been visited once dodd frank has already been watered down, and trump has already become pro pharma though
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Epic High Five posted:Oh I thought it was a lot more automatic than that they live in slavery, this is a sad fact, that the mail order bride apparatus amounts to long term sex trafficking
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Duscat posted:yup, and this dude's wife should probably start the naturalization process if she hasn't yet, because the redcaps PROBABLY won't start throwing immigrant citizens in the camps until they've at least run out of noncitizens yep  it's sad the extremes humanity forces people to resort to 
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The Brown Menace posted:i dont quite know what to make of boomers tbh if you ever get laid off they will have amnesia regarding the difference again, never forget that, their ignorance is in part willful
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wizard on a water slide posted:the strangest part of this like a lot of boomer stuff is how internally inconsistent it is we are not a generation that respected the utility of social sciences, aside from economics, of course
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HorseRenoir posted:https://twitter.com/Chris_arnade/status/839981897900003328 i don't care, no one noticed when i, a republican senator refused to vote for him, death is certain and we will all know this soon enough Lindsey O. Graham has issued a correction as of 07:23 on Mar 10, 2017 |
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Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:"boomers are constantly complaining about millennials" -- every millennial ever, complaining about boomers (i.e. their parents) gen x, the forgotten children
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Epic High Five posted:You're pro-weed? Well guess what fucko so is your grandpa in all probability, it's just that when given the choice they prioritized other things the same way white Millennials just did on the same issue and will do forever too true
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Asimo posted:Yeah it's not really a big secret that's there's heavy institutional inertia towards keeping traditional ideas and practices that really only begins to get broken once all the old scientists/teachers/doctors/politicans/etc. start dying off and their younger colleagues with different ideas finally get a bigger say in things. since time immemorial, this has been the case, it's just i didn't expect my generation to gently caress up this much first there has got to be a historical rubric for a generation of fail sons to leave something besides a smoldering pit for their progeny, i just have yet to find it
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Shao821 posted:I love how young liberals get their first conservative president and they immediately lose their minds tell 'em
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got any sevens posted:Nader isn't why Gore lost and third parties aren't why hildog lost either. Dems should try doing things for leftists if they want their votes. jesus would have won
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Epic High Five posted:I'd argue that American Jesus did win 
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Epic High Five posted:However real Jesus would be detained at an airport and sent by night to a forced labor camp lmao
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Lord of Pie posted:I have some relatives who made it a point to go get their own insurance instead of going through Obamacare because they didn't want to touch anything tainted my a Kenyan socialist Muslim or something whatever. They got turbofucked by their deductibles for years and kept going on about how bad Obamacare was. my party is quite good at engendering trust for no apparent reason perhaps it's demagoguery? no, couldn't be that
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Lord of Pie posted:They got Lee Atwater'd hard that guy was a mad man, and also one of the greatest republican strategists i've encountered dems need that, a bit of demagoguery, imo "we will raise the minimum wage" should be "we will give you money" "we will train you for new jobs in energy efficient sectors" should be "you will get your jobs back" "we will improve obamacare" should be "you will get free healthcare because, 
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The Brown Menace posted:"We did it, we destroyed all the boomers!"
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Best Giraffe posted:the moral arc of the universe is long, but it bends towards deeply ironic justice 
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Freaking Crumbum posted:i'd really like to see someone like the zodiac killer or santorum or Huckabee or any of the other hardcore moral-majority fuckers come out and give a glowing endorsement of the AHCA because "It will literally help hundreds of thousands of devout Christian believers reach their eternal reward that much sooner. And really, isn't that the most awesome gift that an executive can give to his constituents?" i await this angle coming from some of my colleagues during the primary 
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zegermans posted:He's voting Trump in 2020 because Hannity will tell him the future of America is at stake.  you are getting it!
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Business Gorillas posted:Kinda funny that every attempt to gently caress the browns that these people voted for is getting strangled in the courts but the bill that will destroy their lives is slowly creeping towards them 
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we are all losers in trump's america, unless you were already a winner beforehand 
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uber_stoat posted:yeah. I've heard all kinds of different reasons provided for why Trump got their vote and many of them bear no relation to anything Trump ever even said he was going to do. Trump's the avatar of these people's dreams and fantasies. how do people so stupid exist? they do though, and they always have the real question, is why do their votes matter more? *i've been blastin' and laughin' so long, that, even my momma thinks that my mind is gone*  
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Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:yeah, but otoh, his campaign was consistent on exactly three issues: exactly and my constituency is where? south carolina it's not happening; my sister likes nice things, and i like power; try again when i retire
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check out this 9th dimensional chess, a friendly reminder btw, never vote for me as i am still an enemy to you, the left, but check this out: Lindsey Graham: We Should Just Let Obamacare Collapse If We Can't Get A Solid Fix Through Reconciliation Matt Vespa | March 17, 2017 Lindsey Graham: We Should Just Let Obamacare Collapse If We Can't Get A Solid Fix Through Reconciliation Well, the House GOP has taken a political consequences be damned position. The House will be voting on the American Health Care Act, the GOP replacement to Obamacare, next Thursday—though both Speaker Paul Ryan and President Trump admitted that changes would need to be made to ensure passage. The president has said he’s 100 percent behind this legislation, but you should read Guy’s deep dive into this development. The Obamacare replacement offered by congressional Republicans has received a brutal reception. Democrats are uniformly against it, while the GOP is split. The lackluster CBO score prompted moderate GOP lawmakers to flee—and Sen. Tom Cotton (R-AR) warned that this bill doesn’t have the votes to pass the Senate. There are some Republican senators who refuse to support a bill if it touches the current funding formula for Medicaid expansion. And the things that conservatives want Republicans to do regarding health care reform, allowing insurance companies to compete across state lines, tort reform, cannot be included in the reconciliation process. Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) spoke with radio host Hugh Hewitt on Wednesday about his issues with the bill, namely that the three-phase approach, in which the GOP will make into law the areas they can’t touch with reconciliation, wouldn’t work. He noted that for provisions, like health insurance companies being able to compete across state lines, would need to get 60 votes to pass the Senate. Democrats aren’t going to help the GOP on health care, so the two succeeding phases are bound to fail. Graham said that we should just let the law collapse if the GOP couldn't get a solid bill using reconciliation, which drew disagreement from Hewitt. For conservatives, the fact that the GOP is haggling over Medicaid is frustrating since the expansion provision in Obamacare is one of the most expensive in the law. Graham also admitted that he could be miscalculating the political consequences for this wait and die strategy. Hugh Hewitt: Now today, the AP is reporting, and I’ll read the quote. House Republicans are working on a companion to their bill replacing Obamacare. It’s a legislative second act that would ease cross-state sale of health insurance and limit jury awards for pain and suffering in malpractice lawsuits, closed quote. That’s actually fiction. That’s propaganda, because that takes 60 votes, and you’re not going to get it. I am curious if you agree with me that the House Republicans do not understand reconciliation, and that they can use tax policy to dis-incentivize bad behavior, and that it will pass muster with the parliamentarian? Lindsey Graham: Yeah, I think this is the key point. I think this is what Senator Cotton’s trying to say. Reconciliation is a limited venue to make changes. It has boundaries, right? so if you have a three-step approach, reconciliation being the first step, and buying across state lines doesn’t fit into reconciliation, then any package coming from the House after reconciliation must get 60 votes. There’s no way the Democratic Party is going to vote for a concept that opens up health care to more competition and outside government control. That’s what this whole drat thing’s about to begin with, is that they believe that health care should be provided by the government. We believe you should have more choices. And I don’t see eight of them helping us get our, you know, get this thing done. That’s just not going to happen. […] Hewitt: The vast majority of Republicans believe that people transitioning from Medicaid need help. I have a four square box – poor, not poor, young, not young, and I think the tax credits ought to go to the poor not young in overwhelming proportion and followed by the poor young, but mostly to the poor people to help them transition from Medicaid so we don’t create a poverty trap. Graham: Right, right. Hewitt: Rand Paul’s not going to buy that. I understand it. That’s fine. He’s down. Susan Collins isn’t going to buy any of this. She’s down. So we’ve got to get everybody else, right? Graham: Good luck. Hewitt: Good luck. We’ve got to get everybody else. Is that doable, Senator Graham, because this is the once in a lifetime… Graham: In its current form, no. And okay, it’s a once in a lifetime opportunity for every Republican to own a bad bill. It’s a once in a lifetime opportunity for every Republican to replace Obamacare with something better. Here’s what I would suggest. If you don’t believe it’s better than Obamacare over the long haul, if you think you’re going to own it for the rest of your life, President Trump, it will be called Trumpcare, don’t buy it, because everybody says you have to. Here’s what I would prefer he do. If he can’t get us in a good spot where we all feel comfortable, we’ve improved Obamacare dramatically, which we told people we would, let it collapse. There were five health care providers in South Carolina exchange. We’re down to one. Hewitt: No, no, no. No, no no. Graham: Let it collapse. Hewitt: We’re going to get killed. Graham: No, we won’t. Hewitt : We’ll get killed if we don’t repeal the medical device tax, the individual mandate. We’re going to get slaughtered. Graham: Well, you will, and here’s how you will do it. Here’s what you’re going to get killed. If you pass a bill that is using the same process the Democrats did, you ignore every warning sign and you go through anyway, and you take CBO numbers and you just excuse everything the CBO said, if at the end of the day the 62 year old person in Greenville, South Carolina doesn’t get help from this bill, if their premiums don’t go down, that if Medicaid continues to explode and expand, then what good have you done? Here’s what I would suggest to the President. Keep working hard. I want to work with you. I want to get to yes. But if it doesn’t work, if we can’t get there by ourselves, let it collapse. It is collapsing. Obamacare is a nightmare for the country. Democrats are not going to lift a finger to help President Trump. I would do collapse and replace if you can’t get a good, solid fix to Obamacare using reconciliation. Hewitt: I think you’re misjudging the political consequences of that strategy dramatically. Graham: Could be. Could be. - Townhall letting it collapse means leaving it the hell alone 
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Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:but i was led to believe that you never refuse a dixie cretin seaman you know i always love my dixie seamen sugar! meet me in my chambers, and i might just show you what i mean... 
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