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Internet Explorer posted:This is really awesome. We recently started discussing software and infrastructure at our DSA meeting. Apparently it is a requirement from DSA national that a chapter has the ability to rapidly reach out to members (via text, call, etc) for flash gatherings like airport protests. We formed a small committee to start setting that up, but our chapter is just getting started and there is such an obvious need for infrastructure in general. well you could set up a model system and then encourage other chapters to follow I know that there are dsa chapters on action network https://actionnetwork.org/groups/south-sound-dsa https://actionnetwork.org/events/dsa-fort-worth-monthly-meeting-huddle?source=widget maybe it is a good place to migrate to because it connects you with other like minded groups
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Dreddout posted:Seconded, I thought PP was on the up and up PP is decent, but, like any large organization, they are far more concerned with lining up donors, throwing parties, and maintaining their own existence than they are cultivating activists or making real strides with reproductive justice. See: any time you see one of those "Actually, only a very small percentage of the services PP provides are abortion", "Good women have abortions, too". They're doing very little lobbying-wise to defend abortion, as you can see from the massive blows repro justice has been hit with over the past decade or so. There also tends to be a huge problem with transphobia organizationally. Everyone in abortion works with PP, because they're basically the only name in town, but most abortion related nonprofits will have endless bitching to do about them if you can get a couple beers in them. If you want to get involved in it or donate your money and time would make a much bigger and more tangible benefit going to a local abortion fund, or the National Network of Abortion Funds. If you go to NNAF's website and click "Need an abortion" it'll give a list of groups in your area that can make very, very, very good use of your time and money.
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Ruzihm posted:is this what a friendly leftcom looks like?????  i think the dsa can have a positive movement if it also advocates for economic reform in favor of a more robust worker coop sector state bonds and municipal investment into credit unions ban on mutual holding companies legislation to encourage mutual insurance unemployment payouts for worker coops sponsorship of an employee ownership institute like in Vermont http://www.veoc.org/coops and more programs like the Evergreen Coops get a model coop law that allows workers 1st in line position as creditors with an option to purchase their business easily from their former bosses http://chorusfoundation.org/a-new-era-for-workers-a-chicago-factory-goes-cooperative/ that can inspire people imo
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wizard on a water slide posted:also quickie poll: how far are you guys from your nearest chapters and how far do you usually go to attend meetings and events? I've never done any political organizing before, but am considering getting some friends and acquaintances and starting our own chapter bc the nearest one is about two hours away and seems pretty inactive/disorganized Seconding this question, I'd like to join the DSA but the closest location is more than an hour away down some busy freeways (My state seems to have only 2 active chapters even though it's in the center of the Rust Belt). I don't know how many members are close enough to make a breakaway chapter, and while I know some people who may be interested I don't know if I could recruit 5 new members to make a newchapter/group quota and also keep it alive on my lonesome. Also, this may be colored by this thread, but it seems like the DSA (at least since 2016) is a lot more radical in its common member ideologies than the other members of the Socialist International. Can anyone c/d?
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Ace of Baes posted:Let me know if you're not on the list and wanna be, or are and don't wanna be, etc. I'm in TX
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so the florida guys here are gonna crash the trump rally and chant "boring" whenever he speaks right???
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Dreddout posted:Seconded, I thought PP was on the up and up I work at PP and can talk about it if you want.
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Top City Homo posted:with Internet communism you take what you need friend This is relevant to my interests. I'll have to keep this stuff in mind, didn't know it was possible/legal!
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TwoQuestions posted:This is relevant to my interests. I'll have to keep this stuff in mind, didn't know it was possible/legal! iirc, Cesar Chavez literally started his movement by first making a credit union for migrant farmers so he'd have a way to see them all on the regular as well as a safe place for their money and for sending funds to their families. Martin Eakes of Self Help Credit Union is one of the most progressive Americans out there banking-wise and he's done more damage to payday loans than any other human I can think of.
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Top City Homo posted:with Internet communism you take what you need friend Just quoting this. I am a huge advocate for entryism to empower political pressure by having people on the inside. Historically speaking, the only ways to achieve lasting success are either through a major entryist push... or via the creation of alternate institutions that can operate outside the system and apply pressure to it like those mentioned here. If you can't reform the government, you replace it. (And the two strategies actually support each other rather effectively, so it's not like you have to choose one or the other)
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Also add the discord to the OP maybe? https://discord.gg/CuVNusq
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GlyphGryph posted:Also add the discord to the OP maybe? I didnt put it in the OP because it's been rapidly growing and I figured it would cut down on trolls/infiltrators if it took asking for a link/lurking/digging through the thread.
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Ruzihm posted:let me in, I'm ruzihm#0421 Who's the other ruzihm I wonder Ace of Baes posted:I didnt put it in the OP because it's been rapidly growing and I figured it would cut down on trolls/infiltrators if it took asking for a link/lurking/digging through the thread. No one reading this thread is the sort of troll/infiltrator we are worried about. Also we have a flawless extreme vetting process now.
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mugrim posted:I'm in TX HiHo ChiRho posted:Put me down for CT bump_fn posted:good list of indoctrination videos Added to OP. GlyphGryph posted:Also add the discord to the OP maybe? Also added to the OP, I was on mobile when I first responded to this post and thought it was in the Chapo thread lol.
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First meeting in Austin TX tonight! I'm very excited.
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Yossarian-22 posted:I went to a DSA anti-valentines bar thing and it was v cool and v good! Really high turnout for a Tuesday night I won the dinner voucher 
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Top City Homo posted:nerd bullshit This was dope, and I really do hope we can put together a publishable packet with links and checklists and poo poo to help chapters get organized and secure, quickly. Condiv posted:Does the DSA have any flyers or graphics I can use for recruitment? PM me. I have a cool MLK one we made for our first branch meeting, but I don't want to share out my google drive info to the ether. Top City Homo posted:also keep in mind that the most effective route of mass organizations is first and foremost a grassroots community that discusses the issues that they care about and then tries to change them in an organized way outside of electoral politics We're already looking into becoming a partner org to a credit union over here that takes our NYC ID cards as identification (which are open to undocumented persons) so that DSA members can join. And my dream is that the NYC chapter (and obviously national could do this broadly) has the funds and organization in a year or two to start a Cooperative Development working group to provide guidance and seed money to potential co-ops. Even aside from helping people own their own employment, just finding union or co-op vendors can be tough, just for things that DSA needs, so I think that a co-op print shop in the city somewhere could be a win-win.
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Alright, I've officially joined in CA. Now to figure out what we're working on.
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Top City Homo posted:with Internet communism you take what you need friend This post is a good post and has me feeling not horrible.
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Top City Homo posted:1.) Set up your own functioning social network/website Does anyone have any examples of sites that use this for this purpose? I'm thinking of building a site for my county and want to see some examples of how this looks when its set up. nevermind I found the demo on their site that for some reason I didn't see Doorknob Slobber has issued a correction as of 22:20 on Feb 16, 2017 |
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Doorknob Slobber posted:Does anyone have any examples of sites that use this for this purpose? I'm thinking of building a site for my county and want to see some examples of how this looks when its set up. That link is to their developer info. Their main site has a link to an online interactive demo - https://www.oxwall.com/demo As far as ActionNetwork goes, I heard back from them and there's basically no limit to a "small group." It's just what features you need. The "paid" version has a $10/month minimum charge, which comes with 10k emails. After that it is $1/1k emails. So, ah... ActionNetwork seems like a no-brainer to me. I think that doing highly customized or technical stuff for local chapters is a mistake. By the nature of being volunteer, the turnover is generally going to be higher and supportability should be a huge factor in choosing a solution.
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unbutthurtable posted:This was dope, and I really do hope we can put together a publishable packet with links and checklists and poo poo to help chapters get organized and secure, quickly. your first stop should be the The Working World Ever since the Jobs Act crowdfunding has made coop funding much easier
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blue squares posted:First meeting in Austin TX tonight! I'm very excited. In advance of accidentally meeting the idiot drinking himself half-dead at the bar: "hello."
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Woof Blitzer posted:I work at PP and can talk about it if you want. I don't need specifics but just curious if that post above was basically true, and if you have an opinion on why PP is losing political ground to bible humpers? Are they just bigger bribers? If you can't match their bribes, how else might you try to regain influence?
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Top City Homo posted:your first stop should be the The Working World Where do you keep finding this good poo poo?
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TwoQuestions posted:Where do you keep finding this good poo poo? I   anyways, just keep in mind that the worker coop sector in the US is in its infancy but it only takes a generation to get a critical mass You can find some more cool stuff here http://www.locavesting.com
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You'll be happy to know this all but confirms that our attendance has remained solid since our first meeting post election.
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got any sevens posted:I don't need specifics but just curious if that post above was basically true, and if you have an opinion on why PP is losing political ground to bible humpers? Are they just bigger bribers? If you can't match their bribes, how else might you try to regain influence? Really it's more on dems as a whole since when republicans have majorities in almost every state it's hard to get anything done no matter the amount of money, but the establishment attitude that lost the election is definitely the predominant way of thinking here. Like we filed a couple lawsuits that will certainly win and open up maybe four more clinics, but since there's no friendly legislators it probably won't matter because they will just come up with new laws to close them down again. Woof Blitzer has issued a correction as of 04:23 on Feb 17, 2017 |
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Woof Blitzer posted:Really it's more on dems as a whole since when republicans have majorities in almost every state it's hard to get anything done no matter the amount of money, but the establishment attitude that lost the election is definitely the predominant way of thinking here. Like we filed a couple lawsuits that will certainly win and open up maybe four more clinics, but since there's no friendly legislators it probably won't matter because they will just come up with new laws to close them down again. My experience with PP is that they're similar to HRC wrt aligning with establishment Dems, my experience is pretty limited to elections tho, do you think they're succeptable to entryism/infiltration, it seems like PP would line up with socialist feminism ideologically.
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Okay, I've officially submitted my stuff to start a local DSA chapter mostly because gently caress commuting, and now I get to start recruiting.
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Ace of Baes posted:My experience with PP is that they're similar to HRC wrt aligning with establishment Dems, my experience is pretty limited to elections tho, do you think they're succeptable to entryism/infiltration, it seems like PP would line up with socialist feminism ideologically. Nope! You would have to replace the VPs and the entire board. For every affiliate in the country. And the national org.
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Time to learn about the nonprofit industrial complex, chums! Turns out when you have a service-provision model that's not directly tied to a radical political ideology you end up chasing after money from philanthropists so you can do the job the government is supposed to be doing, and maybe you do some good but mostly you end up compromised!
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Woof Blitzer posted:Nope! You would have to replace the VPs and the entire board. For every affiliate in the country. And the national org. I figured, it's OK though because PP will become redundant after Socialism creates UHC for all.
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  Proud of who we are, of what we build, of our neighbourhoods, our children, our communities, our cultures, our faith and our institutions. Dedicated to sharing power, sharing responsibility, sharing the workload and sharing the rewards. Stronger than we could ever be alone, we will work together, side by side, shoulder to shoulder, to build a better future for all of us. The Sons and Daughters of Liberty: For Common Sense and the Common Good, We join in Common Cause Context: Glyph and I thought it was odd as we were reading Enlightenment writers that nobody is really writing up a Common Sense for the modern century. We decided in the absence of that we would start up an affiliate organization called the SaDoL. It's still in the rough preliminary stages but the main idea of the group is to: 1. Provide an opportunity for collaboration across chapters within a region 2. Create and distribute socialist literature framing it with themes from the American Revolution and Enlightenment figures 3. Support and promote organizations and institutions within our local communities. We want to be community builders and seen as a positive force within them.
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