fermun posted:

the layoff resolution just passed, so the 45 day period of negotiation with the union on what the layoffs will look like starts now. the target of 12 that was proposed is based on that being the expected number to get the national org to be solvent through the end of 2025, and those 12 include both union staff and managers for the union staff. coincidentally, the last time the national org was in a healthy financial state was the start of 2020, with about the same number of members and revenue as right now and 20 national staff members, as opposed to 32 now

Grilled Beef posted:

the PR department has a staff of 4. The only time I ever see DSA in the news is after a spectacular fuckup or Twitter fight. so what the gently caress are those 4 people doing?

aw frig aw dang it posted:

support your local dsa grifters and respect the hustle

tristeham posted:

get that bag hitlerites

tristeham posted:

Grilled Beef posted:

the PR department has a staff of 4. The only time I ever see DSA in the news is after a spectacular fuckup or Twitter fight. so what the gently caress are those 4 people doing?

fermun posted:

it's been very funny how hard the dsa staff union is fighting for the jobs of the non-union managerial staff in this layoff negotiation process. they're not union members! how do you have no class consciousness as an ostensibly socialist union staff member of a socialist organization? and the union proposals so far have been to reduce the catering budget at the bi-annual convention (which is usually set by the venue and is not enough to save any jobs) and to ask for members to do phone banks to other members asking them to increase their monthly dues so that dsa can afford to keep all of the staff, including their managers.

that's technically the "communications" department, 3 of whom are solely for within dsa communication and one of whom spends less than 5 hours a week advising chapters on PR

SgtMongoose posted:

$50 - Mailers
$200 - Catering
$1500 - Newspaper
$950 - Annual Convention
$13,450,569 - National Staff Pay
$460 - Research

Someone help me budget, my political movement is dying.

fermun posted:

it's been very funny how hard the dsa staff union is fighting for the jobs of the non-union managerial staff in this layoff negotiation process. they're not union members! how do you have no class consciousness as an ostensibly socialist union staff member of a socialist organization? and the union proposals so far have been to reduce the catering budget at the bi-annual convention (which is usually set by the venue and is not enough to save any jobs) and to ask for members to do phone banks to other members asking them to increase their monthly dues so that dsa can afford to keep all of the staff, including their managers.

that's technically the "communications" department, 3 of whom are solely for within dsa communication and one of whom spends less than 5 hours a week advising chapters on PR

Weka posted:

The nazi party was ostensibly socialist

fermun posted:

it's been very funny how hard the dsa staff union is fighting for the jobs of the non-union managerial staff in this layoff negotiation process. they're not union members! how do you have no class consciousness as an ostensibly socialist union staff member of a socialist organization? and the union proposals so far have been to reduce the catering budget at the bi-annual convention (which is usually set by the venue and is not enough to save any jobs) and to ask for members to do phone banks to other members asking them to increase their monthly dues so that dsa can afford to keep all of the staff, including their managers.

that's technically the "communications" department, 3 of whom are solely for within dsa communication and one of whom spends less than 5 hours a week advising chapters on PR

jarofpiss posted:

i dont think you know what youre talking about here

Golden Bee posted:

do we still have the Maori third worlder?

Ytlaya posted:

Can you help explain the situation then

jarofpiss posted:

this npc is so incompetent it’s shocking (or intentional sabotage).

khazar sansculotte posted:

Do you think it's this NPC? Seems like the driving factor is membership dropped over the last few years and there's not enough dues to pay as many people as there were a few years ago.

Or are you just talking about the messy internet drama?

jarofpiss posted:

unserious

Second Hand Meat Mouth posted:

membership dropped because of how dumb national was acting in more than one domain

khazar sansculotte posted:

I understand that, but "this NPC" has only been in office like 8 months or whatever. I wasn't sure if OP was saying "this NPC" is to blame for membership dropping (seems unlikely), for the internet drama (plausible, I guess, I don't know how they are or aren't contributing to it), or maybe meant to say "the NPC," or what.

tristeham posted:

unserious hitlerites...

Eminent DNS posted:

with the way the caucuses work, I don't think it's fair to consider each NPC in a vacuum. They're necessarily continuations of previous ones, with maybe a few wildcard independents

khazar sansculotte posted:

Do you think it's this NPC? Seems like the driving factor is membership dropped over the last few years and there's not enough dues to pay as many people as there were a few years ago.

Or are you just talking about the messy internet drama?

Eminent DNS posted:

with the way the caucuses work, I don't think it's fair to consider each NPC in a vacuum. They're necessarily continuations of previous ones, with maybe a few wildcard independents

Like, I just saw an email (I swear it's impossible to get anyone in DSA to stop emailing you) from someone on the previous NPC talking about some campaign to fight back against the layoff of staff and they were absolutely one of the people that contributed to the problems

people on the previous NPCs assuming membership would always remain at its peak, carelessly hiring staffers and agreeing to every travel stipend ever proposed, and then kicking the can down the road about the grievance officer contractor really is fundamentally unserious behavior

khazar sansculotte posted:

Sure, but that just brings us back to the original question: what is notable about "this NPC" with respect to staff layoffs, etc., as opposed to any previous one(s)? Genuinely curious. I haven't kept up with any NPC drama since Danny fetonte.

fermun posted:

The last time DSA had the current number of members was in January 2020 and had 20 staffers, now we have 32. The last two NPCs have been a majority from what are now the two caucuses that hired the 12 extra staffers, including hiring 3 people a month before the 2023 convention. Those same two caucuses have proposed cutting sharing dues to local chapters and holding permanent weekly phonebanking calls to existing members asking them to increase their dues in order to make sure we can have 0 staff layoffs, because that fundraising is going to 100% be successful in raising the 1.5 million dollars a year that was needed.

It has been accused by the NPC minority that the current NPC majority want DSA to be a member-led organization instead of a staff-led organization so want staff layoffs to fund member-led initiatives instead of our very successful staff-led initiatives like the DSA 100k campaign, or phonebanking Dems to legalize abortion nationwide, or phonebanking Dems to pass the PRO act, or phonebanking Dems to end support for Gaza genocide

DaysBefore posted:

Dick Suckers Alliance lol. The NPC is the Nice Penis Club

DaysBefore posted:

Dick Suckers Alliance lol. The NPC is the Nice Penis Club

fermun posted:

very successful staff-led initiatives like the DSA 100k campaign, or phonebanking Dems to legalize abortion nationwide, or phonebanking Dems to pass the PRO act, or phonebanking Dems to end support for Gaza genocide