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Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
I'm the Miller to Venom's Snake.

Florida, center of the hellswamp.

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Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Milo also wrote a hit piece on the DSA chapter related activities that me and Venom Snake are in.

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Not just Milo though, a lot of right wingers. Libertarians are writing articles in defense of us lol

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
https://milo.yiannopoulos.net/2017/02/socialist-student-club-promote-fight-club-campus-advocate-violence-exclude-republicans/



http://www.campusreform.org/?ID=8741


I can't find the libertarian one. I'm phone posting so no quotes

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
I've gotten 2 more people to say they're interested and are going to next meeting on Monday

I am Phi230 the Socialist Proselytizer

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Jack Gladney posted:

If those loving /pol/ pepes are quaking behind their computers, does that mean we're the jocks now?

the reason why they're nazis in the first place is because they're social outcasts. They've always been the nerds. Turns out nerds are also lovely people despite being victimized.

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

platzapS posted:

Orlando DSA executive committee recently asked the Knights for Socialism anti-fash boxing dude to withdraw from the race for Vice President. I'm voting for his opponent but I still think that's bullshit.

e: There was a big stink in part because they did it publicly on Facebook, speaking as the official DSA Orlando page.

omg more orlando DSA goons

anyway I wonder what happened, I saw the drama after it happened on FB but wondered why. KFS leader man seems pretty cool. Though he might be a tankie.

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
You know guys we can totally consume the Democrats. It will take time but its possible.

We have to start from the bottom, get socialists and progressives elected at the bottom level everywhere. Primary some fuckers everywhere. Contest everywhere.

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

platzapS posted:

The good poo poo starts at 8:38 ahahhaah

RADICAL ANTIFA INTERNATIONAL MEMBER

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Why are dems loving imbeciles

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
How do we get complacent liberal cowards to believe in true revolution again though.

They have no passion. No vision. No future.

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Doorknob Slobber posted:

we don't, we just ignore them. A lot of them won't ever be swayed from doing the bare minimum of effort. Thats why its important to take over the Ds, those complacent liberal cowards will just keep voting D until the day they die.

The DSA worries me in one regard. They claim, at least at my chapter, to not be a political party.

Some have taken this to mean a rejection of entryism or direct action.

I suggested organizing ourselves to go vote in members of our chapter into local positions. I was met with the mantra "we are not a political party"

What then is to be done? No change will occur unless we truly organize and mobilize.

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Somebody bust out the guillotine

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
We are socialists aren't we. Let's all make it.

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Ace of Baes posted:

MAJOR 🔑 ALERT: 1 IN 5 AMERICANS CANT AFFORD THE PRESCRIPTIONS WRITTEN BY THEIR DOCTORS

This is amazing. I really like this idea to get rappers and MCs on our side.

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

unbutthurtable posted:

I think Killer Mike got an award from the Atlanta DSA last year. He's down

He is but one MC.

Lil Yachty is on his way to becoming woke.

And DJ Khaled is dumb so we just gotta show him like one info graphic and he's down

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Internet Explorer posted:

Our local chapter is doing a book club and the first book is the ABCs of Socialism. Seems like a good place to start. It's a quick read.

Three Component Parts and Three Sources of Marxism - Lenin

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Woof Blitzer posted:

I'm going to bring this up next meeting fo sho

Leftist gun ownership group at my DSA is poppin

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Mythical Moderate posted:

I'll be attending my first DSA meeting tomorrow. Looking at the FB event details is making me leery this will be more liberal than socialist. :sigh:

The revolution is intersectional

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

HorseRenoir posted:

Lack of nonwhite support killed Bernie's campaign, so I'm not surprised that the DSA is trying to stress racial intersectionality in order to have a successful socialist movement

Yeah but that was clinton bullshit tho

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

an actual dog posted:

DSA should be more normie, imo. Like not changing policy or anything but toning down the "comrade" and memes.

Why not just be centrist dems then

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
All we have to do is make socialism cool again, which is what Chapo and memes do.

If we walk on eggshells about our beliefs we are no different than the democrat pusses

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Business Gorillas posted:

At the same time I can't see a better way to permanently turn someone off from the cause by having their first impression being talked down to for not being serious enough, getting bogged down in jargon, or watching a Bolshevik/menshevik slapfight at their first meeting

If they come to a DSA meeting without the understanding that it is a left organization then why are they showing up

people susceptible to radicalization show up, and then you ease them into the left.

No Hill shill or liberal coward is coming to DSA meetings in good faith if at all

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
if we dilute our beliefs and ideas to cater to people who can just as easily be converted to believe in the holy doctrine of Marx then why dilute it in the first place. Here's your quick reminder that we cannot convert liberals or centrists without them already being disillusioned with liberalism or centrism in the first place. We are never gonna convert Sally Albright or whoever the gently caress

whats next, we aren't gonna teach Marx or Lenin in the reading groups?

Gonna drop anti-capitalism next?

Yeah DSA are just socdems but compromising on your beliefs will just make you a poo poo dem in the end



Like you're assuming people are stupid. We had our chapter's Political Officer teach the fundamentals of Marxism, including the basics and background of both Marxism and capitalism, in like 30 minutes in simple and easy terms.

If you think people are stupid babies to be coddled not only will that dilute our message but turn people off harder than the strawman you build

Phi230 has issued a correction as of 21:41 on Mar 15, 2017

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Jack Gladney posted:

The most recent DSA Facebook post is getting some lovely comments from men who don't want to read about feminism. I don't know that I have the rhetorical skills to right that ship, but it seems like a much worse problem than fighting over memes.

Although there are tankie memes getting posted that are bad bad bad. It's the first time I have cringed at any DSA thing.

https://www.facebook.com/demsocialists/posts/1208673349231479

If there are anti-feminists then they don't belong in a socialist organization and should be purged ASAP

and there's nothing wrong with tankie memes they get the anti-fascist blood pumping

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Internet Explorer posted:

Are you off your meds or something?

lol no just dont wanna see the DSA collapse because of bad things

I mean I already see in the DSA some bad things, like not really doing anything besides meeting every once in a while, like my chapter.

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Business Gorillas posted:

i mean you're obviously passionate about it, why not channel that anger about the right things not being done and take it upon yourself to start a marxist reading group?

Because there already exists one, and its of an ok size relative to the chapter. And I tried proposing an idea to form an elections workgroup to figure out who to primary and where, maybe even have some of us run in local elections but was shouted down under the "we are not a party" mantra.

I've tried reaching out on FB about attending protests but only a few people ever show up so I think actually organizing anything outside of meetings is a no-go.

My DSA chapter seems to be a nexus of people who already are apart of other groups who simply do things that those other groups do rather than organizing anything with DSA affiliation.

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Internet Explorer posted:

Okay. In that case please reread the previous posts on the topic and then read your post.

My DSA made a pretty admirable effort to recruit disillusioned dems, pretty great turnout. But guess what, after several months of not doing anything people lost interest. Not even social events. So this is what I mean, being careful and on eggshells just makes people bored. Not the ideology.

In the end a DSA chapter is just a social group. Gotta do poo poo together to stay together.

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Internet Explorer posted:

And how does this tie into toning down the "comrade" and dank memes for public facing things like your DSA Twitter account / Facebook / website?

Let alone your comment of "like you are assuming people are stupid."

Because nobody really is dumb enough to be turned off by joking use of comrade. Or socialist memes. They're jokes, people get it.

You know maybe some people take it too far but it seems like complete nonsense to walk on eggshells for no reason. People are easily receptive to anti-capitalism if they're not sociopaths, you don't need to dance around it. I mean all it took was a 5 minute explanation of wage slavery w/ historical context and several people I know were then on board with the DSA during that meeting.

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Internet Explorer posted:

Oh cool, so my anecdotal evidence is just made up then. Thanks for clarifying.

And I'm glad you've figured out the one secret to make people "easily receptive to anti-capitalism" in the Western world. You should probably write a book or something.

dude whats your problem talk to me

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

think of all the normies you're losing :ohdear:

We ARE the normies now

Join PSL

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
For future reference how precisely does Neoliberalism hijack feminism and antiracism.

Like I know it does, and I know tge end result, but by what processes and methods

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Use of force to intimidate Trumpenproles is effective, as they cowards. You need not even obscure your identity, they will flee at even cursory attempts at confrontation. That's what we do at our events.

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Goons will run the world

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

zegermans posted:

awfully politicist of you

lol why are you even allowed in the dsa

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Bulgogi Hoagie posted:

haha woah the tankies are coming from inside the thread

hmm yes perhaps the capitalist lackeys will indeed try to stop you from spreading socialism if you post about destroying the US govt in public

Thats not even what a tankie is you bootlicking NEOLIBERAL

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Bulgogi Hoagie posted:

yeah ok i don't think the evil imperial world leader is lifting a finger to contribute to the fall of maduro but if you have to see an evil capitalist conspiracy everywhere :shrug:

why are you even here

gently caress off

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
you're also wrong and a retard

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
I think somebody in this thread labelled all MLs as tankie

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Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
i think the labels trots, stalinists, MLs, socdem are artificial dividers

I think the true label is whehter or not u were leftist before nov. 8

if you were lefty before nov 8 youre a tankie, after youre a posaidist. B ing

Bong

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