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Jun 1, 2005





Thank you so much for starting this thread. I am going to my first DSA meeting on Thursday. :3:

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Jun 1, 2005





Ace of Baes posted:

I will add everyone who posted to the OP when I get home tonight, glad to see so many DSA goons!

Apparently I may be running into you at the CO DSA meeting on Thursday. Quick question, to show up to a meeting you have to be a dues paying member, correct? If so, I'd like to sort that out beforehand.

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Jun 1, 2005





Thanks for the quick response. I definitely will, was just trying to figure out if I needed to sort that out for my wife and I before we went. Already have a bunch of reoccurring donations set up to progressive causes and the DSA is certainly welcome to their :10bux:

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Jun 1, 2005





Greatbacon posted:

There's currently work underway to formally organize a chapter in Denver.

If you facebook or twitter, you can follow them at https://www.facebook.com/denverdemsocialists/ and https://twitter.com/thedenverdsa respectively.

Oh man, this is super helpful. Making it to the Boulder meeting on Thursday was going to be a pain. Was going to be late no matter which way I sliced it. Excited for the Denver DSA! My wife and I will definitely be there on Saturday.

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Jun 1, 2005





Ace of Baes posted:

Went to a DSA meeting last night in Denver, pretty good turnout, was a social meet so got a little drunk with a bunch of socialists, good times.

Ah man, my wife and I were there. I thought you were strictly a Boulder man. I'm sure we ran into you. Also yeah, it was definitely a good time. Looking forward to the next meeting.

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Jun 1, 2005





jarofpiss posted:

we also got a young turks interview but no confirmation on which turk

This is awesome. Should be good exposure.

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Jun 1, 2005





I am now officially a DSA member. :patriot:

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Jun 1, 2005





MShadowy posted:

Don't have a facebook, but that's good to hear. Thank you; I'll try and get down there if I can.

You can also follow them on Twitter at @thedenverdsa. I had a good time at their social meeting this weekend too. Definitely come out if you can, it's a good feeling to start to get involved.

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Jun 1, 2005





FCKGW posted:

Followed, maybe someday ill have enough courage to make it to a meeting

Just go, no courage necessary. I'm about as antisocial as they get and it was a great experience.

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Jun 1, 2005





It's pretty straight forward. We're taking the party back for the working class. Next question?

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Jun 1, 2005





Ace are you at this DSA Denver meeting? I'm here with my wife, shirt with a tree-like thing on it.

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Jun 1, 2005





MShadowy posted:

Just got back from the Denver DSA meeting; glad I had a chance to participate. Got pretty hot in that little room with all the people attending, but that's fine.

Time to set aside some money for bus tickets and the like; I can't always be borrowing the family car.

I think I count 4 Goons in the Denver DSA (including my wife.) :getin: We should meet up next time.

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Jun 1, 2005





MShadowy posted:

I'd be glad to; and I guess as to a hint to my identity.

Ah, you and I talked. My wife and I were leaning against the wall across from you once we shuffled the rooms. Love your Starsector stuff! We'll have to catch up next time.

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Jun 1, 2005





Wow, and I thought Denver's was going quick. That must be awesome. You guys be sure to get poo poo done while the rest of us catch up.

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Jun 1, 2005





Top City Homo posted:

In honor of the budding revolution I would like to remind everyone that you can only build a mass organization with an actual infrastructure

I hope someone takes the 30 minutes it takes to get this documented and set up.

Cheers!

This is really awesome. We recently started discussing software and infrastructure at our DSA meeting. Apparently it is a requirement from DSA national that a chapter has the ability to rapidly reach out to members (via text, call, etc) for flash gatherings like airport protests. We formed a small committee to start setting that up, but our chapter is just getting started and there is such an obvious need for infrastructure in general.

Action Network seems to imply that it is free for "small groups," but I couldn't find the definition of that or pricing otherwise. To me it definitely seems like the way to go. It integrates with a bunch of stuff, including CallHub.

Also it looks like SalesForce has a 10 user license available for non-profits. I think DSA chapters are 501(c)(3), which sounds like it qualifies.

I will definitely post some guides once we start making more progress. I think having the right infrastructure in place is probably one of the most important things we can do. I'm actually surprised that DSA national does not have something in place for its chapters.

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Jun 1, 2005





Doorknob Slobber posted:

Does anyone have any examples of sites that use this for this purpose? I'm thinking of building a site for my county and want to see some examples of how this looks when its set up.

That link is to their developer info. Their main site has a link to an online interactive demo - https://www.oxwall.com/demo

As far as ActionNetwork goes, I heard back from them and there's basically no limit to a "small group." It's just what features you need. The "paid" version has a $10/month minimum charge, which comes with 10k emails. After that it is $1/1k emails. So, ah... ActionNetwork seems like a no-brainer to me.

I think that doing highly customized or technical stuff for local chapters is a mistake. By the nature of being volunteer, the turnover is generally going to be higher and supportability should be a huge factor in choosing a solution.

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Jun 1, 2005





If the DSA wasn't a political organization it would be a 501(c)(3) instead of a 501(c)(4) and would make things a whole lot easier. It is a 501(c)(4) and can therefore endorse candidates, making it a political organization.

[Edit: A charitable organization must stay out of political campaigns, while a social welfare organization can participate if campaigning is not the primary function.]

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Jun 1, 2005





Ruzihm posted:

New signup page for DSA chat: https://dsachat-register.herokuapp.com/

May want to add this to the OP

I thought they were switching to Rocketchat or something?

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Jun 1, 2005





Hmm... I wish they enforced some sort of standard for usernames. Like Real Name - Chapter or something.

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Jun 1, 2005





Our local chapter is doing a book club and the first book is the ABCs of Socialism. Seems like a good place to start. It's a quick read.

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Jun 1, 2005





On the whole tech side of things, I am starting the process of getting our chapter set up with Action Network and CallHub. Things still need to be officially decided and all that, but I will try to take decent notes to share once we really dive in.

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Jun 1, 2005





El Mero Mero posted:



Spotted this on the street in Moldova recently and thought of the good DSA folks in here

This is awesome, thanks for posting it!

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Jun 1, 2005







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Jun 1, 2005





logikv9 posted:

caught up

remember if it doesn't look good post itt for a fix. when i'm doing it it's all in bbcode so idk how it will look when actually applied

Sorry, I may be retarded but I don't see mine. Am I missing something? :(

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Jun 1, 2005





Oh, okay. I'm not retarded! YAY!

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Jun 1, 2005





The infrastructure thing is such a huge problem. :(

There's actually a sign-up here to volunteer with the National Tech Committee. Anyone has anything they could contribute should sign up.

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Jun 1, 2005





Is there any decent argument for doing your own web design and hosting your own poo poo instead of just using SquareSpace / Wix / Weebly?

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Jun 1, 2005





Our new chapter has an outreach committee that plans to do those things. I think it is a pretty common idea, and a pretty good one!

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Jun 1, 2005





Speaking of RocketChat, are they still really behind on invites? Had applied like 2 weeks before the swap to Slack, never got a response. Applied using the new RocketChat link about a week ago, no response. :(

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Jun 1, 2005





Anyone at this Denver DSA meeting?

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Jun 1, 2005





Is anyone else going crazy waiting for their Slack RocketChat invite? It's incredible to me that not only do you have to apply for it, as opposed to just being sent out to all members, but that you have to wait weeks to get an invite. So dumb. :(

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Jun 1, 2005





Fullhouse posted:

I got one in literally 5 minutes, it's supposed to be an automated process. Make sure you're using the email address you're registered with and try again

Well, apparently 3rd times a charm. Not sure how it didn't work before. I tried before they sent out their whole "moving to RocketChat" memo out, so maybe it wasn't quite ready yet. Now to find out how well it handles "family" memberships, because I am pretty sure my wife's email address wasn't asked for in the registration process.

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Jun 1, 2005





And thus the democratic in democratic socialism.

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Jun 1, 2005





... You think not posting the registration link to DSA RocketChat on SA is going to stop the FBI from infiltrating the DSA? :shepface:

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Jun 1, 2005





I mean, Goonfleet has a stricter vetting process. You can exactly be a big tent party and :commissar: spooks at the same time.

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Jun 1, 2005





Oh noes I found one dsausa.org

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Jun 1, 2005





GlyphGryph posted:

The specific security concern you are bringing up is not. You are literally trading massive amounts of utility for zero security.

"Security Through Obscurity" is the laughing stock of security methods even in scenarios where a) things are actually being secured and b) you aren't by your very nature open to the public at large.

If you want security, you talk about stuff that requires it on a secure channel (which isn't rocketchat) that isn't open to the public, doesn't have an automated approval process, and you only let in people you trust.

Preventing most of your membership from accessing their own communication tools by keeping them secret just seems... counterproductive. That would be like saying we need to avoid publishing times and locations of our open meetings for security reasons.

Thanks for taking the time to type this out. I'm too lazy.

unbutthurtable posted:

This is not a secret, goddamn. I'm just saying not to put it on a public forum.

But whatever, go ahead if this is that big a deal to you.

By the way, the approval process is not automatic. People handle the approvals.

I'm fairly sure the RockChat invites are automated now.

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Jun 1, 2005





A picture... of a screen... of a tweet?!?!

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Jun 1, 2005






Good lord. You notification bar is the worst thing about this. Are you running loving antivirus on your phone?

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Jun 1, 2005





HBar posted:

New chapter map from young harrington:


States that need to catch up: Arizona, Idaho, Wyoming, North Dakota, South Dakota, Louisiana, Alabama, Delaware, New Hampshire, ...Vermont?

Colorado is a bit of a clusterfuck right now, otherwise there would likely be a few more pins around Boulder. There's some kerfuffle about how DSA was formed in the state and bringing up other chapters besides Boulder involves some awkwardness.

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