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sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


WeAreTheRomans posted:

Youd give your forename first if you met someone though, QED.

Bond James Bond?

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sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

British children's animation is so bad it makes me want to cry. It's not like they don't have access to the good stuff being pumped out of the US, it's just that they look at it, think "that's nice" then go back to writing garbage.

Pretty much the only thing I'm happy for my daughter to watch right now is Puffin Rock and that's Irish. Modern kids TV is garbage.

Bring back Ivor the Engine (but don't make new episodes or anything, just show the old ones forever) and maybe the Herbs too.

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


forkboy84 posted:

Stewart Lee is still very funny. Liberals are capable of being politically wrong & yet still funny. Seems like the Libs would always have been a good fit for him really. But I bet Stewart Lee the character would like Jeremy Corbyn.

Jeremy Corbyn the cat, or Jeremy Corbyn the Labour leader?

e:f,b

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


TheHoodedClaw posted:

Yeah, gently caress off. On Friday I'm going to have to explain to people why the food bank can't give out the usual parcels, and why from next week we won't be able to give out any, because the last source of funding has dried up.

...Capitalism?

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


J_RBG posted:

Let's not get ahead of ourselves with crazy theories in this thread and claim there are Lib Dem supporters or something

The Lib Dems' Fight Back Won't Save You

A Good Article, thanks.

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


MikeCrotch posted:

The SNP have the advantage of being united towards what looks like an achievable goal right now, and winning surprise results in the GE due to the total collapse of every other party in Scotland after the Indyref. There are people like Mhairi Black in Labour right now but the same opportunities are just not there.

So once again it comes back to Labour lacking anything close to a coherent set of headline policies for people to latch on to. Simple but popular goals that can be shouted about over and over until they sink in and the voting public begin to think that perhaps there is an option beyond "more of this poo poo forever" or "this but with a smiley face" or "this but with a pint and a fag and no browns"

Better and cheaper public transport (nationalisation)
Sort the housing crisis (building projects, restrictions/taxes on BTL and second homes, increase council control)
Investment in infrastructure and utilities (control of energy/water/phone/internet suppliers, nationalisation again maybe because it just makes sense)
Save the NHS
Proper Living Wage
KillTax the rich bastards (who've been profiting off your misery) to pay for it all

Get someone dynamic in to front it all, watch those votes roll in.

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


Taear posted:

It's being said loads but the papers people read don't publish it and it never gets traction. How do you suppose that these policies (which are all actual ones as well) get publicised?

Write them in fifteen foot high letters on the side of Westminister Palace with the blood of Tories.

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


ronya posted:

yes, but - this is what the median voter wants to know - are you really going to do that*, or are you going to tax us more and then give it away to layabouts whilst pleading for the human rights of homegrown terrorists

* the bits they like. you may assume, as with other large infrastructure projects, that their attitude will change sharply once the plans are closer to being realised

Nationalising stuff that's profitable will bring in more money on it's own. As will most of the other things I listed. Fiscal multipliers are fancy words for things that people already know, so let's go "national credit card" style reductive arguments on it all.

"You gotta spend money to make money, common sense 'innit."

spectralent posted:

It would help if the media wasn't constantly lying that those two things were secretly the biggest part of the budget, and/or if people were sceptical enough to go "Hang on a minute, how do you live on £140 a week?" instead of immediately believing the government gives you a mansion and a mercedes if you're a layabout terrorist serial killer.

And yes, publish real figures on expenditure and spend some energy countering the narrative of lies rather than limply going along with it.

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


Fangz posted:

The problem is that these are all pretty old ideas. Nationalise, tax more, spend more on public services, raise minimum wage is what it boils down to. Labour proposing that thing isn't news. The new fad is for the Big Headline Idea. Labour basically need the equivalent of Build A Wall And Make Mexico Pay For It.

Build A Functional Society And Make Poshos Pay For It

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sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


We're going to hang the capitalists but they'll make us pay for the rope :(

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