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Baron Corbyn posted:Going back to the subject of Russian interference in British election, a swarm of Twitter bots usually used to pump out Russian propaganda have become rabidly anti-UKIP and pro-Corbyn for some reason. Given that Corbyn has been known to parrot the Kremlin line on certain foreign policy (particular RE: the nature of the Ukrainian revolution) they probably consider him a fellow traveller of sorts.
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Pissflaps posted:Is that the 'revolution' when Russia recently invaded parts of Ukraine, or some other one? As others have said, the original Kiev unrest that deposed Yanukovich. The annexation of the Crimea was not a revolution, and the Donetsk/Luhansk secession movements are more civil war than revolutionary war. Mind you, while Russia were definitely breaching international law with their bullshitly-denied involvement, I would hesitate to call it an invasion in the case of the D/L. Certainly the case for Crimea, though. JFairfax posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QAXmf5_EOs Being fair to Obama here, he was probably referring to the EU-brokered peace deal. What is suspicious is the ambassadorial call made during the same time period.
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Not So Fast posted:The boner Reddit has for I'mma stop you right there. Basically anything bad can go here and it'd be accurate. Reminder it's only half a decade since SA got 'em to take down sexualised pictures of underage teens.
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Feb 22, 2017 22:48
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Pissflaps posted:They're right. Would you consider it worth campaigning to put Blair back in charge of the Labour Party? You clearly have an opinion on the subject - is it worth putting in effort?
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Feb 23, 2017 02:06
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Seaside Loafer posted:Pissflaps you didn't have some magic genius knowing in advance Corbyn would be poo poo, you just spouted it from day one repeatedly. Well be fair, Corbyn has been 'not a Tory' from day one.
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Feb 23, 2017 02:35
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I was making a joke about pissflaps, not Corbyn.
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Feb 23, 2017 02:43
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I like how pissflaps completely dodged the question of defining 'working class' and then proceeds to make strawman definitions of who is working/middle class to accuse other people of defining it poorly.
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Feb 23, 2017 11:59
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Coohoolin posted:If you do this in Democracy 3 you get assassinated. Sounds like you have bad luck. I made Britain into a human-rights-bastion socialist democracy. Now Australia... that's a motherfucker. Raised corporation tax and got murked by a right-wing paramilitary.
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Feb 23, 2017 12:21
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ah, the quarterly prophet
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Meat Wagon posted:Just been to vote. The monster raving loony party's candidate is called The Incredible Flying Brick. I like some of his policies like: Make fishing a spectator sport by introducing piranha to the Trent & have a good breakfast of oatcakes and a delicious lunch of lobby. Still didn't vote for him though. Voted for the Other Loony Party (Loony Lefty Labour)>
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Feb 23, 2017 19:06
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What's telling about Oakeshot there is it doesn't mention what paper she's with as, as the latest Eye will tell ya, she's been dumped from the Daily Mail after turning out to be poo poo.
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Feb 23, 2017 23:40
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jBrereton posted:The only chance Labour has of coming back nationally in 2020 (keeping in mind they will very likely keep their seats today) is to come up with a (1) new policy that people it turns out think they really want. And that is so simple and direct that it's impossible to gently caress up the messaging of or look like they're picking over the bones of some Liberal or Tory idea. You never got around to a (2). But frankly if (1) was all that came to your mind then it's probably a blessing.
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Feb 24, 2017 03:03
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Fans posted:The leadership challenge will come from one of the MPs who voted against article 50 which actually rules out Dan Jarvis. It's probably gonna be a 2010 MP I think you'll find it'll be the enigmatic young leftist firebrand Owen 'The Pfizer Tiger' Smith.
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Feb 24, 2017 12:40
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Copeland was a lovely result in a perfect storm of reasons for it to go badly. A cynical person might think that Reed, who hated Corbyn, was banking on that.
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Pissflaps posted:Would those reasons be 'labor and Corbyn being deeply unpopular locally and nationally'? That is one reason, yes. Another is the Tories riding a wave of enthusiasm over the Brexit result. Another is them focusing their efforts on Stoke, etc. Corbyn's unpopularity is not the One Small Thing stopping Labour being an electoral behemoth.
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Feb 24, 2017 13:07
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Fangz posted:Corbynism: a political movement defined by being really hated by the PLP. Anti-'Corbynism': crossing fingers and whining about Corbyn when that doesn't work.
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Feb 25, 2017 00:55
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I like the mirroring of the UKIP vote by the Tory vote.
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Feb 25, 2017 00:57
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Pissflaps posted:In your world is anyone ever reasponsible for anything? -someone who ignores the freefall of Labour's support and finances under New Labour in government
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Feb 25, 2017 01:19
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Pissflaps posted:None of this is Corbyn's fault and only people as clever as you are able to understand this. I see. Let's be fair, being cleverer than you is a rather low bar. I mean, you think people are saying Corbyn is blameless when the only thing to suggest as such is a Have I Got News For You tweet. Which is not actually a poster in this thread, I feel the need to point out for you.
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Feb 25, 2017 01:30
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jBrereton posted:Has leaving the EU made Hungary less fascist yet This is the second time you've tried this dumbshit burn... have I made such a claim?
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Feb 25, 2017 02:34
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jBrereton posted:gently caress tess. I love your desperate attempt to make everything to do with the Brexit process about my particular vote. I don't pretend I didn't vote for Leave, so you can stop pretending like I try and distance myself from it.
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Feb 27, 2017 16:02
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mfcrocker posted:You did properly poo poo the bed with this one though I still firmly believe Britain is ultimately better off outside the European Union. This doesn't mean I buy into the hardline Eurosceptic view that the EU has been 'holding us back' or the Kipper xenophobia rejecting free movement of people. This means I'm freely able to say "May is being dumb" about this instant termination of freedom of movement - which as you say probably won't hold up in court.
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Feb 27, 2017 16:14
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mfcrocker posted:Sure, we're just saying that this is ignoring a wealth of evidence to the contrary. There's certainly been a fair level of cock-ups from the Tories that compound upon the unavoidable troubles innate to a process like this. I'm not denying these exist either, nor am I asking you to ignore them. I'm just not convinced, even with the gently caress-ups that have been happening, that this is a shitted bed... yet. You can generally trust the Tories to subvert expectations there though.
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Feb 27, 2017 16:21
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mfcrocker posted:The bed is shitted, the Tories are gleefully rolling around in it and you're going "well I wish they wouldn't roll around in it but it doesn't smell that bad" Well my actual view on it is "yeaaah, those pigs can be happy in that poo poo but when they ask for a hug later people are gonna notice the smell." TheRat posted:I honestly agree that in a perfect world Britain is probably better off outside the EU. But this is far from a perfect world, and the Tories are in charge of it. As such, currently, EU > UK. Which is why I considered abstaining. But then I thought "gently caress it, I've voted tactically all my life and I still got Tory governments"
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Feb 27, 2017 16:33
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Guavanaut posted:But I thought Corbyn only got elected leader by people who voted Lib-Dem in 2010? Sir Tim Nice-But-Lib-Dem strikes again!
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Feb 27, 2017 16:39
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OwlFancier posted:I mean, when someone's been hovering above your bed with cheeks spread going URGGGHGHGHG I'm not sure the prudent response is to say "well they haven't poo poo it yet, let's see where this goes..." At that point I request a house vote.
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Feb 27, 2017 16:48
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Pissflaps posted:Do you say URGGGHGHGHG when you're about to have a poo? Yes and when I hear the sound I know it's time to push him off my bed before things go south and smooshy.
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Feb 27, 2017 16:53
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Stupid if true... but the Lords are under no obligation to listen, are they?
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Cerv posted:what do you mean no obligation? the lords are under the same party whipping rules as the commons. Angela Smith (Labour leader in the Lords) sits in Corbyn's shadow cabinet Well yes quite. Lords are less likely to face repercussions for telling the whip to eat poo poo.
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