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Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Roses are red,
Violets are blue
Anime is my life
Brexit means anime

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Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

I don't think "oppose brexit" was a manifesto commitment tbh

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Pissflaps posted:

A commitment to EU membership was.

But specifically opposing brexit following a referendum was not.

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

I'm glad we now agree that labour mps were not elected on a platform of opposing brexit

Maybe trying to soften the inevitable is better than futile resistance

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

The Tories can force it through regardless, the aim is to get them to crumble and accept some of the amendments, which seem easy enough to swing some rebellion or concessions.

Remember that a fair number of Tories probably aren't in favour of a hard girthy brexit either.

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

If no amendments are accepted and they still push it through then im not voting Corbyn this summer!

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

If only Owen Smith had won. He's the man we need

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

I'm a single issue guy and I would never vote for the viagra salesman

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

On the other hand I want to worship every inch of his cock before he uses it as a battering ram to decimate the government

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

If only borbyn had a 60 meter cock

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

ANIME IS REAL

E: sorry that's a reflex I have, to oppose falsehoods

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010


I Dont know who Chris Leslie is but he's rammed in All The Amendments, so that parliament will get like 5 minutes to discuss each. Can't people who want to soften brexit coordinate these things?

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Private Speech posted:

If we're assuming that they aren't going to pass anyway, you could see it as a form of protest. You can then point back and say: "Look how the government rushed this bill, barely gave us any time to amend it when there's so much to discuss!"

That's the stupidest strategy since Corbyn announced he would never vote no to an unamended brexit

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Private Speech posted:

Going by his Twitter he's a very PLP Labour MP but he does some good stuff on refugees and consistently opposed Brexit despite voting with the whip. Maybe he just went all "gently caress it". Less charitably he wanted to hurt Corbyn with this somehow, I don't see much how though.

Maybe having multiple amendments is to sort of try and attract Labour mps to vote for his instead of Corbyns. That way they can attack corbs for not being able to convince mps to vote for his own amendments.

I just can't see any other reason for a Labour mp to chair all those amendments, some of which are watered down versions of the primary Labour amendments.

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

I'm more interested in finding out why people support the liberals in 2017.

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

I'd say that I like Labour's current leadership election system, but thinking retroactively the ban on the very newest members voting was the best idea.

Ideally only people who have been members more than 6 months should get a vote, and there shouldn't be any kind of pay to vote system.

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Pissflaps posted:

It's not disingenuous at all. I understand perfectly that Labour is going to lose many votes - potentially mine included - as a consequence of the path it has gone down.

As though you vote

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Pissflaps posted:

Why wouldn't I vote this doesn't make sense.

I don't believe you

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010


You seem more like a complainer than a voter

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Pissflaps posted:

I'd only consider voting Labour, though it's far from certain I would.

Is that because you don't vote?

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Guavanaut posted:

What's with the @s?
Is it just that they can't bring themselves to spell those terrible terrible words or is it some alt-right poo poo like the (((echoes)))?

People are convinced that the daily mail arbitrarily deletes comments based on a "word filter" (usually the comment either got reported or it got moved to best worst comments).

You'll see it mostly for things like the words Muslim, Islam, or immigrant where people write it in all sorts of ways to beat the "word filter"

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Guavanaut posted:

I'm going to choose to read them in the same way as that movement for gender inclusive Spanish, mi amig@s.

Keith Voz and his deproved lifestyles.

(Have they considered that maybe their comments including the words Muslim, Islam, or immigrant are being moved to the worst comments because they are the worst comments?)

Maybe you should remember that migrants are a scourge taking our homes, benefits, nhs and jobs

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Regarde Aduck posted:

There aren't really any right wing animes. That's the strange thing. Maybe Berserk because Guts is really loving manly and doesn't afraid of anything? Toho (their loving mascot) is about fairies and shrine maidens, what the gently caress does that have to do with the right?

Touhou has nothing to do with the right, please do not give this appropriation power.

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Gate does have the moment where the jsda beats a bunch of us special forces, who are identified as such because "no other country has black special forces".

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

jBrereton posted:

Cool. Good cool posts.

Anime is my life, much like being worthless is yours

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

BillBear posted:

What are the Japanese left and right even like?

The same as any other, broadly speaking.

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Darth Walrus posted:

I don't remember austerity gaining quite the same purchase in Japan as in other countries, though I could be mistaken on that one.


spectralent posted:

They had Abe preaching trickle-down, instead, which did much the same. Japanese youngin's are profoundly hosed.

Austerity not so much, but working practices....

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

TomViolence posted:

Christ alive, you lot, why do you still respond to Pissflaps?

People think they can convince a man without beliefs to change his mind

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

I'm not going to think ukip is done until nuttall loses

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Wheat Loaf posted:

You won't have to wait long for him to lose because Labour is almost certainly winning both of these by-elections, but what you need to keep in mind is that Nuttall losing will almost certainly going to be Farage's pretext for coming back and retaking the helm again.

I'm less worried about the guy who failed to get elected at least 8 times than I am about skip actually getting elected in leave areas.

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Did someone mention hype manga series: the world God only knows

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

forkboy84 posted:

No. Definitely not.

My mistake

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Mister Adequate posted:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-38852420

No don't worry we're only going to cut the fat, not leave people with mental illnesses criminally underserved so that an extra loving thousand of us die per year.

I will say that there has also been a change in the way that deaths are being recorded after the thing that came out a year or two ago about deaths being under reported. That DoH response is true and will be responsible for some of the increase

The query would be, what proportion of the unexpected deaths were avoidable?

Namtab fucked around with this message at 02:48 on Feb 6, 2017

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Mister Adequate posted:

I do expect that at least some of the 'additional' deaths do come from changes in reporting, and more accuracy and transparency is definitely good. I'm skeptical that it could increase by that proportion though. I hope I'm wrong and that there's no actual change in numbers, only better reporting.

Basically an unexpected death is pretty much what it says on the tin. There's a whole bunch of rules about what is and isn't unexpected, but a general rule of thumb is to take a given person and ask yourself "would I be surprised if this person dies soon". An unexpected death can have any cause, with the most common being sudden acute heart conditions (the bbcs wording is a bit sensationalist in this regard as it leaps straight to suicide and neglect).

The recent change in recording, at least for the trusts I've worked for, is that you now have to report all deaths of service users that occur within a year of discharge (that you have been made aware of). Obviously this will increase the number of deaths a trust has to report.

That's why I ask whether the statistics the BBC uses is the total number of "unexpected" deaths recorded by mh trusts, or the number of " unexpected avoidable" deaths that may be the result of a service failure

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Gorn Myson posted:

Whats the best anime video game

One of the many anime versions of the dynasty warriors games.

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Pissflaps posted:

Cool that this thread is focussing on anime and video games when the Speaker has literally just denounced Trump in the House of Commons.

As important as I am, I am not an entire thread.

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

I said that that was the aim, I never said that the Tories would go for it, you asinine oval office

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Pissflaps posted:

So it was a worthless strategy and when you attempted to justify it by going on about amendments you knew then that it was a loving stupid idea. I see.

The only worthless thing here is your "contributions"

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

There is not, nor has there ever been, a way of stopping brexit after the referendum gave that result.

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Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Pissflaps posted:

It seems that way in hindsight because an alternative was never offered.

There's still a way of stopping it now - you just don't think it's possible because the Tories can do what they like and Labour are helping them do it.

Go for it, how can we stop brexit

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